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    Default Is there a consensus on tanning methodology?

    Myself, I like work on my pasty whiteness, augmented only by monitor tan. It's tough being so devastatingly handsome and yet blinding in direct sunlight, but I manage to pull it off nicely...mostly by staying indoors and fully clothed.

    I ask this question because searching the forum threads yields no definitive answer from the ladies here, and I ask on the behalf of a ladyfriend of mine (full disclosure--former GF) who is consumed with having an excellent tan all the time (and I admit, it does become her).

    What methods do you ladies find most effective (by all measures), and what are the risks/benefits with your chosen method(s)?

    Thanks in advance.
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    Default Re:Is there a consensus on tanning methodology?

    no consensus

    some tan in beds, some fake tan, others are happy to be white....

    I personally am a self-tanner. It looks natural enough, so why not?

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    i tan in beds. actually, i prefer paying for the standup kind. it's so much more comfortable. at the moment, i'm not very tan at all. once i get a bit darker, i'll probably start using self-tanner too...so i can harm my skin a little bit less. real tans are so dangerous, you know.

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    Yeah, I know my friend likes to use Claris self-tanner, which is expensive but you can't tell that it comes out of a tube.

    However, she also likes the stand-up tanning salons, though with her skin complexion she shouldn't be doing that, in my view.
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    Your right, after years of tanning, and i am very light skinned, i burned most of the time. Now i have basal cells popping up about once every 2 years. Not fun having them removed. Even with a high SPF, you can still get skin cancer. Of course people can get it without being a sun worshiper too.

    I learned the hard way, they hurt to take off, but heal very well. No scar. I have them scraped and burned, skin grows back together inside the removal area....HURTS again.

    Also Squamous has popped up on me too, now i have to have full body checks every six months. Not fun.

    That is my opinion about sun, tanning beds. Use a bottle and a high SPF! 10 minutes in the sun will not harm you they say......whatever.

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    I had a friend who tanned religiously in the tanning beds...she now has "leather bag" syndrome. I think when she dies, they'll probably just make a hand-bag out of her. Some damage from the tanning beds, etc can slowly be reversed...but, once your skin gets to the "leather look", it's too late. It's sad cuz she's so beautiful...she was an aspiring model and beginning to do well. Not anymore...

    I prefer the "tan in a bottle". It sometimes rubs off on things (while you're waiting for it to set) so that gets annoying, but I will have my beautiful skin for the rest of my life.

    I did the tanning beds a few times a few months ago...and the place didn't keep up with the bulb changes and I ended up "tiger striping". It sucks and for someone like me whose tan from this summer will last until the end of next year with no help...it was a pain in the ass. I prefer the bottle, for this reason too...a mistake will only last a week.

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    I use a combo of self tanners and tanning beds. This makes me look much darker than I can get with either alone. I use more self tanner in the winter time, but like getting into tanning beds for some aditional "light therapay" to beat the winter blues.


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    I am allergic to the ingredients in bronzers and self tanners.. so I use the beds- but I only use them once per week- no more than 8 minutes at a time. I still have a nice glow and I cover my face with two towels while in the bed. Because I go for less than 1/3 of the time, I still have a nice glow (I'm a natural red head, and I am very fair anyways) and it just gives me a little bit of color.

    I wish I could use the self tanners, but unfortunately I break out so badly and itch so much that every single one of them have the same common ingredient so it sucks.


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    I like the Mystic Tan...although it is a bit spendy, it is quick and painless. It works very well if your skin is properly exfoliated and moisturized beforehand.

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    During the day I work riding horses... it leaves my face with a nice glow, but I'm left with polo shirt tan lines and pasty pale legs (ick).

    I even out in tanning beds, but I tan very easily so I'm never in there for more than 10 minutes and never need to go to a higher bed.

    I know its bad for you, but my mother has tanned (in the natural sun) since she was young, and at 55 still has great skin (not leathery, very few wrinkles), and still in summer months gets a great natural tan from just doing yard work, so I'm hoping that I just have good genetics.

    Honestly, I know someone will warn me of the harm, but I go away constantly throughout the year, and even in Puerto Rico's hot sun, I lay out with baby oil and don't burn!
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    Just a response: You don't need to burn in order to get the "leather lady" look. It just takes laying in a tanning bed and worshiping the sun. It's ok to be outside for a while, but please take the necessary precautions...especially with the ozone layer having been compromised, the effects that your mom would have experienced 30-40 years ago is much different than the effects you will experience now.

    Tan safely, tan smart.

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    Default Re:Is there a consensus on tanning methodology?

    did someone say Nude Beach?

    just dont forget to protect the wang with some suntan lotion.

    As long as you use a decent lotion and dont get burned you will be OK in my opinion.

    Never go out your first day in the sun for 8 hours no matter how much sunscreen you use....you will burn...burns are what causes the problems...

    Once you get darker you will be able to stay out longer without burning...but still use the sunscreen.

    I been to the beach about 4 times this year...and I play basketball outside for 3 hours a day after work....i cant get any darker than I am right now, nor can I really get burned at all...but I still use sunscreen if im gonna go to the beach

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    I have read a lot about sun-tanning and skin cancer and the outcome seems to be inconclusive in the fact that people in sunnier southern climates get skin cancer LESS than people in the north. For example, florida has a lower skin cancer rate per capita than michigan - even though people in florida get much more sun (3000 hours of sunshine per year in Ft. Lauderdale)

    And it is not doubt that we need sun in our life as just being in the sun 10 minutes a day caused our bodies to produce necessary vitamin d, and allows us to assimilate 30% or more calcium. So we do need the sun, and darker skinned people need way more than light skin people. Dark black people need 50 times as much sun as white people or they run the risk of vit. D deficiency.

    I go out in the sun a couple times a week becasue I know it is healthy for me, and is part of a total health plan I follow.

    There are other factors that come into play in regards to skin cancer. Cancer of any kind CANNOT grow in an oxygen rich environment. That's rite, cancer cannot live in an oxygen rich body. The problem is that most people are completely oxygen depleted. Additionally, cancer CANNOT replicate in an ALKALINE body. Most peoples bodies are extremely ACIDIC due to animal foods and cooked foods. The only alkaline foods are raw fruits and vegetables and raw cheese and milk. There are extremely acidic foods that many people eat like meat, coffee, soda, alcohol, and even cigarettes are acidic. All of these together and you have a prime breeding ground for cancers. It's funny too, that the same foods that are alkaline are also righ in OXYGEN and antioxidents to further compat cancer. Eat predominately raw fruits and veggies and skin cancer will be a non issue, your body will simply be too well equipped to use the sun as a food instead of a poison. Also the toxins from processed foods are stored in the fat layer, which literally cook when laying in the sun. That's the reason why fat people burn so fast - they are so toxic that they are cooking the fat and the toxins in thier fat.

    I know from my own experience (i am a light skinned redhead) i used to burn in the sun in 15 minutes, especially on vacation in florida in the winter as I used to live in ny. Now i live in florida and I can suntan for 5 hours in the dead of summer and not burn at all, becasue my body can more than handle the sun. If i did this a few years ago, I would be dead or in the hospital. I am the only redhead I know that does not burn at all - and even gets a dark tan.
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    I'm going to point to genetics here as the deciding factor as to how much sun you should get. My family is blended Caucasian and Hispanic so we can all tan well without burning- up to a point. My nephews are little blond boys who tan very dark in the summer. Look at your family to see their history of tanning ability and skin cancer incidents.
    You can safely expose yourself to small and moderate doses of sun but any more than that, with sunscreen and/or protective clothing. The sunlight IS Ultra Violet Radiation....do not forget that. I worked outdoors for several years, and did begin to get visibly tougher skin on the tanned parts. (The skin tone I have without tanning is the one on the avatar).
    Be safe above all. A little color is nice, but not worth risking cancer over.

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    Maybe it's the vicodin I'm on for my hurt back but Ryan, your post cracked me up.

    I'm not disputing anything you said...I'm actually going to try to implement your suggestions in to my daily health plan...but something about fat people being toxic killed me!

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    I wont tan in beds anymore. It's not worth it. I want to keep my beautiful skin!!!

    i do use clarins and lancome's self tanners that look natural enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissTaylor
    Maybe it's the vicodin I'm on for my hurt back but Ryan, your post cracked me up.

    I'm not disputing anything you said...I'm actually going to try to implement your suggestions in to my daily health plan...but something about fat people being toxic killed me!
    LOL, it is funny, but it's true! Fat people burn faster than thin people! They have more toxins in their body, as toxins are stored in fat. When toxins are submitted to sun, they burn!

    Unhealthy people also burn faster than healthy people. I know this firsthand becasue as I said - I uesd to burn in 10-15 minutes (in NY)before changing my diet. Now, I can stay in the sun all day in the summer in florida all day and be totally fine. No burning at all. And I am a fair skinned redhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RYAN
    LOL, it is funny, but it's true! Fat people burn faster than thin people! They have more toxins in their body, as toxins are stored in fat. When toxins are submitted to sun, they burn!

    Unhealthy people also burn faster than healthy people. I know this firsthand becasue as I said - I uesd to burn in 10-15 minutes (in NY)before changing my diet. Now, I can stay in the sun all day in the summer in florida all day and be totally fine. No burning at all. And I am a fair skinned redhead.


    Be that as it may, FAT is stored UNDER the skin, where the sun's rays can't reach it!

    Anyhow...a little sun just going outside once in a while about your typical daily business can provide some of the Vitamin D that your body does need. However, the sun does age you and prolonged sun exposure, ESPECIALLY from the concentrated rays of a tanning bed, may cause cancer.

    Don't buy the crap tanning salons tell you to sell memberships. You might not always burn in a bed, but tanning is a result of your skin cells being damaged. Any dermatologist will tell you that. If you tan, burn or not, you're damaging your skin.

    My mother is in her 50's and didn't bake with baby oil with her friends in the 60's and 70's and she looks at least 10 years younger than she is.

    I usually work pale in the club and still make money. On the rare occasion some doofus says something like "you need a tan", I respond with "I'm not really into the whole looking leathery and getting skin cancer thing."

    CO, your ex's tan might be becoming, but I can bet you she already has some premature wrinkling on her face. I've seen women in their mid 20's, like myself, with crow's feet that a 40 year old would be freaked out to have.

    And for those of you that don't tan your faces, hands are a giveaway of age too. There are lots of good self-tanners on the market nowadays. Applied properly, they can look amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RYAN
    LOL, it is funny, but it's true! Fat people burn faster than thin people! They have more toxins in their body, as toxins are stored in fat. When toxins are submitted to sun, they burn!

    Unhealthy people also burn faster than healthy people. I know this firsthand becasue as I said - I uesd to burn in 10-15 minutes (in NY)before changing my diet. Now, I can stay in the sun all day in the summer in florida all day and be totally fine. No burning at all. And I am a fair skinned redhead.
    I'm as fair as they get. I think I'm part albino (lol, jk), but I don't burn. It is like a physical impossibility. I never have been able to. I don't think it has anything to do with being fat or unhealthy. God knows I've got me a layer of fat!!
    Perhaps (and I really don't know, just guessing here) that your burning has something to do with the difference between FL and NY sun? Different atmosphere, ozone or something?



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    I go for the pasty look in the winter... Then I'll tan naturally in the summer by just being outside. I hate hate hate self tanners... it just looks odd on me. Since I'm more of a light olive tone I found most self tanners are made for people with white rosy or golden tones. Maybe fat people burn quicker since they are not usually active outside/in the sun hence their skin will react to the UVA UVB rays differently since they are not always exposed to it.

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    I use airbrush tanning. It looks so good that I don't mind shelling out thirty five dollars a session for it. My skin will stay beautiful and my risk of skin cancer is almost eliminated. I never tanned in high school and have only been in a tanning bed twice. So I think my wrinkles will be a long time coming.

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    35 bucks .. i pay 20 for mystic tan!!!

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    CO, your ex's tan might be becoming, but I can bet you she already has some premature wrinkling on her face. I've seen women in their mid 20's, like myself, with crow's feet that a 40 year old would be freaked out to have.
    Yeah, she already has that phenomenon going on. Which is ostensibly why she tans; to conceal the age of her skin. Which causes her skin to age more. So she has to conceal it. Which causes her skin to age more...see where I'm going here?

    I'll stick to being a pasty white guy, thank you.
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    I used to airbrush tan and I used to mystic tan. I like the results of airbrush (paid 40 for three sessions and had a really deep beautiful tan) but when it started coming off, I looked like I had that disease Michael Jackson claims made him white.....Mystic actually pans out to cost more than airbrush (which isn't true in most cities...i pay ten a session for that and have to go twice as much nearly) but when it wears off, it wears off pretty evenly. I'm going to start doing mystic once a week during the winter months and tanning a couple times a week just to get that warm feeling. I have to maintain a base color or else mystic and airbrush look hideously orange on me. I'm beyond pasty....I'm a shade lighter than mayo!

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    Hey CO, after you get all nice & tanned post a pic for us to see. LOL

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