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    Default The Freakin Cowards Did It Again.

    They did give warning that it would happen, of course. But, what the hell were we supposed to do? Bow down to their demands? Screw that.. This is very sad anyway. I remember watching his tape on CNN after he was captured. They beheaded him.

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    I can't get the link to work....it takes me to an aol sign-in page (and I don't use aol).
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    Default Re:The Freakin Cowards Did It Again.

    Try this Hunny.. I wasn't aware that you couldn't access it unless you have AOL.. My apologies.

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    This is from the Al Jazeera Website:


    US captive executed in Saudi Arabia
    Friday 18 June 2004, 23:01 Makka Time, 20:01 GMT


    An al-Qaida web site carried the group's demands

    The American defence worker captured in Saudi Arabia last week has been killed after a 72-hour deadline for the Saudi government to release al-Qaida prisoners passed.

    Johnson was seized last weekend by Saudi dissidents who promised to kill him by Friday if the kingdom did not release its al-Qaida prisoners.

    Reports from the satellite channel al-Arabiya said an al-Qaida affiliated web site showed photos of Johnson beheaded. The web site said the Saudi government failed to release the prisoners as per the captors' demands.

    The web site also showed pictures of what appeared to be Johnson's severed head.

    Three pictures shown

    There were three pictures of what appeared to be Johnson's severed head - one showed the bloodied head propped up on the back of a body in an orange jumpsuit with a knife leaning on the face.

    A second picture showed a hand lifting up the head and a third image showed the body and the severed head from a different angle.

    Johnson had worked in Saudi
    Arabia for over a decade

    "As we promised the mujahidin, we have beheaded the American hostage Paul Marshall after the deadline that the mujahidin gave to the tyrannical Saudi government passed," a statement signed by the Organisation of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula said on al-Islah web site.

    Johnson, 49, was an employee of defence contractor Lockheed Martin, which manufactures US helicopter gunships.

    The statement said al-Qaida had killed him because of "what Muslims have suffered from American Apache aircraft and their rockets".

    "This act is to heal the hearts of believers in Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq and the Arabian Peninsula.

    'Taste suffering'

    "This is so that he can taste what Muslims have suffered from Apache planes and their rockets. The slain American parasite was working on their maintenance and developing their
    systems in Saudi Arabia," the statement said.

    "We, by the will of God, will continue to fight the enemies of God...This act is revenge against them and will be a lesson so that they can be sure of the fate of those who come to our
    country."

    "This is so that he can taste what Muslims have suffered from Apache planes and their rockets"

    Organisation of al-Qaida in the Arab Peninsula,
    Statement

    The statement warned other Americans would meet a similar fate if they went to Saudi Arabia.

    Johnson was the latest westerner to be seized during an ongoing series of attacks in Saudi Arabia.

    Two were shot dead last week.

    &#039oor to door searches'

    A senior Saudi official in Washington said a team of about 20 FBI agents specialising in hostage rescue and negotiations had worked alongside the Saudis to try to secure Johnson's
    release.

    The official said that for the past two days, more than 15,000 Saudi officers and security forces had been combing Riyadh for Johnson, going door-to-door in some neighbourhoods
    considered hotbeds for al-Qaida members and sympathisers.

    As a defence engineer Johnson
    was an obvious target for al-Qaida

    Earlier, prominent Saudi cleric Shaikh Salah bin Abd Allah al-Humaid, in a sermon at Friday prayers in Makka's Grand Mosque, denounced Johnson's capture and potential killing as grave sins under Islam, the most senior Saudi cleric to do so.

    Captors' demands

    Three days after his capture, Johnson appeared on a video on the internet in which his captors identified themselves as an al-Qaida group.

    They threatened to kill him on Friday unless the Saudi government released all its al-Qaida prisoners and all Westerners agreed to leave the Arabian peninsula.

    "The US government continues to receive credible information indicating that extremists are planning further attacks against US and Western interests," the warning said.

    "Credible information indicates that terrorists continue to target residential compounds in Saudi Arabia, particularly in the Riyadh area, but also compounds throughout the country.

    "Recent incidents indicate that American citizens residing in private residences are also being specifically targeted," it added.

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    *sigh*....I KNEW I didn't really want to know! It's so sad.....turns my stomach every time. Unfortunately, we have to accept that things like this are part of the war that we are in. Both sides are doing things that are incredibly wrong. The best we can do is to make sure that we as individuals do as much right as we can.

    *shakes her head in sadness*
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    Oh, I hear ya, girl.. Apparently, the video is being released. Ugh.. The pics are quite enough for me. I won't post the links to them, they're easily found on the web.

    Freakin cowards.

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    It's so awful that people feel the need to hurt others to make their point. I hate to think that there is any possible way for them to justify killing innocent people like him.
    It makes me so angry.



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    Default Re:The Freakin Cowards Did It Again.

    In another article, I read they killed the group leader while trying to dispose of the body...
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    Quote Originally Posted by happy_camper link=board=1;threadid=10262;start=msg124593#msg124 593 date=1087608359
    In another article, I read they killed the group leader while trying to dispose of the body...
    Yep, I read that too.. Good riddens to him..

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    Thank God we are finally starting to get some of the proclaimed leaders of these groups now.
    May they rot in hell...



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    We are the enemies of God? I dont think they know the shit they are trying to preach. They are the ones who go and kill the ones who are civilians just living day to day, or reporters and such. May they be maggot food soon.

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    ****** Edited Comment ******

    I feel sorry for those that lead a life of false idols and ideals. May you receive your "reward" in hell.

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    an admittedly partisan analysis of what's behind all of this ...

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    um....wow.....that's scary......

    Mel--what IS DEBKAfile anyway? I've never heard of it before.
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    Wow Melonie.. Thanks for sharing that..

    I'm waiting for election day to roll around when good ole G.W proclaims, "We have captured Osama and ALL heads of terrorist organizations! Remember to vote!"

    The whole thing is just sickening. When they had captured this poor man, and CNN was showing the video, I think everyone knew we would see this. Very sad though.. I feel very bad for his wife, after pleading for his life, she has to deal with the harsh reality of what has happened.

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    Expect more like this. A lot more--including a nuclear detonation in the continental United States. In our lifetime. I kid you not.

    There's still far too many apologists here in this country that haven't figured out that we're engaged in a war between civilizations. Until the debate ceases and we universally recognize that Islam is fundamentally incompatible with democracy, freedom and human rights, things will not substantively change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer link=board=1;threadid=10262;start=msg124944#msg124 944 date=1087680629

    Until the debate ceases and we universally recognize that Islam is fundamentally incompatible with democracy, freedom and human rights, things will not substantively change.

    Two cents.

    Agree completely Casual.

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    How horrible! I am afraid this is going to keep happening to Americans over there.


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    This makes me so sad in my heart. Why is it that we still haven't evolved enough on a spiritual level that this is still happening, that we can't communicate peacefully, and share the world in a peace manner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexisgold97 link=board=1;threadid=10262;start=msg125031#msg125 031 date=1087692491
    This makes me so sad in my heart. Why is it that we still haven't evolved enough on a spiritual level that this is still happening, that we can't communicate peacefully, and share the world in a peace manner?
    The sad part is, they think what they are doing is right. "WE" are the enemies and anyone who doesnt look to "ALLAH" is one who should be killed. (These are the extremeist bitches of course)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCGirl link=board=1;threadid=10262;start=msg124849#msg124 849 date=1087660084
    um....wow.....that's scary......

    Mel--what IS DEBKAfile anyway? I've never heard of it before.

    As I've posted in other threads, Debka is a news and analysis website based in Israel. Debka appears to have some decent connections to the intelligence community, as they have broken "news" stories on many occasions which haven't been confirmed by more mainstream news sources until later (sometimes MUCH later).

    This clearly means that Debka has a 'less than objective' editorial viewpoint, but I find it an interesting counterbalance to Al-Jazeera and other middle east news and analysis websites with a different "less than objective" editorial viewpoint.


    I agree that the Islamic fundamentalist fanatics seem to be fighting to the death to preserve a way of life which is anachronistic - IMHO some aspects of their 'agenda' still stem from the middle ages. I'm talking about their leaders commanding power and respect via extreme violence and fear, women being treated as less than equal/property, a legal system where the leaders are above the law (or who decide day by day what is 'right' and what is 'wrong&#039, an educational system where worldly knowledge is forbidden to the non-ruling class ... All in all, this Islamic fundamentalist culture is basically incompatible with the rest of the world in the 21st century and is particularly incompatible with democracy.

    The REAL problem for the Islamic fundamentalists is that in the past 20 years or so technology like the internet and satellite news has started to bring a view of the world in general to young muslims which is beyond the ability of the Islamic fundamentalist leaders to censor. Having had a glimpse of the world in general, most young muslims (particularly young muslim women) would not choose to continue living under the Islamic fundamentalist culture. IMHO this is the REAL war being fought in Afghanistan and Iraq, with "modern" muslim countries like Pakistan and Jordan supporting one side, and Fundamentalist muslim countries like Iran and Palestine supporting the other side, in a cultural struggle to the death. In reality, countries and borders have very little to do with it - the real conflict is between Shiite muslims and Sunni muslims.

    Saudi Arabia is walking a tightrope of sorts since it doesn't want to have to decide whether or not it will be a "modern" muslim country or a "fundamentalist" muslim country. This stems to some degree from the fact that the Saudi royal family remains in power due to "fundamentalist" principles, yet the good life they enjoy from oil profits depends on "modern" interaction with the rest of the world. IMHO this is the reason that Saudi Arabia has done little to stop Islamic fanatics and has allegedly done quite a bit to financially support them.

    However, the Islamic fanatics are now threatening to unravel the Saudi good life by scaring off the foreign workers on which the Saudi oil industry and Saudi military is heavily dependent, which appears to have finally forced the hand of the Saudi rulers to actually take a stand against (some) Islamic terrorists over this latest kidnapping and beheading incident. The Saudi rulers are starting to realize that if the Islamic terrorists are allowed to instill enough fear in the Saudi population, OR if the Islamic terrorists succeed in stopping the flow of enough oil money, that THEY may find themselves out of power.

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