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    Default Well, how did YOU learn to hussle dances?

    Damn, GIRLS! :'(

    I know I'm new at this, but it shouldn't be THIS F**KING hard!!!

    It's my first week at a new club, and even though I'm one of the prettiest girls there, I just can't seem to sell any dances

    A more experienced dancer took me under her wing twice two nights in a row and helped me get someone into the VIP so at least I broke even, but I can't get them to shell out on my own!!

    Now I understand why some dancers wind up with a pimp; I think it would be easier to walk up to tables and take the chance of rejection if I was gonna get my ass kicked for coming home broke, stead of just feeling sorry for myself after 1 or 2 'no's' and wasting the rest of the night with some time-waster.

    How did you learn to hustle?

    Are there any things you say in your head as you approach a customer to get psyched up for the sales pitch?

    I'm scared to just walk up to a guy and sit on his lap like some girls do; what if he says 'get off me' or something?

    Also, when they say no, I just can't make myself try to 'change' their minds - it feels despreate!

    What is your time limit to sit withsomeone before you ask if they want a dance? How long do you linger when they say no?


    ANY TIPS PLEASE PLEASE!!

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    Default Re:Well, how did YOU learn to hussle dances?

    Quote Originally Posted by shes_so_blonde link=board=27;threadid=10391;start=msg126947#msg12 6947 date=1088013786
    Now I understand why some dancers wind up with a pimp
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    Default Re:Well, how did YOU learn to hussle dances?

    The key is to ask loaded questions. You need to ask questions in a way that will have them saying "Yes" instead of "No" or "Maybe later". And, the more people and tables you go up to, the more you up your chances. Sales is all about numbers. If you go to one or two people/tables and then hit the dressing room after they both said no, then you are not going to make any money (obviously).

    The hustle is also all about asking EVERYONE if they would like to "finish the conversation in VIP". There are a lot of guys that will say no, an equal number will oblige. It's also in the way that you project yourself. If you go up to someone with the air of "You're paying for the best" the chances of you selling a dance/VIP will increase tenfold. If you look like you "feel guilty" charging the prices, they will think that you are not worth it. Also, I have found that when I start out the night with a wad of cash in my garter, I make more money (they tend to think that "Wow...it's early in the night and she's banking...she must be good").

    I hope that I helped a little...if you have more questions, let me know!

    --Venus

    PS. There is a seminar called "Dancer Wealth Training". You can go to their website at http://www.dancerwealth.com or you can PM one of the co-founders (whose on this website)--Dancer Wealth.

    Good luck!

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    Default Re:Well, how did YOU learn to hussle dances?

    1. How did you learn to hustle?

    Practice practice practice. And watch what other girls do, and ask questions from those who seem to know what they're doing and seem friendly.


    2. Are there any things you say in your head as you approach a customer to get psyched up for the sales pitch?

    I don't consciously say anything to myself as I approach a guy, I just know there will eventually be someone to say yes. Don't take the no's personally, it's just a no.


    3. I'm scared to just walk up to a guy and sit on his lap like some girls do; what if he says 'get off me' or something?

    He won't say "get off me". 99% of the guys in there would be thrilled for you to sit on their laps. Go for it! If any guy is not interested in having you even approach you will learn to read their body language before you get there so you can move on to the next one. Remember they are there to see US, not the other way around. They WANT us to approach.


    4. Also, when they say no, I just can't make myself try to 'change' their minds - it feels despreate!

    When they say no, just say "ok, well I need to get back to work then, have fun!" Smile and walk away. No biggie. Don't try to change their mind, it does look desperate and doesn't work very often. Better to move on to the next one.


    5. What is your time limit to sit withsomeone before you ask if they want a dance? How long do you linger when they say no?

    My time limit is by the end of whatever song is playing when I walk up. Of course I'm in a $10 dance environment so you spend less time chatting for that. In most clubs where dance prices are higher, no more than 2 songs is good, 3 max and I wouldn't do 3 unless I feel he's a potential VIP or mulitple dance buyer. It is sort of hard to always pay attention to how many songs have gone by without being obvious you're counting during the conversation, but with a little practice you'll be fine.


    The hardest thing for you it seems, is keeping your confidence up. Just remember they came to the club to see YOU. They all want your attention and the best part is they will pay you for it. Just cruise up and slide onto the guy's lap like you belong there, smile and ask how he's doing and go from there. If one says no another will say yes, so just keep going til you get the yes. Once you get the yes your confidence goes up and it snowballs.

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    Default Re:Well, how did YOU learn to hussle dances?

    I hated ld's, and would avoid them at all costs. The club i worked let me do stage shows!! Got lucky.

    Finally i had to give in and start doing ld's, what i did was become a silent learner. I would watch the dancer giving the most (clean) ld's on every shift!

    It worked, you can't really copy another dancers ld's to the full extent, so i would watch the guys face, see what he liked most, and incorporate that move in with my own ld's. I will grind a guy upon request however, or sometimes just do some tease grinding here and there, most love it! Very easy!

    Pamela

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    Default Re:Well, how did YOU learn to hussle dances?

    Oh gosh hustling....sorry forgot. This may sound tacky, but i showed confidence and made sure we had eye contact going on first! "do you want me?' Wow! Can't believe i said that. But it does work at times when you have a guy already watching you.

    Or bend over the table and say Hi! Big smile foot running up my other leg! Something sexy, and yes i can be blunt. After all these years i better have learned rejection!

    Good luck.

    Pamela

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    Default Re:Well, how did YOU learn to hussle dances?

    Hi! There's so much stuff to cover, & I don't have much time here -- but I did at least want to say one thing:

    What are you THINKING when you are approaching customers? Are you thinking they are going to say no? That they aren't going to like you? That you're lucky if you only break even tonight?

    You've got to think POSITIVE thoughts. I don't know how, but they can feel it. Go up to them thinking "hey, you WANT a dance with me...." It's so weird, I have gotten guys to dance with me just by thinking positively when I ask the question. If I'm thinking negatively, it's like they can see it in my eyes & they say no!

    Bridgette is like the queen of hustling ideas -- read some of her old posts -- but remember, if you're not thinking positively in your mind, not even the best lines or techniques will work....
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    Default Re:Well, how did YOU learn to hussle dances?

    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess link=board=27;threadid=10391;start=msg126952#msg12 6952 date=1088014960
    The key is to ask loaded questions. You need to ask questions in a way that will have them saying "Yes" instead of "No" or "Maybe later".
    Bingo! It also helps to be able to talk with your customers on their level and that mean different things for each customer so it helps ALOT to be well read .

    I suggest reading a couple of newspapers regularly to stay on the up and up with recent sports and business and culture trends. The trick is to create common ground and positive reactions.

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    Default Re:Well, how did YOU learn to hussle dances?

    Honestly, sometimes it really doesn't matter what you look like. I found out sometimes you need to make them feel special in some way. Don't give up!!!

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