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    Let's see if we can shift the discussion to the more important issue - where is racism, and how do we end it? I will list a few of my pet peeves (excluding the obvious ones about the KKK and use of derogatory racial slurs and behaviors):

    1. Women and anyone who is not white being paid less than a white male for the same job.

    2. Affirmative Action - if you pass up a higher qualified individual in favor of a lower qualified individual based on race, it's racism...regardless of which races are involved.

    3. The Bryant Gumble cry - I have heard both blacks and whites refer to any black person who speaks intelligently as being a Bryant Gumble. It bothers me more when black people say it. He has achieved a lot, and knocking anyone down for being well spoken and educated is very sad.

    4. Cops beating the crap out of an unarmed black man...pathetic.

    5. Black communities responding with riots. Yeah, that'll work.

    6. Al Sharpton defending the acts of black teenagers who commit crimes.

    7. Anyone, including the NAACP, who chastises a black man for impressing upon the black community that they can and need to improve themselves.

    8. The classic act of jumping to conclusions that statements are racist. Several years ago in Athens, Ohio (Ohio University) there was a black fraternity having a bit of an impromptu street party. A police officer was quoted as saying "Stop running around like a bunch of zoo animals." (paraphrased) Oh my god, that's a racist statement...because we all know there are monkeys in a zoo, and that's what he REALLY meant, uh-huh!

    9. Assuming that because I am white, I am a racist. Dude...do I REALLY need to explain that one?

    10. This hasn't happened yet...but it will. If I'm playing euchre, and I reneg, it is NOT a racist word, and I will NOT say "RE-AFRICAN-AMERICAN".

    "They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ... And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk. ... Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. ... You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth!"

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    I agree totally Stripper!!!!!
    My idea on how to get rid of racism is to have all the "G-funk ghetto thugs" and the "backwards assed red necks" and give them all really big fucking guns and sent them all to Wyoming(along with putting up really big fences), and just let them shoot themselves extinct.
    after than all we gotta do is bury the bodies, then start all over with another vs. match up till every one is so afraid to speak their mind on racist issues or they are all dead whichever comes first.
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    Default Re:Enough of the other post...your suggestions on ending racism...?

    How about the guy who asked my girlfriend if she had a boyfriend the other night. When she said yes, he asked if I was black or white. When she said I was white, he said "Oh, no honey, you need a black man to take care of that!"

    What the fuck is that? Is he racist? Would I be racist if I said he was acting like a "nigger"? Is it impossible for me to have an enormous cock, or know what to do with it, if I am white?

    The cook, who has grabbed her ass uninvited and made numerous crude sexual remarks, even after he has had his invitations for dates refused, asked her "What&#039;s wrong, don&#039;t you like black men?"

    I have worked in one club which was largely frequented by what I would describe as "white trash". Am I racist for saying this?

    I did feel very sympathetic to the black dancers who worked there and had trouble making money, but to have 5 black girls out of 15 dancers who were working there was a big mistake on the part of management. Especially when we had to play rock, and all but one of them insisted vehemently that they couldn&#039;t "dance to that shit!" So I stretched the rules to help them, which fortunately was OK with management after I explained the predicament, and tried to mix it up to keep everyone happy. But I suspect the customers would have just preferred rock.

    Was I right to put the ability of the girls to actually dance above the customers&#039; unspoken preference? Most of them didn&#039;t make much money anyways.

    What about the hard-core rappers? They say "nigger" all the time, and it&#039;s ok--just part of their culture. But if I say it, I am racist and they aren&#039;t? Is it OK for them to be blatantly sexist ("I fucked his bitch, made her suck my dick"--I forget which of the best selling songs that is from), but I should feel sympathetic to their plight regardless? Or what used to be their plight, since they are getting rich in large part by reviling women.

    The vast majority of power in this country is in the hands of older white males. The vast majority of wealth is in their or their widows&#039; hands. Is this their fault? Or is it the fault of the System itself, which makes it extremely difficult for uneducated and poorly dressed non-whites to compete?

    I am still undecided about Affirmative Action. It is a great idea, but often results in the lesser qualified candidate getting the job, or scholarship. But how else are minorities, without access to higher education or entry-level jobs to GET the qualification, ever going to get ahead?

    I have always been the first to jump on my friends&#039; shit when I perceive racist behavior on their part. But I am dismayed by evidence of blatant sexist and racist behavior on the part of so many members of the race I have heretofore defended.

    Later...

    Kitana, I was writing this when you posted your reply, which might be the best answer to all our problems yet! I love it.

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    I think it starts from within one&#039;s own self. We all have the opportunity to get rid of the "God Complex" that so many of us suffer from. This is defined as thinking you know what&#039;s best in and for the world and anyone who dosen&#039;t agree/fit into the mold is somehow wrong. Maybe it&#039;s just a little bit ridiculous to think we&#039;re somehow better than another person, or try to "be the bigger person" I think that is truely demeaning and arrogant, but what do I know...I do know this; it&#039;s not fun to be on the receiving end of that shitstick, and I make it my personal responsibility not to do that crap to anybody else.
    People are not all the same, so if you regularly judge people on their appearance, spoken accent, language, financial status etc, IMO you are totally missing the big picture.
    Also, I think that it&#039;s pretty hard to learn, share, speak and exchange with people when you lack a certain level of respect for them. Then you don&#039;t get the lesson.
    Each person I come accross is an opportunity to learn share and exchange. I never know what the lesson will be, hell it may be a repeat lesson. Either way, I&#039;d be cheating myself of life expierence if I bogged my mind down with racist thoughts and ideals. Not to say that I waste my time on those who don&#039;t deserve it, and of course I don&#039;t strike up conversations with lone strangers in dark deserted areas!

    So enough with the broad generalizations, scapgoating, stereotyping and all those other cliches I forgot to mention!

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    Djoser thanks, I love you too you sexy beast! LOL
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    I understand where the whole "nigger" thing coming from black men comes from. It is their opportunity to say "fuck you" to the portion of the population that uses that term in a derogatory manner. I understand the desire to have your own "language"....I understand the desire to celebrate your heritage. But over the years that has become part of their own undoing. You cannot say "It&#039;s not fair to treat us as a separate group." while also saying "We are a separate group."

    Martin Luther King Jr.&#039;s death was a tragedy. Worse than that is there are so many (NOTE: not all) who preach how wonderful he was while behaving against what he lived and work for.

    And for the record...do I think it would be any different if roles were reversed? Hell no. We&#039;d all be in the same boat, but with the tables turned.

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    I think that if everyone had eye sight as bad as mine the world would be a much nicer place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser link=board=27;threadid=10545;start=msg129832#msg12 9832 date=1088467215
    How about the guy who asked my girlfriend if she had a boyfriend the other night. When she said yes, he asked if I was black or white. When she said I was white, he said "Oh, no honey, you need a black man to take care of that!"

    The cook, who has grabbed her ass uninvited and made numerous crude sexual remarks, even after he has had his invitations for dates refused, asked her "What&#039;s wrong, don&#039;t you like black men?"
    I agree! What the hell are they thinking when they say "Oh, no honey, you need a black man to take care of that!"?? This is by far THE NUMBER ONE most annoying and irritating line I get at work and seriously I get it from 80% of the guys who come into the club and are black. WTF? Usually I just laugh it off at work so I dont offend them but Id LOVE to slap every fucker who says that to me. And then after I laugh it off the other famous line comes into play: "What&#039;s wrong, don&#039;t you like black men?" WTF again. Usually Ill say "no I just dont like men in general" LOL but these guys get on my nerves. Yes I have dated black men before. Several actually and some black guys had big weenie and some had small weenies! Surprisingly enough the out of all the men I have ever dated the one with the longest, thickest, most equipped shlong was a WHITE male. I think guys like this need to get off their ego trip!
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    LOL Aussie, that&#039;s why I take out my contacts!
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    Get to know one another.

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    Yeap,I am definately sick and tired of these racial threads myself.I think racism and other similar issues would cease if everyone stopped "hatin&#039;" on each other.I truly think jealousy sparks a lot of these type issues.
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    Personally, i am intrigued by black people . I dunno if that&#039;s racist or not, but it seems like a whole other culture existing in my backyard. My best friend as a kid was a black kid named Pat, i used to eat at his house a lot, good food. I used to call him "Peach Fuzz" because his head was always almost shaved. His mom and dad were always nice to me.

    I can&#039;t honestly say that i understand black america, but i dig it nonetheless.

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    Actually, as a white guy, it&#039;s sometimes hard to know if you are being racist or not. Is me digging black america racist? After all it has to do with race, but also culture...

    Not sure...

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    There&#039;s a movie called "Storytelling".It portrays racism from the opposite angle,people getting involved with a particular race because they like everything about that race.White women getting involved with black men can be construed as racism because they are supposedly hung well.White men may get involved with black women because they are supposedly "freaks" in bed.These instances are considered racsim also.
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    That is interesting...from all the definitions I have read about racism, it requires a feeling of superiority over a particular race in order to be considered racism.

    White women getting involved with black men because they like something about them simply sounds like a preference to me. If anything, it would be racism towards the white race, not the black.

    Mapcap, I have often wondered the same thing. I have found that I will be a little extra courteous towards blacks in some situations than to whites. If there is a black person behind me while walking into a store, for example, I will be more likely to hold the door and wait for him/her to enter before I do. I&#039;m not exactly sure why...I guess it&#039;s my way of saying "sorry there are so many white assholes in the world" in an attempt to compensate a little...and perhaps to say "We&#039;re not all like that." Then I have wondered if that was racist. I really don&#039;t think it is...but the level of sensitivity is so high about that issue, that I do wonder about how others will take it.

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    That is the other end of racism,for example,blacks make the best BBQ,all blacks are good in sports,etc.These are not derogotory comments but are comments that clump all blacks together.I&#039;m Chinese.I&#039;m tired of people asking me if I&#039;m good at math or if I could tear the wok up with fried rice.That&#039;s racism.
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    I&#039;m Albanian. All I ever get is "What the fuck is that?"

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    HA HA!That&#039;s funny,although I&#039;m a HUGE fan of awesome bread.Where can I get some?
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    Well, i&#039;m a white bred motherfucker. I&#039;m so far from black i can barely see it in the rereview mirror, i&#039;m very far from a hip hop guy. I listen to Led Zeppelin and the Beetles for crying out loud... But i appreciate Hip Hop as an art form even if i don&#039;t understand it, and i appreciate black culture and support equal rights.

    Incidentally, i am against affirmative action because it implies that black or Latino people are inferior. I think it had it&#039;s place once, but it needs to go the way of the Brontosaurus now. The reason i say this is because i cannot imagine wanting to get a job on skin color rather than merit nowadays. In 1970 maybe it was needed, but i think we know that skin color has nothing to do with merit anymore.

    One of the worst times in my life, but a defining moment for me was learning that most black people with the name "Marshall" were probably owned by my family, well their ancestors (THEY, i won&#039;t accept it as having anything to do with me, owned about 10,000 slaves in Louisianna. Slave owners usually named their slaves with their last name) I hate that whole idea. I don&#039;t know WHAT i would do if i met a black man or woman with the name "Marshall."

    Race is a hard, but good thing to discuss. I&#039;m sooooo tired right now, so i&#039;m not sure if i&#039;m making sense.

    At any rate, i&#039;m whitebred, but black people cook good food (is that racist?)

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    My grandmother actually came to America off a boat during WWII. Soldiers in Albania (not Albanian soldiers, mind you...I don&#039;t think those exist) would go to your house and bang on the door. You had to throw bread out to them, or they would ransack the place.

    I&#039;ve always joked that Albanians were hillbilly Greeks....but that pisses my mom off.


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    Where you born there?
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    No, I was not. I was born in South East Uhiah...where men are men and sheep are scared.

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    i dont know what i feel about some of what was posted in this thread....but i dont want to argue about all that.

    At least we&#039;re talking positively about it....and thats a start.

    The only way to get rid of racism....is plain and simple dont treat anyone differently based on anything. Treat everyone the same...all the time.

    I grew up as an italian catholic kid in an all white rich jewish small town in NY. I&#039;ve been into hip-hop since I was 9 or 10 years old, people cant seem to understand why. Labeling the "hip-hop" community/culture as "black" is semi-racist(stereotyiping). "Hip-hop" has nothing to do with being black and vice versa.

    Since I&#039;ve been capable(old enough to do stuff on my own) of having friends outside my town, I&#039;ve had all kinds of friends of all different races. Ive dated white girls and black girls(the best relationship I ever had was with a black girl). I&#039;ve seen it all from both sides.

    I treat everyone the same regardless of what they look like. I will never make racial comments about anyone...i dont talk like that when im with my white friends and I dont talk like that when im with my black friends or any other friend.

    And can we stop calling black people african american. It has nothign to do with race. I can be african american for all anyone knows...white people live in africa too. Not all black people are african.

    Unfortuantely i dont believe racism will never end until we are all one big "grey" world after thousands of years of evlotution.

    oh and about the black guys saying things to girls about why they dont want black men...i&#039;ve been there too....my ex used to get it all the time. No one could understand what such a beautiful black girl could see in a dorky white boy(i could go on about this for pages). It worked both ways tho....many white girls couldnt understand or accept why I was with a black girl. Oh well....just ignore the ignorant

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    well, now that you&#039;ve all got it figured out, i guess we&#039;re all just gonna be happy singing and holding hands. but incase that fails, i propose we kill EVERYONE. cause i know thatd do the trick.

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    Too many people are quick to yell racist. This will NEVER change. Example: I had a guy (black) hanging out in the lobby of the hospital one night, falling asleep, grabbing his crotch, just not good infront of others passing by. I call security, they throw him out. He starts yelling racist pigs and all sorts of crap. Bottom line, he had NO business there, no one to visit, and was just looking for cool air and sleep. BS, i would have called no matter who you are. It&#039;s my job.

    I don&#039;t give a shit what colour you are, just behave when near me, or i will call police or whoever.

    I at times ask (what i see as harmless questions) racist questions. Enough already, get over it. Swedish bitch? is that not racist? Do i care, no. PS Terrell Owens, my fav. football player in the NFL, just left my team for the Eagles! I still love him! Yes he&#039;s BLACK.


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