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    Default Girls who let themselves get molested in private rooms for money...

    There are al lot of girls at my club who hurt money for dancers who are real dancers and one's who do not act like escort in strip clubs. I'm tired of girls becoming whores because the money's bad and then bregging about it like they make money clean, without the fondeling of breasts, ass, legs, and who knows what else?? They think no one knows that they are whores, but anyone who wanted to could see who is on the screen doing what with who....
    Why do such develish girls act like this and prentend no one knows what they really do for money behind close doors. It's just about girls who front or perp like they are not hookers and it makes me sick.
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    Lots of posts on this subject Daphned.

    I'm not really sure why girls do this kind of thing.. but I think from past posts we have all agreed, no need for extras and yes, it does hurt business.. sooner or later, the girls doing them will get caught.



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    But the majority of the time the mangement let it go and be happy they are making the money from the girls in the rooms.
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    Default Re:Girls who let themselves get molested in private rooms for money...

    Quote Originally Posted by daphned link=board=9;threadid=11516;start=msg146134#msg146 134 date=1091139078
    Why do such develish girls act like this and prentend no one knows what they really do for money behind close doors. It's just about girls who front or perp like they are not hookers and it makes me sick.
    LMAO "develish girls"....I love that term. I want to meet some of them.

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    Fondling of legs? I don't understand. Unless you mean the third leg...

    I don't mind customers touching my legs, but I move their hands if they get past mid thigh (too close to the kitty). I hate when guys try to touch my glowing triangle, or worse try to sneak hands into my thong, I get mean!

    I noticed that if I run my hands along a guys arms and shoulders during a dance (above the shirt), they're more likely to keep them still and it sets the tone for me to be in control of touching.

    Another trick I do is place my hands over whatever I don't want them to touch and move my body away from them. Like if they go for the boobs, I'll move back and tease my hands over them while remembering not to get my boobs that close again.
    I'm small enough to pin them down by kneeling on their legs, put hands on their shoulders or arms and arch the back (that way their hands are controlled by me.
    you could also incorperate holding their hands into the dance and once again, you're calling the shots.
    If all else fails... floor show (or table if you have one)! Not many guys will lean forward and reach down to touch you b/c it's too obvious, then you can tease your hands where they tried to touch.

    Many ways to avoid being molested and still make money.

    I see this all the time in Vegas, touching butt and breasts is common here. I manage to get around it. I see lots of dancers allowing that and more and the bouncers don't regulate at all. Luckily LE could be in there anytime and they do give tickets to those dancers (not often enough though). This element will always be present in the club though, it's up to each individual dancer to make sure it dosen't happen to her.
    I think some dancers do it b/c the feel the are being competitive, but I feel that it hurts them in the end b/c the guy won't get as many dances after the fantasy is broken.
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    Default Re:Girls who let themselves get molested in private rooms for money...

    I've worked in a couple of clubs-some dirty and some clean on the inside but the girls get down for their $$ when they leave. For example, I worked at a club in NY where bouncers and management watched you religiously in your lapdances-NO TOUCHY TOUCHY or hanky panky and I think the most a dude ever spent on me was $300 (that's rare, usually a dude will pop off $100-$150.) But then business got bad and all the girls started doing 'extras' after work. (Going home with customers) There was no more money in the club because all the girls got super nasty after work. Then I worked in the 'best club in the northwest' where they have booths, the managment doesn't care, and pretty much anything goes. But if you want to work there, your tip out is $130+ so you really need to hustle.

    Bottom line-I made good money there by charging extra for a little extra on dances. But you should set a boundary as to how far extra is for you because once your competition (other dancers' extras) becomes outright prostitution, it's time to hit another club. :o
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    Yeah, the part that is getting me, where I work customers can touch all but breasts and crotch, topless only. So that means ass and legs. I don't go outside the rules and yes, I do see other girls who do this while naked or let customers touch their boobs. Sometimes it hurts my money, most of the time not. But, sorry, if you want to work low contact, work somewhere that is low contact. Yeah, a lot of places aren't doing anything about it because they've decided it might not be prostitution and they make money from it. However, some places don't like it regardless and will hold themselves to NOT allowing. The key is to find a place you're comfortable with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan Dah link=board=9;threadid=11516;start=msg146252#msg146 252 date=1091149218
    The relevant question would be what the rules at that club are. But in any case someone needs a refresher in the meaning of "whore".
    yup. i don't see how letting a guy touch your breast, ass, and (god forbid) legs can make one a whore.

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    Yeah it sucks but in the end it all catches up with them. I think they lie to make them think what they are doing is all ok. But when reality catches up with them, they crash and burn. The good money they make in a short while isn't worth it in the long run.
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    These are the same women that eventually have to get sh*t-faced before starting a shift.They know they can't live with it any longer.
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    daphned, if you hate it so much, why do you choose to work in a club that's known for it? There are plenty of no contact clubs around.



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    This behaviour has been going on forever. If you dance in a higher contact club, then you will be dancing along with these people.

    I know, i dance Miami at times now, it's a pretty damn wide open club. If a dancer wants to play she will for the right amount.

    I would just move on to another club. This is going on in alot of clubs, some just are better at "hiding" extras.

    Me, i give high mileage, but no extras, and there is a difference. I am aloud to grind, or have a guy touch inside my thigh, which the thigh touching inside, i do not do, but can for more $$.

    It's all a matter of what you feel comfortable with, and the type of club you want to work in. If you are not happy move on.

    One word of caution, the other dancers move around too however.


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    I live in Pittsburgh and Club Erotica is the only club you can work at and make any money in Pittsburgh. I hate it but I have to put up with it. When diffenrent management use to be there the whores were put to work with the regualr customers.
    I work at the only club in Pittsburgh were there is Veagas style money.
    I hate the hooker and I wish they would go away.
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    Work in a club without private rooms. The reason there is Vegas money at your club is because they exist. The very act of taking a half naked girl into a booth to dance for you increases a mans expectation of sex or having them try to get away with something. Some girls are just skanky though and if your game is to provide sex not fantasy in a SC then the private rooms make that possible. Not to long ago they didn't even exist becuase nude contact for money was considered prostitution. How did that change?

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    Two things:

    1- "Known" extras are a two-way street, with both club management and the women who perform them being accountable. Obviously, if management knows about them and continues to allow them to occur, you should have equal hate for the management of your club as you do the women doing the extras. After all, they are making the decision that it's worth being busted OR shut down versus disallowing them.

    2- Extras DO attract more customers. This is clearly a case of wanting your cake and eat it too. You want to work in a club that is enjoying increased customer traffic from the availability of extras, but don't want there to be any extras? As goldclubbing put it- this is really what defines the door traffic in clubs in San Francisco, with the extras clubs often times having more customers at noon during a weekday than the non-extras clubs on the busiest Saturday night.

    I know it sucks for you daphned- I have a few friends that are in your exact same situation and it IS unfair, and you DO have to work harder to capture sales when the other women around you have it easier from their available higher "menu" of services... but this is your choice. Unfortunately, it's the way a LOT of regions coast to coast are evolving- once pandora's jar has been opened, there is very little that can be done to change it.

    Hang in there daphned! In a way, try to recover a little grief by understanding that you are beating the system by being a good hustler and stellar performer. You're capitalizing off the draw of your club, which is surely a game you're not willing to play. Keep up the good work!

    I can totally relate as I've lost someone very dear to me who moved this year for this exact same issue. Realistically, her choices in my area were: 1) Make the same as a mid level admin assistant by working at low contact/non-extras clubs, 2) Make average to above average money competing in clubs prolific with extras, or 3) Start to perform extras herself. She decided to try and move to other cities in search of one where extras haven't proliferated the higher end clubs yet, but her search so far has been unyielding.

    Good luck and hang in there!
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    I known it sucks. Now I can't find any dank so now.....
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    daphned, that's not true, there are plenty of clubs in Pittsburgh where a good looking girl who knows how to hustle can make as much or more money than Erotica. From what I've seen lately, there's not much money left at Erotica anyways.

    Of course at other clubs you have to actually dance when you get on stage and talk to customers before they spend money on you.

    The Filly Corral would be closest to what your used to, but they have the same issues with extras, and an asshole manager. You might try Bare Elegance - it's totally possible for a classy girl to bank there. You get more than twice as much for the rooms, and you get to keep all your table dance money, and there's absolutely NO CONTACT on the floor.



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    I worked at BE for 3 years, I'm done with that place and there is more money at Erotica than BE will ever have. I have been a stripper for 7 years all over the country. I'm hip to the game.
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    WB daphned I thought you got banned LOL

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    Extras to me is anything that is regarded as prostitution by law. If you are talking about clubs which offer full nude lap dances with the customer allowed to touch everywhere except inner thigh, pubic area and any genitals.... then you are way off.

    I was "raised" as such in that type of environment as a stripper... as that is what the Gold Coast offers basically. There is only really two clubs right now that offer the customer less contact with the dancer...and one is topless no touching.

    Anyway, what you need to do is find a way to dance that will help you make money whilst not going beyond your boundaries. I know I have finally done this and realise that I don't need to be "all over" the customer anymore to make good dollars.

    I also have realised a way to dance where the touching is kept to a more allowable standard with me than what I was previously doing due to thinking it was the "norm".

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    Ok basically around here being touched on the ass things or boobs without any clothing on those parts is prostitution if you are being paid for a dance. So basically that's being a whore. There you go Pandah.

    These thaings are extras here, we are not supposta be a high contact club, at least one foot on the floor at all times, no more than 6 seconds of grinding, ect... so anything breaking the law is technically an extra, and therefore technically prostitution.

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    To continue the trend they just added private rooms to my favorite club...the girls aren&#039;t to sure what to offer for the new $225. for a half hour. I liked it better the other way and so did the girls. I really don&#039;t want to get propositioned for sex and now I fear they will hire girls who will do the whoring thing and fire my favorite. And the club gets $75 to "rent" the room. WTF happened to the pleasant days of dances and drinks.

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    Fuck the labels and dance. IMO.

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    Pandah, I think you misunderstood what I meant. I never would call any of the girls on here "whores". I was just stating the legal definition of prostitution for the city of Evansville, IN. Basically it states that if you are touched or touching a person in a sexual way, or that could be defined as sexually gratifing, then it&#039;s prostitution.

    Even though all the girls I work with grind for way more than 6 seconds, and Hell throw the 6 inch rule out the window; myself included.

    I don&#039;t call any of the girls where I work whores either, unless they deserve it. That list would include girls who let guys eat them out in the back room, girls who give BJ&#039;s/HJ&#039;s in the back room, girls who are getting finger fucked in the back room. There was even one girl who used to work there that got caught getting fucked back there. That is the stuff I PERSONALLY consider extras and whould define a girl in this area to be a whore.

    There are areas, where that is common place and therefore not considered extra.

    The point I was trying to make is that for this area, anything you do practically is being a whore if you are paid for it by the LEGAL definitions of the law here.

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