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    OK so yesterday I went t the local SC for like the 3rd time in 3 years w/ a buddy. Anyways I'n checking out this reallu cute dancer and get a table dance from her and it's all cool and I offer her a smoke, out of normal politeness, afterwards.

    So we talk about ourselves and she mentions she goes to school "X" for late evening business classes - so I though cool, she's going to school so she's not thinking of doing this stripping thing for too long. So since I go to school "x" too I told her yeah I'm taking a business class too for the summer (which it's true) and I ask her what teacher she got and she says Mrs N - and right there I know she was lying to me as I have my biz class with Mrs. N and my class is all she's teaching this summer.
    I know that for a fact - I work at school. ???(bear w me please)

    So I got bummed right there on the spot (and had no drinks inside me), and what I thought was gonna be a fun night was over and we went to a bar instead without getting another dance from her or anything (I tried to mask my dissapointment - I think I was successful but she wouldn't care anyways). I specially felt bad (for her mostly) that she was lying about going to school - education is something I value a lot.


    The funny thing is that I know I was beng kinda naive, I mean, dancers will never tell you their real names much less their #s on the club and that's ok, but I felt let down by being lied on this other thing too. It suprprised myself that I was affected so much by this.

    So now that my rage is over I wanna ask (please answer honestly) the dancers here if you really lie like that to get over the conversations and make the sale quickly, on things that you most likely get away with. This girl was unlucky this time - she lost a customer and my buddies will sure as hell know this so she lost more than 1 customer really (HA!). Should I expect dancers to lie to me on the future on such things??



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    Default Re:A dancer lied to me.... should I have expected it?

    Only when their lips are moving.

    And, on most other things, too.
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    I told a girl at a bar once that I work for the CIA. She was disappointed to find out that it was a lie the next morning.

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    How did she find out??? she worked for them too??

    SInce I'm south american I once told one I was a diplomat's son and I had my bodygaurds waiting for me outside the club, just in case - and I just stared long at her . She looked at me funny and wary and I couldn't keep it up and started laughing. I told her I was just playing with her - she was a sport.

    She told me afterwards that right there she got kinda scared and though I would not take no for an answer to an extra, what with me being a spoiled brat that get hookers delivered to his room every weekend by his powerful daddy back in his country.






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    Quote Originally Posted by joeRaven link=board=8;threadid=11615;start=msg147678#msg147 678 date=1091411491
    Should I expect dancers to lie to me on the future on such things??
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    WOW... any of you ladies willing to debunk this??

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    As you know, I'm sure, the only reason that dancers lie about their personal life/information is to keep themselves SAFE! I'm sure you were just making conversation when you asked what school she goes to and feel betrayed that she would lie to you. But what she's really thinking is, "What if this guy comes looking for me at school?", "what if he blows my cover and asks students 'Hey have you seen so-and-so...you know...the stripper??'". And indeed if you worked for the school that would seem much more dangerous, you may have access to her personal files, home address, phone #, real name, class schedual, etc. Strippers have to think defensivly when they're making chit chat. You really can not tell if a guy is a creepy stalker type by talking to him in the club, EVEN if he's a regular that you've given 1,000 lap dances to. Remember, the truely psychotic ones are always the most charming and "average" men. So please don't feel hurt if she lies to protect herself, it's nothing personal. Think about how you're making her job easier and safer by not trying to pry into her life. They're selling a fantasy, entertainment. Just accept what she tells you and enjoy yourself! That's what you're there for isn't it?
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    Yes, what Orchidbloom said. We are selling a FANTASY--we are there to entertain. A lot of people seem to forget that they are in a stripclub and not at a dating service. And the protection thing. It's not that entertainers believe that every customer is psycho, but we still like to be on the safe side, 'ya know?

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    There have been many occurances where a man has tried to follow a girl after getting off of work or creepily waiting outside the club or in the parking lot. There have also been several occurances of strippers being raped by those certain customers. So don't get steamed, these girls are only trying to keep themselves out of harms reach. Giving out information about where you can reach them when they're off work can leave them vulnrable to attacks. Most men aren't rapists or creeps but I'd rather be safe than sorry, wouldn't you?
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    I try to be honest with my customers but I don't understand why she lied..maybe to just carry on the conversation or to impress you. I wouldn't lie about something like that. For the most part I've been honest with the customers but I have lied when they asked me if I was interested in them when I really wasn't so they'd keep tipping me and letting me give them lap dances.

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    Right. I totally undestand the need to lie to protect yourself in your biz.

    The thing is, in this particular situation she had nothing to win security or privacy-wise by lying on the coversation subject. Recall that she was the one who mentioned she took this class - I didn't ask her (I asked her about the teacher tho).

    She is the one who potentially endangered herself by giving extra info to a potential creep. That leaves the only other reason for her to lie - to sell the fantasy you guys say you do. I personally don't think I am buying a fantasy when on a SC. Just a good time looking at beautiful naked chicks. (but that's just me )

    Maybe I was looking for honesty in a situation the status quo says you shouldn't expect it from. I have a very hard time with this concept. That's why I will NEVER work in sales.

    Anyways, thanx for the replies, it made me appreciate the level of paranoia you need to have be safe in this biz.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchid_Bloom link=board=8;threadid=11615;start=msg147769#msg147 769 date=1091420846
    There have been many occurances where a man has tried to follow a girl after getting off of work or creepily waiting outside the club or in the parking lot. There have also been several occurances of strippers being raped by those certain customers. So don't get steamed, these girls are only trying to keep themselves out of harms reach. Giving out information about where you can reach them when they're off work can leave them vulnrable to attacks. Most men aren't rapists or creeps but I'd rather be safe than sorry, wouldn't you?
    Yea,
    I forgot to also add that I don't let anyone know the exact university I go too or where I live at. I just tell them Maryland. I've had alot of customers wait outside the club for me..and once a customer began to follow me home! The parking lot isn't that big and there's a bouncer there so I was kept safe..

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    Default Re:A dancer lied to me.... should I have expected it?

    from my own experience, i'll tell you this...

    there's a good chance she is, in fact, taking classes with a different teacher, or at a different school, or has done so in the past.

    i'm honest with guys about my major, but i lie about my school. it's a safety thing.

    now, maybe she was completely BSing you, but i would never want to risk getting called on a lie completely. that is, i don't say something about myself unless i can back it up. like, i'd never say i'm a math major, cos i suck at math, you know?

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    Default Re:A dancer lied to me.... should I have expected it?

    Maybe she IS in your class and you just can't recognise her... Or maybe she's that guy you've seen around and know as Bob...

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    I dont blame the girl for lying to you. She doesn't know you and she dosen't know the real reason you were prying so deep into her personal life.
    Too many risks involved with dancers giving out personal information about themselves to customers.
    I don't think you did anything to earn her trust, so she didn't owe you any personal information.

    If you want to meet women and learn their personal information in the same night, you should be going to singles bars, not stripclubs! Women in singles bars may be looking for a new friend, most women working in stripclubs are looking to make money.
    Can you see the difference?
    Would you be as equally upset to learn that your favorite singer's name is not their real name? Or that you favorite author writes under a pen-name? C'mon dude, see it for what it is...entertainment!
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    She may have been at that school, since she knows the professor. She probably just wanted to make conversation. Sometimes, it takes too long to say "well, I'm only going to school every other semester for blah blah" and have to explain yourself.

    Don't take it personally!

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    A dancer lied to me.... should I have expected it?
    I stopped reading at this point.

    No, dude...you're different from all the rest of us assholes who waltz in there.
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    Per all of the safety issues mentioned earlier, I have come to expect very little accuracy in the personal information a dancer tells you.

    Having a SC conversation is different than being at a normal party or club setting. When you meet someone at the local bar and they say they are taking classes, you're normal follow questions would be where? what professor? etc. You might even ask the person where they're from, blah, blah, blah. Typical get to know ya BS. In a SC you can't really use this line of questions, because dancers have to be able to protect their personal live. Heck from the moment she meets you, she give you a stage name! When a dancer tells me she's taking classes the most I'll ask is what subject she's studying and see if the conversation can carry from there. I've learned to not bother inquiring the school or the specific class, even if she happens to mention the same college I went to.

    Don't get twisted in a knot for a girl trying to sell you a fantasy. It's suposed to be a fantasy. Once you consider all the s#!t dancers have to put up with from every other backwards F#$! on the planet, you'll appreciate the fact that she's smart enough to protect herself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Queen link=board=8;threadid=11615;start=msg147839#msg147 839 date=1091441306

    I dont blame the girl for lying to you. She doesn't know you and she dosen't know the real reason you were prying so deep into her personal life.
    Too many risks involved with dancers giving out personal information about themselves to customers.
    I don't think you did anything to earn her trust, so she didn't owe you any personal information.

    If you want to meet women and learn their personal information in the same night, you should be going to singles bars, not stripclubs!

    Yup!!!

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    She may very well be in school. But, sometimes during the summer months, customers think that dancers have "so much more free time" on their hands. It's easier to "lie" and let the customer think that you are egads busy and will not have time for anything outside the club. It cuts the date requests down a bit. This may have been the case. Or, does your school offer correspondence courses? She may have the prof for this particular class and be doing the class online? Or, as mentioned earlier, she is dressing down for the class and you just didn't recognize her.

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    I lie about school. I go to a small college five minutes from my house, but I tell the customers that I go to a large college nearer the club. Who cares?

    Also, how would she know that teachers name/class if she doesn't go to that school?



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    We lie to protect ourselves; you never know what could happen regardless of the cutomer or how long you know him. It's likely that she is in school, since most girls will rarely stray from something similar to the truth because it makes for bad conversation if you don't know what you're talking about. I tell people I went to a different school that I really did but in the same city so I at least know something about the atmosphere but everything about what I'm studying. The important part is usually the knowledge I acquired, not the when and where.
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    If I had a dollar for everytime a dancer told me a fibber...

    ...well, I could afford a very nice trip to the club to hear more lies.

    Of course, if I had to give a dollar everytime I fibbed back, well...


    People on both sides of the tip rail put on a facade to keep their club lives out of their home lives. I can't blame dancers for fibbing a bit for security reasons. I do it sometimes too.
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    Hell yeah, dancers lie I make a game out of it. I try to come up with some outrageous stuff and test my improv skills to see how far I can convince the guys of my stories. I think tonight I will be a seminary student. I usually am a run away wife from a biker gang or a mafia family etc. Once I was a morman who was forced into marriage at the age of 14 to a 50 year old man who already had 3 other wives.

    This is entertaining to me, tests my acting skills, gives the customers something fun to think about, and is very entertaining.

    I haven't tried being foriegn yet. I need to get an accent on and try being german or russian for a night, that should be fun. I did have a customer convinced that I was indeed african american (there are white people in africa, ya know) and that my parents emigrated from south africa before I was born.

    The stip club is all about having a good time and enjoying it for what it is. Whenever I've been called out I own up to it and claim acting is my hobby.



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    If dancers know you they dispense with the lies thank god. Theres no point in SS.

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