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    a female aquaintance wrote me a few emails about me being a stripper. here are some of the more judgemental exerpts...


    being paid as nothing but a sex object would break my heart. i couldnt do it. i dont think its wrong, i just need more respect than that. i hope it works out really well for you though.

    i do respect myself. which is why i would never make money from my sexuality. i'm better than that


    of course i couldnt do it. i'm worth more than just a cheap sexual thrill.
    and i dont look down on you. i just think you're worth more than that too.

    its nothing to do with sexual shame. its about selling sexuality. its about letting it be nothing more than a product. thats degrading and cheapening sexuality and prepetuating the attitudes developed by men that females are merely objects. you're not some modern neo-feminist. you dont need to pretend you are. you're going to what you do regardless, and i hope it brings you happiness. but dont kid yourself you're marching in the female sexuality pride parade. who are you trying to convince really?

    i'm glad you're doing something thats going to be a great career, and like i said i hope it makes you happy. honestly.


    i just like being able to say i'll have a good career that makes me happy without having to sell my sexuality to get there. it keeps me warm and feeling good about myself at night.


    im so flustered right now i dont know how to reply.
    what would you say to a person who said that to you?
    i guess nothing i say will change her mind. i like my job most of the time and i dont allow men at work to degrade me and i dont do anything i am uncomfortable with. but its really hard for me to deal with other womens judging me. what if she is right?

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    Wow. That's awful. She's a real supporter, huh.

    It sounds like she isn't comfortable with her own sexuality. Along the lines of "you have to love yourself before you can love anybody else." Well, you have to be comfortable with your own sexuality to accept that of others.



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    that makes sense.
    she is a 21 year old virgin. not for religious reasons, either. i think she just has issues with sexuality.

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    Default Re:" i just think you're worth more than what you do"

    Under the Articles section check out Stripper is NOT a dirty word. You might want to send part of that to her.

    Edited to add: My best friend is the same way, although not a virgin and not so overtly against it. It sucks not to have support there.



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    Default Re:" i just think you're worth more than what you do"

    Ugh... some what condescending if you ask me.
    Quote Originally Posted by stripper83 link=board=27;threadid=11949;start=msg153268#msg15 3268 date=1092097096
    being paid as nothing but a sex object would break my heart. i couldnt do it. i dont think its wrong, i just need more respect than that. i hope it works out really well for you though.

    i do respect myself. which is why i would never make money from my sexuality. i'm better than that
    it&#039;s not like you are in an office setting, giving blow jobs to move your way up. You impowered yourself in this career... It&#039;s a job >.<

    WTF is wrong with sexuality anyways? sheesh.. Is it ok to make money as an athlete? is it ok to make money because you have good typing skills? in the end, it&#039;s simply a means to an end - money, just a tool to do what we want to in life.

    Honestly, I don&#039;t think the email deserves a reply. No explanation is needed.

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    i KNOW im should just be the bigger person and ignor her - but i feel like i have to defend myself and what i do beause its totally misunderstood and not the worst thing i could be doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stripper83 link=board=27;threadid=11949;start=msg153268#msg15 3268 date=1092097096
    a female aquaintance wrote me a few emails about me being a stripper. here are some of the more judgemental exerpts...


    being paid as nothing but a sex object would break my heart. i couldnt do it. i dont think its wrong, i just need more respect than that. i hope it works out really well for you though.

    i do respect myself. which is why i would never make money from my sexuality. i&#039;m better than that


    of course i couldnt do it. i&#039;m worth more than just a cheap sexual thrill.
    and i dont look down on you. i just think you&#039;re worth more than that too.

    its nothing to do with sexual shame. its about selling sexuality. its about letting it be nothing more than a product. thats degrading and cheapening sexuality and prepetuating the attitudes developed by men that females are merely objects. you&#039;re not some modern neo-feminist. you dont need to pretend you are. you&#039;re going to what you do regardless, and i hope it brings you happiness. but dont kid yourself you&#039;re marching in the female sexuality pride parade. who are you trying to convince really?

    i&#039;m glad you&#039;re doing something thats going to be a great career, and like i said i hope it makes you happy. honestly.


    i just like being able to say i&#039;ll have a good career that makes me happy without having to sell my sexuality to get there. it keeps me warm and feeling good about myself at night.


    im so flustered right now i dont know how to reply.
    what would you say to a person who said that to you?
    i guess nothing i say will change her mind. i like my job most of the time and i dont allow men at work to degrade me and i dont do anything i am uncomfortable with. but its really hard for me to deal with other womens judging me. what if she is right?
    ignorant and naive...

    I&#039;m ashamed to say that I actually SHARED this persons point of view until I actually DID IT. I hope she&#039;s not your best friend, because then it&#039;ll be easier to blow off her opinion, which is what I think you should do. Unless she&#039;s walked a mile in your shoes, she&#039;s in NO place to be judgemental.

    again: ignorant, and naive...

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    Don&#039;t say anything. I&#039;m sorry someone is laying this trip on you. How peanut brained. It&#039;s people like her who are afraid of life (21 yr old female virgin?) that never reach real happiness because they don&#039;t want to understand life outside of their own sphere, take big risks, or go through high and low to find what they want.
    Friends and family will often put up protestations about stripping because there is a real component of risk involved, but once enough time passes and more good than bad comes of the job, they accept it. Good luck.

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    I am afraid I have to agree with Pan Dah&#039;s response . . . .
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    Default Re:" i just think you're worth more than what you do"

    It would clearly be wrong for her to do it, but that doesn&#039;t make it wrong for you to do it. Just because she would feel degraded by it doesn&#039;t mean you would.

    Even if stripping were degrading, I don&#039;t think being degraded for a while is the end of the world. My point isn&#039;t that stripping is or isn&#039;t degrading but that I don&#039;t understand that view that you&#039;re POISONED and will never again enjoy life or love or self-respect (which is defined by WHOM?) because of stripping.

    If it is degrading, I should be degraded to death by having done it on and off for 25 years, instead of having the time of my life.

    So many people hate their jobs and feel degraded by them that it&#039;s hardly fair to single out stripping as the most degrading and hate-able job.

    I&#039;m not sure that this person can help the way she feels, but I think there&#039;s a chance you&#039;ll feel better if you don&#039;t continue the conversation.

    She&#039;s wrong.
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    Worth more than what? Tell her to take it to the church and blow it out her a$$ -if she&#039;s not paying your rent, car insurance, buying you groceries, and helping you elevate yourself financially-she has no business telling you about sexuality and how to live your life. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stripper83 link=board=27;threadid=11949;start=msg153268#msg15 3268 date=1092097096

    im so flustered right now i dont know how to reply.
    what would you say to a person who said that to you?
    i guess nothing i say will change her mind. i like my job most of the time and i dont allow men at work to degrade me and i dont do anything i am uncomfortable with. but its really hard for me to deal with other womens judging me. what if she is right?
    What would I say? Why do I care how she feels? She has the right to speak her mind, but it doesn&#039; t mean you have to listen to anything she says. IF you are happy, that&#039;s all that counts. Screw what she or anyone else has to say.. they aren&#039;t you- and that&#039;s the point.

    What would I say? Nothing at all. Its not worth my time.


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    WTF?

    How presumptious of this person to think they know more than you do, especially in a field that is sexual in nature when her own experience is lacking.

    Bizarre.

    WTF?!?!

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    You just need to tell your friend.......that she needs to remind her Husband or boyfriend tip you better at the club next time. And then see what she says!!!

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    Sexuality is sold ALL the time. In every way, in every medium. We&#039;re just more honest about it because we don&#039;t disguise it by packaging a soda can with a straw (phallic symbol) leading seductively up into the lusciously painted lips of a hot model. We are overtly selling sexuality and that&#039;s what makes biatches like this uncomfortable. Did you know that Coca-Cola uses the shape of a woman&#039;s body on their coke machines? Look carefully at the shape of the ice and the curve of the swishy line. Talk about subliminal messages. A rep from Coca-Cola actually pointed that out during a presentation in one of my business classes.

    So tell your acquaintence that every time she buys a soda she&#039;s contributing to the sexual objectification of women. Then tell her to f*ck off.

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    "Just reply...well, I am glad that you acknowledged all of the reasons that you feel this type of work is not for you. Good luck in whatever job you feel you would benefit the most from!"

    Nothing else really matters. This email was not about you or aimed at you...it&#039;s all about her...just let it go at that.

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    The most amusing thing about it is that it&#039;s a customer saying it.

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    Uh....this is an acquaintance? Why reply at all? Why give a crap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess link=board=27;threadid=11949;start=msg153445#msg15 3445 date=1092118728
    "Just reply...well, I am glad that you acknowledged all of the reasons that you feel this type of work is not for you. Good luck in whatever job you feel you would benefit the most from!"

    Nothing else really matters. This email was not about you or aimed at you...it&#039;s all about her...just let it go at that.
    I am 100% in agreement with Venus on this one. There is the option to ignore her, but I can see how that feels wrong. Acknowledge her feelings as hers, and at the same time remember that is all they are.
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    Tell her to hit the gym and Jenny Craig... then she&#039;ll feel differently.

    Seems a bitter irony that the women crying &#039;sexual objectification!&#039; are always the ones with absolutely NO worry of this ever happening to them.
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    Default Re:" i just think you're worth more than what you do"

    being paid as nothing but a sex object would break my heart. i couldnt do it. i dont think its wrong, i just need more respect than that. i hope it works out really well for you though.

    i do respect myself. which is why i would never make money from my sexuality. i&#039;m better than that


    of course i couldnt do it. i&#039;m worth more than just a cheap sexual thrill.
    and i dont look down on you. i just think you&#039;re worth more than that too.

    its nothing to do with sexual shame. its about selling sexuality. its about letting it be nothing more than a product. thats degrading and cheapening sexuality and prepetuating the attitudes developed by men that females are merely objects. you&#039;re not some modern neo-feminist. you dont need to pretend you are. you&#039;re going to what you do regardless, and i hope it brings you happiness. but dont kid yourself you&#039;re marching in the female sexuality pride parade. who are you trying to convince really?

    i&#039;m glad you&#039;re doing something thats going to be a great career, and like i said i hope it makes you happy. honestly.


    i just like being able to say i&#039;ll have a good career that makes me happy without having to sell my sexuality to get there. it keeps me warm and feeling good about myself at night.
    That is so tortured.

    Quote Originally Posted by polecat link=board=27;threadid=11949;start=msg153554#msg15 3554 date=1092138124
    Tell her to hit the gym and Jenny Craig... then she&#039;ll feel differently.

    Seems a bitter irony that the women crying &#039;sexual objectification!&#039; are always the ones with absolutely NO worry of this ever happening to them.
    That was one theory that I had. Another was that she is attractive and wears attire to her respectable mainstream job that emphasizes her femininity. She knows that dressing that way gets her attention from men, but doesn&#039;t want to acknowledge that she&#039;s playing a more subtle version of the same game that a sex worker plays.

    In either case, that whole self-righteous passage is about herself. She&#039;s trying to bump her self esteem north by putting strippers to the south of her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish link=board=27;threadid=11949;start=msg153588#msg15 3588 date=1092144667
    That was one theory that I had. Another was that she is attractive and wears attire to her respectable mainstream job that emphasizes her femininity. She knows that dressing that way gets her attention from men, but doesn&#039;t want to acknowledge that she&#039;s playing a more subtle version of the same game that a sex worker plays.

    In either case, that whole self-righteous passage is about herself. She&#039;s trying to bump her self esteem north by putting strippers to the south of her.
    Well, IMHO, I believe that it sounds a lot like a girl who is torn about the "morality" of dancing and the desire to do so. I cannot tell you how many times I have heard these same things...and yet, in most cases, the girl WANTS to dance...not insult her friend but get "support" in dancing and that it&#039;s not a bad thing...etc, etc, etc. Doesn&#039;t sound like she&#039;s bashing...just trying to justify WHY she&#039;s not dancing...or get support in the "You won&#039;t lose Self-respect if you dance" department.

    Just be nice about it. Realize that everyone&#039;s view of the world is through their own eyes...and a reflection of how they view themselves.

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    That pisses me off,just like when a customer asks why the hell is a girl like me in this type of business. It&#039;s as though SOME people think strippers are all poor souls who need to be rescued out of our degrading little job because we don&#039;t "know any better". Oh yea or when your supposed "supporter" uses it againt you in an argument. I agree that she may have some type of issue. It&#039;s one thing to have an opinion... but she wrote a whole sermon that was mostly based on how well SHE was in her life and HER supposed self satisfaction. It didn&#039;t sound like a genuine concern for you. Anyway I would not mention anything to this woman she may need to feel better about herself by the condemation of you. Do not give this lady any more fuel

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    Everything everyone said covered my thoughts on this one. Never take it personal. I recommend validating her feelings thanking her for her concern. Then remind her that hers and everyones sins are judged and healed through faith. Ask her to keep you in her prayers. Play along and see where she takes her issue. In other words, she is confused about the stripping buisness and her sexuality so dont take her seriously.
    "Peter, did you take Stewie to a strip-club? He smells like sweat and fear." - Lois and Stewie (Family Guy) ... "Through early morning fog I see, Visions of the things to be, The pains that are withheld for me, I realize and I can see..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan Dah link=board=27;threadid=11949;start=msg153284#msg15 3284 date=1092097926
    Quote Originally Posted by stripper83 link=board=27;threadid=11949;start=msg153268#msg15 3268 date=1092097096
    a female aquaintance wrote me a few emails about me being a stripper.

    what would you say to a person who said that to you?
    Absolutely nothing.

    Ever.
    Exactly. Why waste your time w/ someone who doesn&#039;t respect you and has issues w/ herself. Her rant sounds like she&#039;s trying to turn her own issues into something rightous.
    ...and the day came, when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became worse than the risk it took to blossom.

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