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    im switching to a club that has strict 6 inch rules for lap dancing. having spent ALL of my dancing career in san diego, so "lap dance" to me means lots of grinding and one way touching. so what would you do for a lap dance INSTEAD? and how can you get guys to buy them initially and get them to buy repeats?

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    What is key is finding a club where the customers are TRAINED to buy dances. A club with momentum where the DJ keeps it pumped up and pushes dances and during every song various guys on the floor are buying dances.

    Guys spend money on dances the most where they feel a sense of obligation to buy them. If a guy walks into a club he's never been in before and all the dancers are approaching all the guys for dances and lots of guys sitting around him are buying dances regardless of the amount of contact, he will most likely buy dances too.

    Monkey see monkey do. If your no contact club has no floor momentum chances are dances will be hard to sell.

    Just look at Arizona clubs. They have 6 inch rules but have lots of floor momentum and cheaper dances so most guys buy them.

    When did San Diego have contact lap dances? That city has some of the strictest no contact rules in the country.

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    Default Re:no contact lap dances?

    the nude clubs in san diego dont abide by contact rules at all.

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    6" rule? That's nothing!

    Here in MA, many clubs have a 3' rule.

    Being a customer, visiting a no-contact club will be effected by the availability of other alternatives. For me, most of the places around here are no-contact, but it's only a 40 min drive to RI for a dozen clubs that offer medium contact. Of the 10 clubs in my area of MA, 2-3 of them are a little more relaxed about the no contact rules, while others are VERY strict. If the only thing available in the area you work in are no contact clubs, you'll probably do better than if you're in an area where contact might be only a short drive away.

    To be honest, many of the dancers at the truly no contact clubs I've been to depend on the stage for most of their income.

    I guess I'd have to know if you really can't touch at all. 6" doesn't seem to be that far way. Seems like a dancer could still provide a fairly interesting dance while still staying within those parameters.

    Some girls will be able to sell dances no matter how far away they have to stand, but usually creativity will be important. For example, if you have long hair, you can use it to drape over the customers and brush them gently with it - usually not considered contact. Also you may be able to use no contact techniques like wispering, gently blowing, or moaning into the ear of your customer.

    One dancer I know of who works in a no contact club, brings a bucket of ice with her to the private dance area and gives her customers a show by rubbing ice over herself. She makes no contact, but has found a way to be visually stimulating.

    Is the club all nude or topless? There's another dancer I know who works in a topless no contact club. She commonly wears a pink g-string string under her white thong. In the middle of her dance she looks at the customer and slowly moves her hand down over her thong and gets the customer thinking he's going to see something, then she moves the white thong to show the pink g-string underneath.

    Hope these provided a few ideas for you.

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    Default Re:no contact lap dances?

    Quote Originally Posted by stripper83 link=board=25;threadid=12161;start=msg156469#msg15 6469 date=1092525392
    im switching to a club that has strict 6 inch rules for lap dancing. having spent ALL of my dancing career in san diego, so "lap dance" to me means lots of grinding and one way touching. so what would you do for a lap dance INSTEAD? and how can you get guys to buy them initially and get them to buy repeats?
    I could say that its a good thing Im 7" LOL Actually I think the rule is 6 feet not 6 inches.

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    Go to Cheetah's in San Diego for some reaaaaallly blatant rule-breaking. The place is a mob-run whorehouse, and everyone in town knows it.

    Twoleftfeet told me about a friend of hers worked there once and saw a girl complaining because her customer was fingerbanging her TOO HARD! WTF!?!?!?

    "Oh, sweetie, now don't do that so hard! I'm having 7 other customers fingerbang me tonight after you, so don't wear the coochie out!" Nasty shit.
    "She has written so well, and marvellously well, that I was completely ashamed of myself as a writer...But this girl, who is to my knowledge very unpleasant and we might even say a high-grade bitch, can write rings around all of us who consider ourselves as writers"

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    Default Re:no contact lap dances?

    Quote Originally Posted by NinaDaisy link=board=25;threadid=12161;start=msg156563#msg15 6563 date=1092539167
    "Oh, sweetie, now don't do that so hard! I'm having 7 other customers fingerbang me tonight after you, so don't wear the coochie out!" Nasty shit.
    Um, i know this is off topic, but fingerbanging? That's supposed to be a turn on? WTF???

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    Default Re:no contact lap dances?

    Define contact for me please. I thought it meant you get to touch the dancer.

    Does it mean the dancer dances on you or what?
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    Ahhh,I see that you have experienced the world's most sucky city for strip clubs.The new 6 inch rule should be a prayer answered for you in that case.
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    Contact means the customer gets to touch the dancer. Sure contact does come from dancers as well, but the posts are mainly about contact, and the customer with hands inside thighs, grabbing breasts, and also a dancer grinding, all forms of contact, and high contact when tit are played with. Grinding i see as medium contact, here it pretty much seems the norm.

    LOL, grinding is pretty much a dancer dancing on your crotch...yes.

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    Default Re:no contact lap dances?

    Quote Originally Posted by big_daddy link=board=25;threadid=12161;start=msg156591#msg15 6591 date=1092550843
    Define contact for me please. I thought it meant you get to touch the dancer.

    Does it mean the dancer dances on you or what?
    Quote Originally Posted by Pamela link=board=25;threadid=12161;start=msg156671#msg15 6671 date=1092576410
    Contact means the customer gets to touch the dancer. Sure contact does come from dancers as well, but the posts are mainly about contact, and the customer with hands inside thighs, grabbing breasts, and also a dancer grinding, all forms of contact, and high contact when tit are played with. Grinding i see as medium contact, here it pretty much seems the norm.
    I might be in the minority here, but to me, "contact" makes reference to any sort of contact, however slight, whether it be the dancer touching customer only or full two-way touching.

    The term "no contact" seems quite self explanatory, esspecially when feet and inches enter the discussion. (Where do you think they get the "air" in an air dance from?) In fact, if there's absolutely no contact whatsoever, you really can't call it a "lap dance".

    But enough word splitting over terminology.

    Quote Originally Posted by stripper83 link=board=25;threadid=12161;start=msg156469#msg15 6469 date=1092525392
    im switching to a club that has strict 6 inch rules for lap dancing. having spent ALL of my dancing career in san diego, so "lap dance" to me means lots of grinding and one way touching. so what would you do for a lap dance INSTEAD? and how can you get guys to buy them initially and get them to buy repeats?
    With other clubs in your area offering contact dances (albeit illegal ones), and Tijuana close by, your work is definitely cut out for you. My best advice is to develop a steady stream of regular customers who like you for your looks, stage presence, or personality, and don't really care that the dances are lacking in mileage. If you're a good socializer, and/or exceptionally attractive thats a point in your favor.
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    Agree with you Doc, i see 3 levels of contact, light, medium and heavy. Heavy is out of the question for me. But again, grinding ld's to some are considered heavy contact while a man has his hands on my thighs, or will squeeze my ass cheeks.

    Light contact i was, i graduated, heavy...well that crosses the line into hj's and all the "extras" involved.

    I am satisfied doing the ld's i do. Some may argue that this is "heavy" contact, that's fine. I touch, they touch. Not Private areas however no. Ok my ass, lol.

    No contact here in my neck of the woods makes for much less $$.
    I always tell a customer before a dance what he will and will not get, so he better hear me!

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    Default Re:no contact lap dances?

    I'm still trying to figure out why inserting one's finger into a perfect stranger's bodily orafices is something to get a hard-on over. ???

    I just can't seem to get over THAT hump.

    ???

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    You are a very good customer Madcap, when i first started dancing a man tried to get his fingers inside me, so i stopped ld's for along long time because of him.

    And well, some guys get real turned on fingering a woman to climax, stranger or not, if the attraction is there. I say YUK...Nasty, PUKE.

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    Default Re:no contact lap dances?

    I don't even like my man "finger banging" that is just wrong to have some stranger's dirty nasty fingers up there! ugh

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    In places where the guys are allowed to feel the dancers' asses, attempts to finger and possibly even "finger-bang" are much more frequent, especially if other dancers are allowing it in VIP. A very large proportion of men simply cannot restrain their hands if they are already caressing--or more accurately, groping--a scant few inches away.

    The whole issue of extras and higher contact has become much more important since the advent of grinding lap dances, especially those with two-way contact. Unfortunately, most men cannot help but want more if their dicks are getting rubbed, even indirectly through fabric. Allowing them the privilege of touching the dancer during the process is bound to create yet higher expectations.

    I used to think I would like to open a club, a prospect which has become a lot less appealing as of late. If I did, there would be no contact whatsoever in VIP. Customers would pay for the privilege of watching women dance.

    Naturally, in many areas of the country, realizing a profit in such a club would be completely impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap link=board=25;threadid=12161;start=msg156574#msg15 6574 date=1092542557
    Um, i know this is off topic, but fingerbanging? That's supposed to be a turn on? WTF???
    We've now established that you don't like touching vaginas. Just wondering what parts of a woman you do enjoy touching.

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    Default Re:no contact lap dances?

    Not the body cavities, not with a goddamn finger. That's revolting. For starters, what's to say my finger isn't going to be met with a fucking bloody tampon? That's for starters. A lot of these girls also have husbands, what's to say there aren't "leftovers" up there? Ugh.

    As if it's really any of your buisiness.

    P.S. One thing i learned from this thread: NEVER shake hands with a guy at a SC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser link=board=25;threadid=12161;start=msg156807#msg15 6807 date=1092598415
    In places where the guys are allowed to feel the dancers' asses, attempts to finger and possibly even "finger-bang" are much more frequent, especially if other dancers are allowing it in VIP. A very large proportion of men simply cannot restrain their hands if they are already caressing--or more accurately, groping--a scant few inches away.

    The whole issue of extras and higher contact has become much more important since the advent of grinding lap dances, especially those with two-way contact. Unfortunately, most men cannot help but want more if their dicks are getting rubbed, even indirectly through fabric. Allowing them the privilege of touching the dancer during the process is bound to create yet higher expectations.

    I used to think I would like to open a club, a prospect which has become a lot less appealing as of late. If I did, there would be no contact whatsoever in VIP. Customers would pay for the privilege of watching women dance.

    Naturally, in many areas of the country, realizing a profit in such a club would be completely impossible.

    Of course they can control themselves; they're making a conscious choice not to.

    SC customers are like little children in the respect that they loooooove to test boundaries. You give them and inch, they take a fucking mile.

    You have a dancer giving a nude or topless air dance, he tries to maybe touch your legs a little...ooooh, naughty boy! That's what happens at the Bush Company. You still get a few idiots that try to grind, they don't listen when you tell them they don't have to do that to make money there.

    You let them touch your arms and legs during a table dance, they'll try to grab your boobs.

    You have a dancer giving a grinding lap dance where he can let his hands roam free, and the guy will try a lot more.

    I dislike any 2 way contact at all but a few clubs that I've worked in and made money I've had to allow some moderate contact to make money (touching back, legs, arms). I've worked at 2 high-contact clubs for one night each and not only did I not make money (I guess they guys could smell fear, or whatever) but was just grossed out by it.

    Again, I have nothing against dancers who choose to do high-contact, especially if it's pretty much the only option in your area (ex. So. Fla.). I just know that I've tried it and can't do it.
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    I'm still trying to figure out why inserting one's finger into a perfect stranger's bodily orafices is something to get a hard-on over. ???

    I just can't seem to get over THAT hump.
    Sure. I can't understand why people derive pleasure from having clamps on sensitive places, from having money taken from their pockets, from having objects pushed into their rectum, from acting like a horse, from .... well, you get the idea. But I don't puzzle over it. I just assume that it's a big, wide, wonderful world out there, with all different kinds of people turned on by all different kinds of things.

    But to answer the questions more directly:

    It's a turn-on because it's getting to another base. Because it's getting more intimate. Because the Jade Gate has gotten a little closer - if he got that far, maybe he'll get farther. Because the wetter she is, the more the guy thinks she's excited. Because it's another step in the Quest for Conquest.

    If it's unhygienic, so are a lot of other things. French kissing, I'll submit, would be even more so, but it seems to turn people on, too. Some people can't stand the thought of any breach of hygiene. Some people can stand huge breaches. I had a dancer smack me across the face with her breast, and I got grossed out by the smear of saliva left by a previous customer. But other customers might not have minded.

    I'm not defending this action in a strip club. I play by the rules that the club and the dancer lay down for me. It makes me happy to be courteous and not push. It probably gives other guys a thrill to see how much they can push.

    As for whether she likes it - well, if the lady who drives the other car in the garage didn't like my fingers on/around/in her genitals, I'd keep them away. It turns out that if I do things right, she enjoys it quite a bit. Since she enjoys it quite a bit, so do I. It becomes a definite turn-on. So I don't want to appear hypocritical. I enjoy picking those locks, too.

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    I'm still trying to figure out why inserting one's finger into a perfect stranger's bodily orafices is something to get a hard-on over.

    I just can't seem to get over THAT hump.
    Well, when I was working at the peep show, I'd have guys come in all the time who would make tongue-faces at me or tell me over the phone how much they wanted to go down on me. Why? Does it really turn them on to go down on a woman? My feelings on this -- in both cases -- is that guys (actually, doesn't everybody?) get turned on by the idea that they are turning their partner on. It isn't just about sitting there are being "serviced," but also about conquest and validation and all that stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AutumnLeaves link=board=25;threadid=12161;start=msg157536#msg15 7536 date=1092701207
    Why? Does it really turn them on to go down on a woman?
    Actually, it is a turn on. Dunno if i'd be telling to to a perfect stranger, keep in mind, but it's a regular part of sex for me.

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    Madcap, bud, I'm confused.

    Finger involvement is revolting to you - might hit a tampon - but tongue involvement is not? Ummmmmm........

    I mean, they're both good as far as I'm concerned, so carry on, sport - but if you can press her g-spot with your tongue, I bow to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno link=board=25;threadid=12161;start=msg157692#msg15 7692 date=1092718795
    Madcap, bud, I'm confused.

    Finger involvement is revolting to you - might hit a tampon - but tongue involvement is not? Ummmmmm........

    I mean, they're both good as far as I'm concerned, so carry on, sport - but if you can press her g-spot with your tongue, I bow to you.
    As i said, not with a perfect stranger. I'm talking about this in relation to STRIP CLUBS (That was what i was talking about all along, Jay, that IS the website we are on after all). I am talking about sticking fingers and tongues on DANCERS. And poking my FINGER in just isn't a turn on even with a regular sex partner, i find the idea of doing it to someone i don't even know disgusting.

    Also, my tongue isn't going inside her, and if it's, as i said, a regular part of sex there is obviously not going to be a tampon in there.

    Cunnalingus is a very sexual, that is why they call is "oral sex" after all.

    EDIT: Hey, why are my SEXUAL habits so important to the GUYS in this thread?

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