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    Lately I've noticed that I've been getting the bare minimum from guys. They'll give me $20 for a $15.00 dance and ask for change. At stage they'll give me $1-$2/song... etc. etc. What I don't understand is that a lot of the time the guys will tell me how great I'm doing, how much they want me, how they love red heads, etc. etc. I even had one guy say he hadn't had a girl excite him in in years and he still paid me the minimum for 3 songs! I don't know what is wrong!! I'll talk to the other dancers about the same guy and they'll get $10-$30 more than me off the same guy!

    Then, the most bizarre thing happened. This one day I HAD to go in and open and I was SO SICK. I had a fever, cold sweats, stuffed nose, etc. the last thing i wanted to do was give these creeps attention. and EVERYONE wanted dances. It was so bogus. I didn't ask a single person for a dance and I stage danced like a moron and I left with $200 working 4-9 on a Monday. I had one guy tip me $25.00 over the course of three songs on stage. I would say 70% of the guys asked me for a dance that night, and I didn't ask any of them if they wanted another, etc. etc. they just couldn't get enough of me! It was so stupid. I was so pissed! I almost fell off stage one time I was so sick it made me naseaus to stand up!

    I was wondering if any of you have gone through these droughts. I'm considering making myself sick just to get an extra ten or so off these creeps.

    please tell me what's going on. I need to spice up my lap dances. I think I don't tease them enough or something. It's true that if you give someone a lot of what they want they won't appriciate it as much, but this is stupid.

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    Default Re:bizarre--getting tips...

    Hey Voodoo, same thing used to happen to me! I used to joke with my boyfriend that I felt really sick, and he would say, good then you'll make a lot of money tonight.

    Maybe your voice gets huskier, or you move slower, and thereby give the guys a better chance to catch up with you. Who knows. Or start being a little more meek and submissive, that will work in some kinds of clubs. Also, if you are really sick, you might not look as fantastic as you normally would. then guys might find you to be more in their leauge.

    Ever wonder why the "just average looking" girl is always cleaning up, when the hotties have to hustle thier asses off? Maybe it is the "I've get a chance with her" mentality.


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    I agree, if you were sick you prolly seemed more vulnerable and therefore more approachable. If you are really good looking it can work against you. The ugliest (I'm talking dwn-right homely here people) GIRL AT MY CLUB IS the highest paid. I still haven't figured it out. Interested in hearing others replies.

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    I'm a real redhead with freckles. Not skinny, but I have great breasts. I'm definately not the hottest stripper out there UNLESS you're into red heads.

    I'm not really loud or pushy normally, either. People usually talk about how quiet I am.

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    Default Re:bizarre--getting tips...

    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo link=board=9;threadid=12248;start=msg157915#msg157 915 date=1092764652
    the last thing i wanted to do was give these creeps attention.

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    I&#039;m considering making myself sick just to get an extra ten or so off these creeps.

    please tell me what&#039;s going on.
    Well, perhaps trying hard not to view your customers as creeps might be a step in the right direction . They are probably sensing your aversion to them and arent feeling overly motivated to be extra generous towards you.

    Who knows why the customers all wanted you when you were ill. I wouldnt think that a dancer with a runny nose, watery eyes and sweating with fever would be overly attractive. Maybe it was a full moon or something.

    Good luck anyways.

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    I was wondering if you talk a lot normally and while you were sick if you just were silent. A lot of guys would rather have no conversation. Why? It ruins the fantasy that we creeps may actually have a shot with a hot red head with great tits.

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    hey now, come on. Sorry I used the words creeps, but that&#039;s what they felt like when I was sick. I didn&#039;t want to get out of bed let alone shower, shave, go to work and dance!

    Honestly I usually enjoy most of the customers that come in and chatting with them is nice. I don&#039;t think you guys are perverts or creeps simply for going to strip clubs, I just think that there are a lot of the guys that frequent strip clubs are creepy. There seemed to be a higher volume of them where I used to work. I enjoy what I do. If I didn&#039;t I wouldn&#039;t spend so much of my time doing it and being here on these boards. I&#039;m sorry for the use of language.

    And no, I&#039;m not as outgoing as 90% of the strippers out there. I can be with the right guy, but a lot of the time I keep to myself.

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    You didnt say anything wrong, voodoo. My only point was that if your vibes are telling the customers that you think they are creeps it could be impacting your earnings. Based on what Ive read here on the pinkie site Im sure there are lots of dancers who feel exactly that way but they have learned to hide it well.

    Sounds like youre in a slump not necessarily due to anything youve done I guess. It happens in all walks of life...sports, sales, personal interactions whatever. You probably just need a couple of great money nights to get your spirits back up again. I know from when I was in sales, nothing is better than a big order to get you fired up for the next potential customer.

    Another thing, since you say you pretty much keep to yourself, you might want to work on your customer b/s skills. Most guys (but not all) like a woman who can chat them up. Its called Stripper Shit or SS for short. And Im talking about the good kind. Theres been all sorts of posts about talking up customers both here and on the blue site. Im sure some of the ladies could also advise you on good opening lines etc. Maybe a few will chime in with advise for ya.

    Have a good one.

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    Thanks FBR. I think a lot of my attitude was because of the club I was working at. It was my first one and I was so afriad to let go that I wasted a lot of time there. I think it was the exact wrong club for me and looking back on it I think it was really affecting my attitude while I was there, making it difficult to talk to people without just thinking about how much money I wasn&#039;t making. I&#039;m finding a new club now so hopefully I&#039;ll be able to open up more and be myself. The happy sexy stripper self, that&#039;s worth $2k/night.

    Thanks for your advice.

    Something else that occured to me is that the other girls could have been lying to make them sound better. They would often ask me first how much I made off a guy (can someone say rude?) and then be like, "he didn&#039;t tip you X?" Yeah, so there&#039;s always a good chance that sense it was a fully nude medium contact hick juice bar in the sticks that the clientile was just cheap.

    (How many times did I hear, "The dances are $15.00?? The used to be $5.00!" What, in 1970?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo link=board=9;threadid=12248;start=msg159321#msg159 321 date=1092937904


    Thanks for your advice.

    Something else that occured to me is that the other girls could have been lying to make them sound better. They would often ask me first how much I made off a guy (can someone say rude?) and then be like, "he didn&#039;t tip you X?" Yeah, so there&#039;s always a good chance that sense it was a fully nude medium contact hick juice bar in the sticks that the clientile was just cheap.

    (How many times did I hear, "The dances are $15.00?? The used to be $5.00!" What, in 1970?)
    Youre welcome voodoo.

    Dancers lie about what they make ??? Im sure that never happens

    Hmmm no doubt the bar and the associated clientel can directly affect your money. If your club doesnt have a solid customer base, youre not going to see the dollars you want in your garter, no matter how hot you are and how hard you work. OTOH, in a really rocking club, even a so-so dancer can make decent money. Frankly, I think that is how some dancers get an overinflated opinion of themselves,..easy money teaches them bad lessons. But thats a whole nuther topic.

    I guess finding the right club thats a good fit with your style and earnings desire is something to work towards. You might have to cycle through several before it happens.

    Cya

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    Just got hired at a new one today. It&#039;s COMPLETELY different. (we&#039;re talking two ends of the spectrum). I&#039;ll tell you how the tips are coming when I get a feel for the place. Wish me luck!

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    Good luck voodoo!!! Let us know how you like the new club.

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    Yes let us know voodoo how it works out. You are a nice lady and I wish you the best.

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    The new club is NICE. Since it just opened they&#039;re doing good business, and adjusting some things about the club. I&#039;ve gotten tons more tips, and had to do half the work to get them. There are a couple things that suck, like the champaign room is contact and priced at $100.00/15min. and I get half of that. Plus we have to get the customer to tip the floor guy that helps or we have to tip him 10-20 ourselves. So if the customer wants me to dance the entire fifteen minutes and doesn&#039;t tip the doorman I&#039;m making roughly $30-$40 for about 4 contact dances. When I could be making that much with no contact on the main floor and I&#039;d get to keep all of it. I don&#039;t think the customers realize how much the house takes which BLOWS. There&#039;s a lot of the "that was my customer" bullshit but besides that the girls seem nice.
    Another thing I don&#039;t like is that there is no pole! I feel like a moron on stage most of the time, but everyone generally does the same thing.

    There is a lot less of the creepy guys and a lot more gentleman. The club is relaxed about schedules and generally a great place to work. I think they might still be adjusting their prices, which is good. maybe they&#039;ll only take 75% of the rooms and not 50%.... that would be nice.....

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    Voodoo Im glad your new club seems to be working out. There is always going to be a few things you dont like but overall all it sounds like you made a good choice .

    I hit my fav club this afternoon for a quick fix Miss D, my dancer dejour, was there Of course I knew she was working cause she called me but it was still nice to see her show up. She had a bit of drama with the new dancer formerly from my south of town club Miss K. I&#039;ll be honest...I played it a bit...I couldnt help myself LOL I normally tip Miss D $20 each stage set but the last one I was engrossed in conversation with Miss K and didnt do so. I heard about it afterwards LMAO. It was actually kinda cute Miss D was especially snuggly the rest of the evening

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    I&#039;ve always done well with getting tipped above the set price on dances, and I am not meek or submissive, nor do I provide a lot of mileage in my dances. I am good however, at making eye contact, smiling seductively and giving a good, sensual, teasing dance. Not all guys appreciate that and a few complaing that I give sucky dances because I don&#039;t dry hump while letting them finger-bang me, but most do seem to appreciate my style.

    But I&#039;ve also wondered why some nights it seems like the really trashy looking girls make money. I figure it&#039;s also the "I have a chance" mentality.

    Sometimes it&#039;s about finding a club with clientele that can appreciate your style, or adjusting your own style a bit too. Just don&#039;t do anything that feels weird or fake; customers notice.
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    Nina your dances sound excellent to me . But as you so eloquently posted dancers and customers have to find a club that provides all parties what they are looking for Im fortunate to have found one so Im a happy camper.

    FBR

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    ^ FBR...Master of Club Drama Capitalization!
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    Yeah, NinaDaisy, you&#039;re right about finding a club that fits your style. That&#039;s what I&#039;ve done. I feel like I have so much more experience now that I&#039;ve worked in two different environments. Gives me more confidence, and therefore more money!

    Thanks for all your help, guys. If I get in a rut again, I&#039;ll be sure to hit you guys up again.

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