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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaPDX link=board=27;threadid=12741;start=msg165273#msg16 5273 date=1093641749
    Hey ladies, thanks for your honest replies. It's nice to see that there are others in the same boat as me.
    Thanks you! This thread also helped me realize I wasn't the only out there not taking home the big buck$.



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    I dont think making $100 in a 8 shift is all that bad providing the Dancer gets to keep all of that. But even $100 still comes to about $12.00 an hour. If it is Tax free that would really be like $15.00 an hour.

    Personally, I dont think a Dancer should stay at a place if she consistently makes under $100.00 a night on an 8 hour Shift.

    If a Dancer consistently makes that amount, then it could be the Dancer, The Club, The Customers or just the area. Or it could be a combination of all 3. In such a case the Dancer should try a different place or maybe find a regular job and just do dancing part time or leave dancing altogether.

    Anyway, Dancers I hope you make at least $100 a night average.

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    ok i hate to break you ladies hearts but............
    a few years back my friends and i all had a halloween party. Everyone had to go in costume or you couldnt get in. So i went as a stripper fake boobs and all. I made about 50 bucks in less than 10 minutes dancing on a table. LOL

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    Here's to the $150-200 crowd! Maybe with this thread we can dispel some of those 'grass is always greener somewhere else' feelings. In any case, it sure makes me feel better to know I'm not the only one out there earning this kind of money.

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    Default Re:Raise your hand if you regularly make under $200/shift

    I work the dayshift and make 100-400 a dAY.... with 15-20 other girls on the floor so I'm not complaining. My club recently upped the dance prices and the dancers are paying out of their ass now, but I am happy for every cent that I get. I have a job that offers me flexibility, awesome earning potential, and allows me to fuck off if I so choose.

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    wait dancers pay to work in a club ? man i am in the wrong business. I need to open a strip club. I can get the suckers at the bar to pay too much for drinks than the girls pay to dance there. I would be making some serious cash.
    I would let you ladies dance for free cause you are all so sweet.

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    Default Re:Raise your hand if you regularly make under $200/shift

    sad.But true.I have been told I should be working in better clubs.But that means more travel ,more house fees. Right now I just take my chances.
    I almost hate telling people I'm a stripper because then they think I have unlimited $.They don't understand that I do it because it is better for me than a low budget "regular" job or working my ass off on a horse farm( my real love) and making no $ working 6 days a week.

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    Pazzo, I don't travel for the exact reasons hardkandee said. I don't want to take that extra time to travel and I'd rather have more time on the weekends then more money. I also really like my club. I like the people I work with, my boss, and most of the customers. I don't have to hustle hard to make a consitant amount, and I can get home at an earlier hour than working in the city. So yes, I could make much more, but it's not worth it to me to travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=27;threadid=12741;start=msg165072#msg16 5072 date=1093625323
    Some people want to live in the big city. Some people don't. To live in the big city you need more money. To live in the country you need less money. The only right answer is what's right for YOU.
    Bridgette has the right idea

    I live in a more rural area outside a city now and my personal income these days is around 70 grand LESS than what it was when I was dancing-- I am very happy and content.

    Before I lived in the city and I was one of those dancers who wasn't happy with less than 500 a night, BUT that's only because of the goal I had set for myself concerning retiring at or before 30 to have a child and be able to stay home and raise my kid full time. I had to earn that to make my 10 year goal. Otherwise ,I would have been quite content with 100-200 a shift because I loved performing.

    What matters is how you use dancing to better yourself or make your life more content and not about the exact dollar amount you make.

    There are very few jobs that are more "personal" than dancing and so dancing isn't going to mean the same thing or be the same way for everyone. It's all about you and what you want from it



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    I agree with icechic and hardkandee--

    I know I could be raking in the big bucks if I worked in a bigger club, but quite frankly, I dont want to deal with bigger clubs that are hours away and where tip outs are enormous and girls are hustling hard to make money....I dont work at clubs that have table dances nor lap dances..that's just where I draw my own personal line...I dont want anyone touching me..But thats just me..And my shifts are only 2 hours and I usually dont have to tip out anyone..It was a crappy night and I made $134..in only 1 hour of dancing..I was there for 2 hours but only dancing a total of 1 hour...I like sticking with the small time clubs..They are alot more comfortable for me...Liking(at least somewhat) where I work is more important to me then struggling at a big club where I feel tension bet girls and where Im just not comfortable..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Luscious link=board=27;threadid=12741;start=msg165008#msg16 5008 date=1093619278
    My average on a night is about $200. I think that's pretty good considering I only get on stage 3-4 times a night within 7 hours. And I don't sell that many lap dances. My problem is we have too many girls at my club so I only get scheduled for two shits a week. I could make $400 a week at an office job. But I live in a fairly expensive area so it's really not that much money.

    On stage 3-4 times?!! Sheesh, I only get on stage once in a 7-8 hour shift, and that's if I'm lucky and don't happen to be giving a dance when it's my turn, (in which case you get skipped, then you can pretty much kiss the stage goodbye for the rest of the night.

    I made it on twice last night, which is unheard of usually. Only because there were 40 girls or less last night. Usually there are between 45-60 girls there during night shifts.

    Sheesh, I don't know how I still manage 3-5 hundred every night with that many chicks there, and no "advertisement time" on stage. (All the guys seem to always want to see you on stage before they buy a dance from you.)

    I also have an office day job. I make more in a night or two at the club then I do in two 40 hour work weeks with overtime! Not to shabby.




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    On stage 3-4 times?!! Sheesh, I only get on stage once in a 7-8 hour shift
    Wow it's crazy how we all have such different experiences. Both of the clubs I work at have only two or three girls working at a time! I go on stage about 15-18 times a shift (shift=5 or 6 hours).

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    Bridgette has the right idea

    I live in a more rural area outside a city now and my personal income these days is around 70 grand LESS than what it was when I was dancing-- I am very happy and content.

    Before I lived in the city and I was one of those dancers who wasn't happy with less than 500 a night, BUT that's only because of the goal I had set for myself concerning retiring at or before 30 to have a child and be able to stay home and raise my kid full time. I had to earn that to make my 10 year goal. Otherwise ,I would have been quite content with 100-200 a shift because I loved performing.

    The fact that you retired at 30 is exactly the way its supposed to be.Your "happy"and "content"were earned.

    Would you have been able to retire at 30 if you averaged 100-200 dollars a night during your time on stage?

    Would you have the earned lifestyle and the ability to provide for your family had you settled for 100-200 a night.

    You made it 10 years in this industry,thats pretty good.Most entertainers at 10 years are either a success story,or a story most dont want to talk about.

    Alot of girls in this industry are 18-21.As a "success"story,i would think thats what you would preach,not the "settle"story.
    Teach them the right way.

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    I am also making about 1-200 per shift (sometimes closer to 100). BUT it's been slow lately, I've only been dancing for 4 months, and I hear that it gets better in the fall around here. Also, to put things in perspective, I had a job before this making about 7 dollars an hour...I make in 3 or 4 nights now what it took two weeks of working 5 days a week to make before. I'm 19, in school, with no real job skills to get a job making the same kind of money I do dancing. My shifts are 5-6 hours long...so if I make 100 dollars in a 5 hour shift, I am making 20 dollars an hour! Also, there are things that other dancers around here are comfortable doing that I am not (making more physical contact with the customers, for example) that cause me to make a little less money. Also, I do stage dancing only, I don't work in a lap dance club because I'm just not comfortable with the idea right now. But what I'm making pays my rent and my tuition, with some left over, so I'm ok with it.

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    Yeah, before I started dancing the most I had ever made at any job was $6.50 an hour. Now even on a REALLY bad shift dancing, even on the worst shift I've ever had, I make more than that.

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    Anna, it sounds like we've worked in the same clubs? I totally know where you're coming from because I live in the same city as you and have also worked the small clubs consistantly. Taking a break right now, but I'm sure I'll be back to making 100 a night if I'm lucky...and yes, that's with being on stage practically all night.
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    Sometimes the $200 nights are worth it - I just had a week of way crappy money at my club, but I stuck it out and yesterday one of my regulars offered to pay my tuition. Woohoo :-)



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    Starfire

    If you dont mind me asking, what state do you work in?? There are very few states left where Ive found bikini bars/just stage dancing....Which is what I prefer.

    It means more to me to make less money (50-200--sometimes more) per 2 hour shift then to retire at 30 with a boatload of money from forcing myself to do a style of dancing Im extremely uncomfortable with..its not worth it to me..Which is why Im going to school(am taking 3 classes)...So I can have a career that will take me to regular retirement(age 65). More power to those girls who've got over 100,000 in retirement or something to that effect..If I could put up with more...I might do the same...Each person feels diferrently, and thats something I respect..

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    I work in the Baltimore area, there are a few clubs out here that do only stage dancing, like gails, memories, christina's and dreamers on north point boulevard, the crazy russian and excape on pulaski highway....also kaos in towson, I think millstream is mostly stage dancing although I hear they have a champagne room there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercedez link=board=27;threadid=12741;start=msg164815#msg16 4815 date=1093582379
    But let's think on the positive side......You can make 150-200 bucks in one night!!!! Some citizens in the U.S, maybe make that in a week, and they may work alot more than you do...they work their asses off!!!! Be thankful............
    Well, I agree with Mercedez on this one... I think all of you have heard my two cents about this.. we whine because its only 200, but then think about the average secretary who is making 10-12 bucks an hour...

    Personally, this is my take on it: I do better (and currently, I do have a regular 8-5 job, and I am dancing two nights per week thru the end of the year) I do better when I am gone and come back.. those two days I work at the club are like a time clock getting ready to go off.. I hustle my ass all night.. and my earnings have stayed the same just like when I was working four shifts a week.

    My area is weird. We have the nicest club in town. But, it gets slow too, but we thrive on regular customers. Regular customers are golden here- we also get the young college crowd too, and business is touch and go.

    I am happy if I show up at 9 pm and walk out at 2 with $200 or more in my pocket- its usually a bit more than that, but, two shifts at $200 each after tip outs equals $400 which is equivalent to 40 hours a week making $10 per hour. Not too shabby for mingling, partying and dancing for a few guys.

    Just my two cents.


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    Hi Sherrill! We used to work together at The Night Before...I worked there for 6 months (November 2002 - March 2003) and left to have my son. Anyway, I worked at the same club as Sherrill and I fit into her "okay night" range most of the time - usually between 100 and 150. But I didn't try very hard and like she said, she hussled her ass off. At my other club, in an Army town, where I only worked for a month, I made 300+ every night without hustling much. So when I came to Lincoln I was pretty disappointed in the earnings before realizing it is normal for this region.

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    I live in SF; I regularly make between 200-600 every night. Veteran girls here are making 900+ on weekends. Mind you that I live in the 2nd most expensive city in the U.S. so I probably pay a grip more in rent than most posters on this forum.
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    I have found that the size of a city or the cost of living where we are dancing has little impact on AVERAGE EARNINGS in a club. A large majority of high cost of income cities have lower average dancer earnings than places that are cheaper to live in.

    Many variables determine average earnings.

    As dancers we have to find customers who are drawn to us and willing to spend money.

    This business is on a major decline due to stricter dancing laws which have a ripple effect in all 50 states plus the slower economy.

    EVERY big city I have worked in has WAAAY more dancers than are needed.

    There are more younger customers and less older ones in clubs nowadays.

    And as Sapphire says, a DJ who is allowed and motivated to push the stage and the dances on guys creates a momentum where guys feel obligated to spend money. And I don't see too many DJ's doing that in many clubs I visit.

    Younger customers aren't going to spend the lump sums that older lonely guys will and that is why even in upper end clubs when the crowd is obviously full of the younger crowd, pushing stage tips, two for ones, and dollar dances is more important than having 80 girls walking around making no money because the wrong demographic customer is the majority in the club.

    Many clubs where customers have become accustomed to "good " dances have had "enforced" laws placed on them to where no contact is allowed thus taking away the desire for customers to buy dances.

    I have never worked in a club where I did not have at least one night a week of making $100-$199.

    Nowadays making money dancing requires developing relationships with customers ie regulars and finding one or two guys per night who will spend $200+ on you to make more.

    And in the better big city clubs "potential" may exist for higher earnings but with 100 dancers most of whom are above average in looks and maybe 75 customers on the floor, and out of those 75 customers 40-50 may be in their twenties and some of them females, just being able to sell a couple guys on buying ANY dances may be a chore.

    And if the several guys you do sell only are willing to buy a dance or two, you may not even clear $100 after payouts.

    On another night in the same club, 2 guys may come in the club who are infatuated with you and you may make 2-3 times more than $200.

    But if you work 5 nights a week in those types of conditions, it is very possible to have a week that looks like this:

    Monday-$450
    Tuesday-$180
    Thursday-$60
    Friday-$120
    Sunday-$275

    And in clubs where dance laws are heavily enforced, many girls are making $75-$150 a night average.

    Big city upscale clubs don't translate into higher earnings consistently anymore.

    I make more consistent money in SELECTED small town rural clubs than in big city ones. About TWICE as much.

    The reason why is a controlled amount of dancers, low payouts, base pay, customers conditioned to stage tipping, stage sets every hour to hour and a half, and a larger percentage of devoted middle aged customers who regularly patronize the club and spend money on their favorite dancers.

    With not as many girls to choose from as long as you are in a small town club that allows decent contact dances and is somewhat popular there is MUCH less rejection.

    Many girls talk about their good nights and not the bad.

    ANY dancer nowadays with a FEW exceptions who works 20 days a month minimum and who is reporting on earnings AFTER tipouts is about 95% likely to have days under $200.

    Many nights making $200 AFTER payout is a MAJOR accomplishment.

    The last 23 days I worked I have averaged $311 per night after payouts in small town clubs and the same time frame in Vegas was $140. I am much more popular in the smaller clubs and some of the girls don't work the floor as well as in the big cities so it works to a good floor workers advantage.

    Plus in towns like Vegas the percentage of young customers to older ones is high and guys feel over pressured with dozens of girls approaching them. And girls have higher income expectations there and when the amount of dancers exceeds the amount of customers it becomes very cutthroat.

    I will confidently say that the typical Vegas dancer AVERAGES under $200 a night after payouts with some convention weeks showing more promise. Too many dancers and less target customers, those guys aged 35-65. And I will also confidently say that in Vegas the girls who REGULARLY AVERAGE OVER $200 work in smaller clubs where they have a controlled amount of dancers and where the local guys aged 35-65 patronize regularly and spend lump sums of money often on their favorite dancers.

    You can go to clubs all over the country and find that in the majority of clubs most girls are averaging under $200 a night, some under $100.

    The only way to attempt to increase that figure is to travel around and be prepared to move on should a club you are dancing in has a big drop in earnings or stricter laws imposed on it. And every dancer especially those with young children or serious relationships is not able to do that.

    Even if a dancer is a great salespeson, a lot of things beyond her control can keep her earning under $200 a shift. Many girls in big clubs with lots of girls don't even get their payout back 1/3 of the nights they work.

    This was a long post but too many dancers are ashamed of their earnings.

    The girls who regularly made $500+ were working in the nineties before so many dancers entered the game and before the economy and strip club laws crippled this business.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM link=board=27;threadid=12741;start=msg165871#msg16 5871 date=1093716576
    Bridgette has the right idea

    I live in a more rural area outside a city now and my personal income these days is around 70 grand LESS than what it was when I was dancing-- I am very happy and content.

    Before I lived in the city and I was one of those dancers who wasn't happy with less than 500 a night, BUT that's only because of the goal I had set for myself concerning retiring at or before 30 to have a child and be able to stay home and raise my kid full time. I had to earn that to make my 10 year goal. Otherwise ,I would have been quite content with 100-200 a shift because I loved performing.

    The fact that you retired at 30 is exactly the way its supposed to be.Your "happy"and "content"were earned.

    Would you have been able to retire at 30 if you averaged 100-200 dollars a night during your time on stage?

    Would you have the earned lifestyle and the ability to provide for your family had you settled for 100-200 a night.

    You made it 10 years in this industry,thats pretty good.Most entertainers at 10 years are either a success story,or a story most dont want to talk about.

    Alot of girls in this industry are 18-21.As a "success"story,i would think thats what you would preach,not the "settle"story.
    Teach them the right way.
    You missed the point completely. My point was:

    What matters is how you use dancing to better yourself or make your life more content and not about the exact dollar amount you make.

    And I feel that I must remind you BigGreen - working in a club orn as a club em[ployee is not the same as working as a dancer

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