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    Couple weeks ago I met a sweet, seemingly well adjusted, and very attractive young woman a club (not a strip club) near the beach in Santa Monica. Very nice place. We hit it off big, and have been out twice since then. Things were looking great, until she told me she had a second job as a dancer. I paused, then asked her, "As in dancing *in* 'Sunset Boulevard' or ... at a club *on* Sunset Blvd."

    She gave me a less than thrilled smile at my joke, then responded, "I don't recall any dancing in 'Sunset Boulevard'."

    I said, "I see.... " Nodding my head in search of some divine inspiration on how to respond to this.

    She asked if I'd ever dated a dancer before. I hadn't dated any strippers, but I said, "I dated a ballet dancer once. She had a full set Russian baggage. Her baggage clashed with mine." [True] This successfully changed the topic to Russians immigrating to LA in large numbers, and somehow picking West Hollywood as their base camp.

    The evening ended warmly but with less enthusiasm from me. I had no idea what intimacy meant to her. I had numerous other images in my head that were confusing me. Obviously sensing this, she looked me in the eyes, holding onto my hands, "B___, is my dancing going to be a problem for you?" I shook my head, "God I hope not. I'll call you tomorrow, promise. I have an appearance in the morning. I'll call you when I get out." Some tentative affection was exchanged, and I left to drive home, thoroughly freaked out. I didn't know whether I had hit "the motherload", or a load of headaches. So of course I turned to the internet for help, which brought me to stripperweb.com.

    I posted in this forum, hoping to both contribute and recieve advice. I was hoping to learn from your stories and get specific advice, and contribute in any way I could. I have not seen any postings about my particular situation. If this is a well covered topic, I apologize. The archive of postings in this forum is quite large.

    Couple more quick facts: I do not know where she works or the type of club, yet. She's 25 (she says). I'm 35. She claims toalso work as paralegal. I believe her. This is too easy to check.

    So, after reading hundreds of your postings, I'm much worse. The worst part was reading stories of rampant mistreatment of dancers, from the foul and offensive customer, to small peckered vice cop harrassment, to rape. The best part was reading the very high level of professionism, intelligence, and humor, common to almost all contributing dancers here. It seems that much like more mainstream professionals such as physicians and lawyers, an emotional connection other than friendship with the client is a recipe for almost sure disaster. This is how physicians can cope with patients that die, or lawyers deal with clients that lose their house or end up in the clink.

    So with the promise that I will contribute and offer insights whenever I see an opportunity, here's my query:

    Can I trust her? If SS (stripper shit) works so well inside the club, why shouldn't she be using it habitually outside the club? I get the feeling most strippers could pass a lie detector test easier than an eye exam.

    Should I bother even trying? If I have doubts, do we have any chance? I can deal with what's in her past. I would want her to stop dancing soon, however. I don't want to be controlling or take away her independance, but the safety and gross factors would have me tripping nightly. Unlike troublemaker's SO, however, I have more than enough means to provide for the income loss, including giving or getting her a job at the same pay rate.

    Yet I have no desire to be a sugardaddy.

    I'm pretty sure I do not want to visit her during her working hours. I'm guessing she may have a problem with this also.

    One option I've thought about is to have a very accelerated romance. I take her to Europe for two weeks, and if it works, we get married in Vegas upon return. She moves in....happily ever after. [with prenup, of course] I have to give ABC credit for this idea. ABC's version is 1 W / 4L I think. Not good odds.

    Of course she may be reading this and I'm completely busted. If you are reading this C, what do you say to two weeks in Europe?

    Any help is appreciated. I promise to take some rich friends down to clubs near San Diego and spend gads of money. I hear earnings are tight down there. [No chance of running into C, either].

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    It's all about Trust. I never had a problem with it.

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    OK,first of all San Diego clubs all suck *ss.You will not enjoy yourself at all.I promise.

    Second,you are thinking about her dancing way too much.Sure we BS men at work,but we are just our normal selves when we're not.We can separate the two.

    I say go for it and see where it takes you.
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    For the most part, if she seems like a well-adjusted chick, she probably is. It's pretty clear you're letting your negative pre-conceived notions of strippers, strip clubs and customers cloud your judgement of her. Unfortunately it is extremely difficult at best for most people to get past that.

    If it's possible at all, the best thing you can do is to recognize that her job is just a job, it comes with risks and benefits like any other. Granted the risks can be a bit harder for average folks to stomach, but the benefits can be equally fantastic. If you can see past the job enough to get a good look at HER, you're probably in for a real treat; well-adjusted strippers are refreshingly straight-forward and (for the most part) uncomplicated by sexual hangups.

    If you can't *honestly* see past the job, you should move on now. Prolonging it won't do either of you any good.

    Good luck.

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    Oh yeah and I don't recommend you demand she quit her job. Not a good idea. Well-adjusted strippers are also unimpressed by a guy who expects her to quit her job for him. Offering to help her get a job which pays comparably is one thing, but if she's not ready to quit, then what?

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    Madcap - That's not the only problem. If I keep seeing her, I would want her to stop, based in part on the stomach turning stories I've read in this forum. I've come admire the stength, independance, and work ethic shown by dancer members in this forum. I also admire the same qualities in military fighting overseas. If my SO was in Iraq, I'd want her home ASAP. She served her time. Who needs the stress if they can afford to avoid it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=12757;start=msg164879#msg164 879 date=1093594797
    Oh yeah and I don't recommend you demand she quit her job. Not a good idea. Well-adjusted strippers are also unimpressed by a guy who expects her to quit her job for him. Offering to help her get a job which pays comparably is one thing, but if she's not ready to quit, then what?
    First off, thanks already, I knew this was a cool bunch. Bridgette - I would never demand she quit, or expect her to. Fact is you girls have freaked me out with all the stories I read. The rape story made me particularly sad, as did the humiliating vice bust in Dallas. Have you seen how they posted the pix of dancers on the Dallas PD web site, it's fucking outrageous. Remember I didn't know she was a dancer until our third meeting. I have no interest in impressing her by controlling her. Hopefully caring about her safety and well-being will impress her.

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    Hmmm....

    From what I've read, It doesn't sound like you're too trusting of this individual. Maybe you are, and I am missing it somewhere? Possibly so.

    But you met her as a 'dancer', and you might marry her as a 'dancer'.... If trust is the issue, well I am sorry to tell you that anyone can cheat/lie/steal/hurt someone else.....It doesn't matter about the job description in my opinion.

    It's a job. She earns money, she works hours, and she comes home. I don't think her personality is based around her job, do you? Have you tried talking to her about your concerns?

    What are the reasons that you like her? Focus on that. You gave the example that if your SO was in Iraq, you'd want them to come home. I don't think you'd demand this of them, Right?

    She's still the same person you started having feelings for.

    Focus on that.

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    Understood, but ya gotta understand that those risks are WAY low on the relativity scale. Yes dancers have bad things happen to them every day. So do housewives. You're still running the risk of screwing things up with her before it even really starts. Christ, you've only known her a couple weeks and you're already trying to plan her life with you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=12757;start=msg164875#msg164 875 date=1093594435
    ...

    well-adjusted strippers are refreshingly straight-forward and (for the most part) uncomplicated by sexual hangups.

    If you can't *honestly* see past the job, you should move on now. Prolonging it won't do either of you any good.

    Good luck.
    Very illuminating.

    So the entire club is like a theatrical stage to strippers. What's known as SS is merely an element of the performance. A script improvisation, if you will. I'll bet this is even more true in LA, where lots of dancers do have hollywood aspirations. OK. I'm mostly OK with the SS issue.

    "Uncomplicated by sexual hangups" is the elephant in the room I never here you all mention. Since you brought it up, explain to me how being a stripper facilitates a well adjusted sexuality. I believe it probably does; please enlighten me. [This is a digressive topic, sorry] American culture is astonishingly sexually repressed. I'm guessing this may be part of the answer.

    Thanks again Bridgette

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseDelight link=board=1;threadid=12757;start=msg164893#msg164 893 date=1093596769
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    She's still the same person you started having feelings for.

    Focus on that.

    Peace!
    Peace and love, Rose.

    No doubt. Never thought I'd see those words in this forum. Damn glad I have.

    I'm sure this seems like I got bent out of shape very quickly. I was hoping to vent a little drama with you all rather than confront her immediately. It's helping. Imagine dating someone in a profession which you had little true knowledge of, but were surrounded by a repressive culture that looked down on it. I'm here seeking knowledge. Reading the forums was an uncomfortable level of knowledge. Felt like I was watching the evening news at times. Looking for a few feature page success stories other than monetary achievement.

    Thx Rose

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    Stant, Ok honey my hubby is telling me to type this for you and maybe this will help ease your mind. Ok here goes.

    He says, "I have been married to a wonderful woman for 6 beautiful years now, and she happens to dance for a living. She is totally different while at work then at home. At work she is a sex kitten, a single mother who works to go to school and raise her kid. She is a temptress who's only sole purpose at work is to visually stimulate and mentally "get off" every man who walks in the door. At home she is a caring thoughtful woman who would never be ashamed to say she is mine, and the live we have is not hidden from anyone we meet. I fell in love with the women not the dancer, and if dancing is a part of who she is then so be it. I love her and know she would never try to trick, decieve, or lie to me. While I have known many dancers becasue of D.J. friends and her as well; I have seen many girls who you are describing that you are afraid of. Like that one girl said, don't tell her you will "take her away from this" or that you want her to quit. Just let things take their natural course, and if at a later time you feel you can't handle her job, then tell her. Women are strong and most dancers are tougher than that. I am sure she can handle that. Most men just don't have what it takes to be in a relationship with a dancer. It takes a special kind of man to handle that kind of pressure. If you are the type of man that is NOT jealous, or worried about her running off every night. Then I say go for it! In my personal experience; dancers can be the most outragous hellcats in bed(a major bonus there), and they are mostly down to earth(ones who aren't druggies or whores anyway). I say it can work, but only if you are open to her and honest. For honesty is the basis for a great relationship anyway, no matter if she dancers or is a judge. But that's just me. Good luck man! I'm going back to bed for a few now, night night!!!"

    So you see his side of it, I agree with him. You have to be an open person for this to work. If not say bye bye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitana link=board=1;threadid=12757;start=msg164912#msg164 912 date=1093601330
    Stant, Ok honey my hubby is telling me to type this for you and maybe this will help ease your mind. Ok here goes.

    He says, "I have been married to a wonderful woman for 6 beautiful years now,
    ...
    Thx Kitana and Mr. Kitana -

    Interesting twist on SS. Single mother? Very clever, Kitana. Vulnerable, needy. Damn these girls have game. Kitana is marketing to a niche audience. Next I expect to hear about product placement endorsements.

    I gotta say though this site is literally filled some pretty creepy complaints about the profession. A few of these left a lasting impression. As did some of the really creepy male member&#039;s comments. [Not the DJ&#039;s] I could have died happily without the image of some needle-dick weenie in sweats poking his little boner against some sweet dancer. I was under the mistaken belief that Beavis and Butthead were fictional. I think there&#039;s a whole lot more to this profession than the money you all talk about. It&#039;s not cleaning toilets for big money. It has some bigger fem power factor. Those revolutionary babes in SF must have a theory on this. I can totally deal with this if its true. I just haven&#039;t read about from anybody.

    Thx again Kitana

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    I&#039;ve heard doctors talk about making money over saving lives.

    I&#039;ve seen lawyers lie to judges in order to hide clients&#039; illegally obtained money.

    I&#039;ve seen engineers take shortcuts that threaten structural integrity.

    There&#039;s horror stories everywhere. If you focus on them, you&#039;ll be afraid to move in this world. Just accept people for who they are, not a generalized concept of what you think they might be, because of their jobs or their backgrounds or other aspects which can lead to faulty stereotyping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stant link=board=1;threadid=12757;start=msg164865#msg164 865 date=1093593228
    The evening ended warmly but with less enthusiasm from me. I had no idea what intimacy meant to her. I had numerous other images in my head that were confusing me. Obviously sensing this, she looked me in the eyes, holding onto my hands, "B___, is my dancing going to be a problem for you?" I shook my head, "God I hope not...."

    I posted in this forum, hoping to both contribute and recieve advice. I was hoping to learn from your stories and get specific advice, and contribute in any way I could. I have not seen any postings about my particular situation. If this is a well covered topic, I apologize. The archive of postings in this forum is quite large....

    Can I trust her? If SS (stripper shit) works so well inside the club, why shouldn&#039;t she be using it habitually outside the club? I get the feeling most strippers could pass a lie detector test easier than an eye exam.

    Should I bother even trying? If I have doubts, do we have any chance? I can deal with what&#039;s in her past. I would want her to stop dancing soon, however. I don&#039;t want to be controlling or take away her independance, but the safety and gross factors would have me tripping nightly. Unlike troublemaker&#039;s SO, however, I have more than enough means to provide for the income loss, including giving or getting her a job at the same pay rate.

    Walk away, man... look at what you&#039;ve written - you aren&#039;t even CLOSE to being ready for what&#039;s in all likelihood coming if you pursue this. By and large, dancers are a breed apart... and quite unlike any other women you&#039;ve ever been with before. For me, that&#039;s been a Godsend - but most guys consider falling in love with a dancer to be a "cardinal sin," &#039;cause you&#039;ll surely pay... with your soul.

    That said, if you do decide to go forth with this, do so with the full understanding that the only way it will work is if you&#039;re fully prepared to take her just as she is - and you understand and accept that whatever problems you might have with "mental images" are YOURS to resolve. Don&#039;t go into this if you&#039;re going to wind up putting them on her or trying to pull her out of dancing... she&#039;ll stop when she&#039;s ready to stop and you really need to be good with what she&#039;s doing or you&#039;re going to be screwed.

    Finally, know this - if you decide to keep going, "buckle up," &#039;cause from what I&#039;m seeing in your post, the transition is going to be rough... and this is probably going to be the wildest ride you&#039;ve ever taken.

    Good luck!
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    Here&#039;s one gentleman&#039;s experience with a dancer as SO and his dire warning to everyone else:

    http://www.stripclubjunkie.com/forum...bbse/t1156.htm

    Although Stant, it seems you may already be dooming things to failure simply by obsessing on one aspect of this woman.

    It&#039;s a safe bet that dancing would create some concerns, frustrations, and discomforts that you might not find elsewhere.

    But all relationships have things that cause grief.

    I&#039;ve been quite amazed at how much more stable some of the dancers I know seem when compared with my X-wife.

    My personal philospophy has come to be that: "There&#039;s nothing inherently wrong with either men or women; you just can&#039;t store them in the same box."

    Try to decide based on the whole package.
    "He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!"

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    I don&#039;t know, guess i see this different. Seems like he has plans for her, that she may not want, quit the job, marriage....Two big lifestyle changes right off the bat. Maybe slow down some. Kinda sounds like you like her alot, bit not what she does for money, it&#039;s a job.

    Me, i was put in that situation, i DID NOT quit my job, i quit the man. And i work for a hospital as well as dancing.

    Just my opinion, NEVER meet a person and change them....ever. This breeds a bad relationship that will fail. Let her be her, you be you. Accept and love each other for who they are...Always!

    Change only happens when a person wants to change, not when asked to change to make another person feel better. And i speak mainly about jobs here. You have the infamous "what if&#039;s" perhaps about her job. Try to see if this works with acceptance as to who she is now!

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    Well said, Pamela.

    If you seek to change a person, you forget why you fell for them in the first place.

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    I&#039;ve heard that:

    "a woman marries a man hoping to change him and she can&#039;t, and;

    a man marries a woman hoping that she won&#039;t change and she does."

    Don&#039;t know who to blame for it, though.
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    If there is one thing about a person that you cannot come to "terms" with, then it is best to write of the entire relationship. I only say that because a lot of people go into situations like that thinking that "it&#039;ll get better" when it really doesn&#039;t. Something like that just grows and begins to cause resentments which causes arguments which cause more resentments and waste both parties time.

    Sometimes there are people we meet in life who teach us lessons, but were never meant to "stay" for long. Learn the lesson you need and move on.

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    Ugh! I have to shrug off the disguise of a smartassed dj and allow the world to see inside my heart to answer this one.....

    I&#039;m married to a dancer, and for the last 8yrs we have worked side by side at various strip joints throughout Connecticut.
    Has it been stress free? No, but then again what relationship ever is? Do I get laid more than the average schmuck who is married to say a doctor or a chick who works at McDonalds? No, I actually get laid less than those guys( A dancer portrays a sexual being all day/night long at work, home is for relaxing)

    Can I trust her? If SS (stripper shit) works so well inside the club, why shouldn&#039;t she be using it habitually outside the club? I get the feeling most strippers could pass a lie detector test easier than an eye exam.
    Can you trust ANY woman? A dancer takes her clothes off for a living, other than that she is just a woman, she may cry at some movie you think is stupid, she may be a nutcase, she may be totally rational... it really has NOTHING to do with her being a dancer, it has to do with her being human.

    The evening ended warmly but with less enthusiasm from me. I had no idea what intimacy meant to her. I had numerous other images in my head that were confusing me. Obviously sensing this, she looked me in the eyes, holding onto my hands, "B___, is my dancing going to be a problem for you?" I shook my head, "God I hope not...."
    If you&#039;re hoping it won&#039;t be a problem, it will be. Those of us who have no problem with our woman dancing have never had to hope...

    Should I bother even trying? If I have doubts, do we have any chance? I can deal with what&#039;s in her past. I would want her to stop dancing soon, however. I don&#039;t want to be controlling or take away her independance, but the safety and gross factors would have me tripping nightly. Unlike troublemaker&#039;s SO, however, I have more than enough means to provide for the income loss, including giving or getting her a job at the same pay rate.
    No you shouldn&#039;t. This quote shows that you are unable to deal with being a dancers man...In time you&#039;ll end up being a problem at work, and prolly cause her to either quit that club and sneak around behind your back to continue dancing, or you&#039;ll get her fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade is a D.j. link=board=1;threadid=12757;start=msg165224#msg165 224 date=1093636936
    No you shouldn&#039;t. This quote shows that you are unable to deal with being a dancers man...In time you&#039;ll end up being a problem at work, and prolly cause her to either quit that club and sneak around behind your back to continue dancing, or you&#039;ll get her fired.
    Right on Blade.. Well put.

    stant- end this thing before you both get too deep into it. She&#039;s not right for you. Harsh reality.

    I take you two haven&#039;t even slept together, yet you&#039;re already obsessing over a 2 week thing, marriage, picket fences and steering her future destiny of quitting her job. You&#039;re also running out obsessing over dozens of other women and boxing her into these extreme cases without any knowledge if your woman or her job even has any resemblence to any of this.

    This is the physical equivalence of trying to write a last Will and Testament prior to going in for a prostate exam. It&#039;s just waaaay off the deep end for obsessive behavior and this is the exact opposite thing an exotic dancer/stripper can have as a significant other. You have to have a strong sense of security, total lack of jealousy, massive trust and understanding.... someone stressing and researching the way you have does not fit this picture very well. And this goes for ANY strong willed, career minded and independent woman- not just dancers. You&#039;re going to be constantly &#039;inventing&#039; her cheating or imagining things much worse than may even be occurring and this does not make for a good relationship for either of you. If you aren&#039;t the kind of guy that can let a woman go on a daily basis and do &#039;her thing&#039; (whatever it may be), then you&#039;re latching on to someone that needs this more than anything else.

    Harsh truth bro, but that&#039;s the way I see it. It&#039;s doomed from the start. Two thumbs-up for trying, but your reaction and methods should be telling you this to yourself already.
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    you have to be a real man to date a stripper. This means, if you are not secure in yourself, and if you cant place trust in another, and if you can&#039;t handle people looking at your woman and fantisising about her, and if you cant see that it is just a job and nothing more-well, then you can&#039;t handle dating this girl. Either accept it and go into this with no preconceptions and with an open mind, or do yourself and her a favor and decline now.

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    For me. My dream is to have a Dancer as a real GF. Having a Wife as a Dancer would to me be a super exciting thing for me.

    Now I only wish I knew where I could find such Women.

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