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    Okay, so as some of you probably saw in the club chat thread I started working at a new club.
    I really really like this club, beautiful place, reasonable fees, money to be made. I'm not the bestest hustler, but it is possible to make money. However, I'm in college four days a week - what I did last week was drive down to my mom's house [or, rather, bf drove and I studied] after my last class Thursday, 70 miles away from new club, stay with family and commute over the weekend, drive back Sunday night. Had three 'slow' shifts [22 hours total], made roughly $700. I also put 884 miles on the car. I am required to work 2 day shifts, so I just work three.

    Now, old club is nice, management adores me, but has been SLOW. Everyone has been saying it is miserable slow and will only be getting slower as fall goes in full swing. I told them I need to be with my family on weekends and my classes are late [true] so I'm working Tuesdays. However, club is only 2.5 miles away, a lot closer, my nightly earnings are between 100-200. Occasionally drives me nuts, we open at six, they pressure girls to come in at six but it's so rare we see a customer before 8pm, we don't even open the lap dance area. We only offer lap dances and 'dollar dances' so basically, you only make money from laps - two hours to maybe make $15, if you're lucky.

    I don't know what to do, my options are:
    Tell GGC I love 'em, but I'm too busy with studies right now and would love to work at another time. Go back to old club 3 days a week, less money but not as much commute. Lose money because I won't be eating my mom's food.
    Continue working at GGC and work at old club, as I am now.
    Quit GGC, work at old club one day a week, try other clubs somewheres.

    Any advice would be appreciated.

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    Default Re:new club or old? advice needed

    How bout work at GCG one weekend a month and work at the old club a couple days a week, or a couple weekends a month?



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    Default Re:new club or old? advice needed

    How much does it cost you to drive to and from your mom's in order to work the new club? Factor in the wear and tear on the car, oil changes, etc, etc, etc...and see which one is better. If you can work it with the new club to work 1 or 2 weekends a month, then you can work both clubs and still be making plenty of money. If you average about $700 per weekend at the new club, that's $1400 plus whatever you earn from the old club. Not too shabby for a college girl.

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    Your studies really need to come first. My grades were wrecked the first year I danced, though I had lots of personaly trauma happen too that year.

    I went to work at a stage-dancing club where I could do homework the 45 mins. between each set. Made only about $300 a night, but my grades were better.

    Have you been at GGC long enough that they'd let you work just weekends?
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    Default Re:new club or old? advice needed

    Luna, I'm not totally clear on the geography of the situation. I take it that your old club, your college and your mom's house are all located within a reasonably short distance of each other, while the new club is in a different city some 70 miles away. I also see that working at the new club actually requires you to work three shifts in order to earn decent money (you must work 2 day shifts to be able to schedule a weekend night shift).

    Living in the northeast myself, that 70 mile drive you speak of is nothing to take for granted. Right now you can probably make the trip in a little over an hour each way. However, once winter weather hits in November that same drive may take 2 hours, or if really bad weather hits you may not be able to make the trip at all ! Also, averaging 800 miles a week on your car is definitely going to take it's toll quickly.

    Look at some "real" economics. $700 gross for three full shifts is better than your old club, but not exactly goldmine. Plus there are pretty good odds that the new club may 1099 you, meaning that your after tax earnings may be more like $500. If you are commuting to work at the new club, the cost of your gas and mileage will probably NOT be tax deductible (the IRS wants to see motel room bills to go along with any travel expense deductions). To go along with the $500 in after tax income for the week, you've got somewhere around $100 in gasoline, plus somewhere around another $50 in pro-rated oil changes, tire wear, and auto repairs. Plus if you are putting 800 extra miles per week on your car it is going to essentially force you to buy a new car every 3 years (=120,000 miles), amounting to at least another $50 a week in pro-rated car payments in the long term.

    IMHO the amount of earning potential at the new club, even though significantly more than is available at your old club, is NOT high enough to justify the hassle and extra costs involved with the commute (not to mention the risk of getting stranded as bad weather sets in). If you are going to travel to dance, it would make more financial sense to hook up with a club which had an earnings potential of $700 a NIGHT, pay for the motel room to work there over the weekend, and deduct all of the travel and accomodation expenses on your tax return.

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    I was about to post that I wouldn't travel any distance for $700. Melonie listed all the reasons in detail. The travel costs would have to be at least $100 each trip just for gas and extra oil changes / tires associated with all the extra driving. That leaves only $600 per week. If you make $100-200 per night at your current club and work 3 shifts per week, you'll be making almost that at home, without all the extra hassle of driving 70 miles one way each weekend. Not to mention, as Mel said, the impending bad weather.

    However, the commute CAN be worth it once a month when there are baseball/football home games on the weekend. Watch the game schedule for Baltimore (this is the town you're talking about travelling to, yes?) and plan one trip per month when there are home games. In my experience there is PLENTY of money to be made on those weekends. And consider taking the train instead of driving, ticket may be the same cost as gas, but no wear and tear on your car and I'm thinking it's safer than driving in winter. That should get you some extra cash every month, a visit to mom's for some home cookin, and time to study.

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    That's what I'm talking about. Steely eyed capitalists. Look's like an optimization problem to me. Any ideas Mojo? (don't tell me you majored in pure math....)

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    At GGC I can only work weekends. The commute helped a little with studying, because if I only brought my school books in the car, I got bored and actually studied, instead of being distracted by, oh, the computer, whatever else is in the house.

    The club from me is roughly 250 miles from me, if I remember right. It is a lot closer for me to stay with my mom, in southern PA, which doesn't see AS bad weather, but still some . . . I'm not going to be trying this during the winter, just until the end of November, hopefully not too bad weather.

    The scheduling is another thing, I'm not sure if there is anywhere that will let you work less than once a week. I'm scheduled for this weekend, maybe I'll just let the next slide and see what happens. . . My old club, despite telling me they'll "work with my schedule" I know really hates it when girls don't work a lot, have heard them say "if you can't work 3 nights a week what good are you?"

    Hee, Nina, if I did only stage at this local club I'd make $40-$70 a night, not a lot.

    Melonie, if you know of any clubs within a 300 mile radius that a reasonably social, but not the best, hustler can make anywhere near that amount per shift, please point me in that direction.
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    Melonie, if you know of any clubs within a 300 mile radius that a reasonably social, but not the best, hustler can make anywhere near that amount per shift, please point me in that direction.
    If you're willing to travel 300 miles, this opens up the possibility of Manhattan clubs and Jersey Shore clubs, where some serious earnings potential can be found !

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    I considered Jersey [Manhattan I thought I probably wouldn't be able to work the best clubs 'cause I'm not exactly a 10 in looks, and stage fees would be prohibitive] but, like other places, thought I'd run into the same problems of having minimal shifts per week and such.. Also I thought Jersey was going past its 'prime' season like us in Upstate NY.
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