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    The many posts regarding extras in a strip club got me thinking the other day as I walked down Market Street. There is a club on a seedy stretch called Market Street Cinema which is fairly notorious but bills itself as a strip club, although the large marquee proudly displays the quote "see the beauty, touch the magic. Since the place has no bar and given the location I hadn't really given it much more than a passing glance before but decided that day to go inside.

    The place is an old theatre that has been converted to strip club use decades ago. The lobby still has the feel of a movie theatre. So I paid the admission...$20 during the day...and gave the ticket taker my ticket. He in turn handed me a condom. Ok, I thought, thats different, and declined the offer of the condom...much to his apparent surprise.

    I went through a curtain into the main theatre which had been cut in half with the stage in the center and what looked like private rooms in back. No girls were on stage. On mounted TV screens really nasty porno was playing. Several girls were walking around in lingerie and bikinis and maybe a handful of guys...definitely a bad ratio if you want to be left alone.

    I was approached pretty quickly by very attractive asian girl who offered to show me around. I felt like declining because I knew it would be hard to tell her no when she inevitably asked for a dance...but I didn't. Well she took me to the back rooms to show me what that was about...it turns out that it costs another $15 to get in the back...but I was just looking. Once back there she said this is where we can have some real fun. Yeah, whatever, I thought, and told her look for me later as I wanted to check out the stage show. She didn't seem to put out and told me she would be on stage sometime that hour and that she would check back.

    So I went to the main room and sat down in one of their old theatre seats. By this time two girls were on stage...they did three sets getting completely naked...and for your tip would get off the stage , since I was in front..and give you a completely naked dance...this was kind of surprising but kind of hot in a nasty sort of way...but that was for a couple of bucks so it made me wonder what a full dance would entail.

    So I sat waiting for the next girls to appear when one of the girls that had just got off stage slinked over and essentially sat down on me without asking and kind of enveloped me with her body...then she whispered in my ear, "I think I must have turned you on during my dance, and as she said it reached down and grabbed my dick. Ok, this website did come to mind at that moment and I felt like "hey sucker run for your life", but I also wanted to see how far this could be taken. It didn't take long to find out, her next whispered sentence was, "we can go in back and take that out (squeezing my dick as she said it) and I'll blow you". Just out of curiousity I asked , "how much"? She answered "$60.".

    Well, not really looking for sex, I declined by telling her I was just there for the show. She sighed got up with one last squeeze and said if I changed my mind to let her know.

    Well, I stuck around for about an hour and was propositioned no less than six times, full sex, blow jobs, and handjobs. And at the same time these girls were touching me in ways that would never happen at the club I frequent.

    When I got back home I decided to check some reviews of the place and found out that it was more notorious than I had thought. I was lucky I didn't get robbed.

    I guess it left me wondering if this kind of club is unique or does every major city have what is essentially a disguised brothel?

    I'm not posting this to piss off the legitimate dancers who frequent this site...but this really happened and it makes me wonder if its this kind of establishment that makes guys think that sex is available in the strip club.

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    Ew, ew, ew! MSC is a hole; don't ever ever mention this again, but i actually worked there for a few shifts (see my review). I only recently moved to san fran and after frequenting strip clubs in chicago and going to some on the east coast, i have to say it is pretty unique to san fran. There are always girls who provide extras but i have never seen a club as seedy as MSC where everyone was an outright whore. Did you hear about the busts? I mentioned them to a woman there on my first day, and she was just like "Oh, that happens about every six months" and just kind of shrugged. Btw, there is reason the place is as dark as it is, if you saw the day shift girls under normal lighting you would understand the are not attractive. I understand, from the redbook forum, that they're handing out condoms now bc before the girls had to always have them on hand and were tired of paying for them, so they started charging the patrons a $10 fee to use a condom (gross, right?).
    ...and the day came, when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became worse than the risk it took to blossom.

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    Yeah, I think most cities have clubs that are more extras-ridden than most, but San Fran seems to be in its own little world. I know there are nice clubs there, but the stories I have heard about Markset Street Cinema and Mitchell brothers make me :o :o :o
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldclubbing link=board=27;threadid=12966;start=msg168055#msg16 8055 date=1094059335

    . The lobby still has the feel of a movie theatre. So I paid the admission...$20 during the day...and gave the ticket taker my ticket. He in turn handed me a condom.
    Well at least the club is promoting SAFE sex ! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine link=board=27;threadid=12966;start=msg168094#msg16 8094 date=1094064532
    Dood, are you a complete id-jiot? Do you not live in SanFran? I don't live there and even I know that MSC is a total hole. I am sure it is a profitable tourist and sleazoid trap, but I can't believe you didn't know what you were getting yourself into!

    HMM you should tell us how you really feel. LOL


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    Sorry Goldclubbing, have to say i have been to my share of clubs, strip to fetish to gay, and even in sweden, and NEVER heard of a club operating like this...Ever. EDIT: Never been to SF either.. :o

    WE do have a club in Brevard co. that is supposed to be a "mens club" you know massage....that is the closest i have ever even heard of anyone being that upfront. And this is just what i hear, i have never been myself.

    Sounds like this club may need to set up shop in Nevada.

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    Pamela-I know its hard to believe that this kind of place exists but it does. But maybe SF is unique. We have "massage parlors" all over downtown where sex is readily available for $200 so I thought it odd that this place could even survive because if thats what your after the cost is about the same, but the quality?

    Well. I was just curious if any of you ladies or gentleman had ever heard of such a place outside the SF. Sorry if I offended anyone.

    Katrine--how is this post inflamatory? Did I hit a nerve?

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    Thank you Verfolgung. I was actually surprised that the "tales" I'd heard were true and this place is open for business. I like a club to conversate in and this was a much different creature. However, there were girls working there that refer to themselves as "strippers" or "dancers" and while I wouldn't put them in the same category as the entertainers I know...this is what was going on and I'm sure it casts a troubling shadow over legitimate dancers?

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    The problem is- clubs like MSC and the like better fit the San Francisco ethic... The 'city is alive with sex clubs, dungeons, underground clubs and the like.

    It is unfair to categorize MSC or similar sex clubs as 'strip clubs', which is where the ill-placed angst goes. These places make no mistake in what they are there for and should not be confused with stripclubs w/ extras in a pure sense. They are places to accent the many wild, crazy, raunchy SF locations... from which there are MUCH racier places, but also lesser known.

    MSC/MBOT wind up on these forums mainly as some like to think of them as 'stripclubs heavy with extras' when they truly do not fit that mold. Yes, you can pay cover, buy standard lapdances and dancers do stage routines... but the overall purpose of these places it to get one's 'freak on' and it's well known, unconfused locally. SF has it's share of stripclubs too, and they only have extras issues no different from anywhere else in the country- it's just unfair to throw MSC/MBOT into that category.

    That being said, MSC/MBOT, while not everyone's cup of tea, as I already mentioned- they are very 'tame' compared to many other lesser known SF locations (one's zoned as nightclubs and bars instead of stripclubs). There are several places in the city that upon entering a dimly lit room, it's like a roman orgy inside. Places with a 'no shirt, no clothes, no problem" sign near the entrance, and security only present with flashlights to make sure all males are wearing condoms at all times. While the more prudish may gasp at such things, it's much more locally accepted... and the scene itself has a very large following.

    I like having these kinds of places around because sometimes when with a woman, a little 'raunch' is just the thing the doctor ordered. I've been dragged to numerous SF clubs many times accompanied with women who wanted to get their ya-ya's out and always had a great time. From the perspective of a much more sexually liberated locale, it's all par for the course.

    People from other regions simply don't understand the local mentality and ethic... this being a city where waiting in line at Starbucks is often behind a pair of hardcore leather bearing punkers, cross dressers/TV's and gay couples fully adorned with Gay Pride colors. People attending big productions of theatre/drama will pack a bag containing their leathers for the dungeon stop after the show. A very liberal "live and let live' attitude swells amongst the people, and everyone is able to experience and express themselves without much fear of persecution.

    I'm not happy about what it does for local stripclubs and competition- but this is why it's important to try and create division between stripclubs and sexclubs. Employee cross sectioning doesnt help either- with some strippers working in the sexclubs and some prostitutes working in the stripclubs. Recent efforts to decriminalize prostitution in San Francisco should be beneficial for unveiling the sexclubs truly for what they are, rather than having them continue to masquerade as stripclubs as a weak work-around to get by state-level law.

    So, just in closing.. it's not that this is some 'dark side of the stripclub industry'... it's a series of adult sex entertainment venues zoned as stripclubs.
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    Your right Verfolgung: I just hate name calling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polecat link=board=27;threadid=12966;start=msg168123#msg16 8123 date=1094067225
    The problem is- clubs like MSC and the like better fit the San Francisco ethic... The 'city is alive with sex clubs, dungeons, underground clubs and the like.

    It is unfair to categorize MSC or similar sex clubs as 'strip clubs', which is where the ill-placed angst goes. These places make no mistake in what they are there for and should not be confused with stripclubs w/ extras in a pure sense. They are places to accent the many wild, crazy, raunchy SF locations... from which there are MUCH racier places, but also lesser known.
    I agree with you Polecat. The sex industry has been different levels of "entertainment", its up to the customer to decided what best fits them.


    Now to answer your question GC,

    I have traveled a lot and I have only run across 3 such clubs.
    You can usually tell with in a brief amount of time whats truly going on in the club. So its then the dancer's choice if they want to work there or simply to move to another club. Its also the customers decision to enter into such clubs.

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    I removed the post. Sorry, guess I was in a snippy mood or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldclubbing link=board=27;threadid=12966;start=msg168115#msg16 8115 date=1094066569

    Katrine--how is this post inflamatory? Did I hit a nerve?
    Quote Originally Posted by goldclubbing link=board=27;threadid=12966;start=msg168124#msg16 8124 date=1094067272
    Your right Verfolgung: I just hate name calling.
    Then take the higher road next time; God knows I've learned to...

    Kat, GC often likes to tell tales of his extracurriculars on this site. This is the least of it...

    Back to the topic...In Baltimore, "The Block" is often known as the place where extras can be had for a price, although by all accounts the "dancers" are overwhelmingly hideous. We're talking chicks with missing teeth, track marks and weighing in at 200+lbs. :o (thick is okay in dancing, overwheight is not, IMO). I've worked at the Hustler in Baltimore, which opened on the Block 9 months ago. Hustler is definitely not an extras club, but it gets annoying when guys come in there expecting the same $20 BJ's as down the street. Which is especially funny when you consider a lap dance there is $25! ???
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    This sounds like a typical NYC. Not strip club but there are seedy places all over NY.

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    ARGH!! I just cleaned up this thread. Naughty, naughty!! LOL

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    there are a lot of nasty strip clubs in jersey too. now that i think about it. in the inner cities some places girls will give oral for like 10 bucks and sex if you want it im sure for cheap.

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    Apologies again for my outburst...Kat, Venus. Nina thanks for your post..

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    Well, it sounds from Pazzo that New Jersey and New York have skanky sex clubs...so where else?

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    I think every single city in the world has at least one skanky club...the list would go on forever. :blech:

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldclubbing link=board=27;threadid=12966;start=msg168470#msg16 8470 date=1094110936
    Well, it sounds from Pazzo that New Jersey and New York have skanky sex clubs...so where else?
    NYC doesn't need skanky sex clubs. thats what afterhours dance clubs are for. So many times walking through the old sound factory seeing people having sex right in the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess link=board=27;threadid=12966;start=msg168625#msg16 8625 date=1094136379
    I think every single city in the world has at least one skanky club...the list would go on forever. :blech:
    Took the words right out of my mouth...

    GC, are you compiling a list here or something? Judging by the caliber and demeanor of dancers that post on this site, you'd likely be checking out the places that the vast majority of us would not want to work in.

    The Blue site or Stripclublist.com has plenty of info from "satisfied" customers. Especially the latter...
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    No Nina no list needed, again just curious. If every major city has such places though then perhaps Polecat is right in that the industry needs to differentiate sex clubs from strip clubs. It seems that sex clubs can have the effect of customers expecting more in strip clubs...imagine if my first experience had been what I described above. I personally prefer strip clubs and fantasy and conversation. I kind of thought as I wrote this that the industry itself is to blame for conditioning customers expectations with these types of clubs billing themselves as strip clubs. What do you ladies think? And are there legitimate dancers who work in these places but don't provide sex?

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    Well, the reason that MOST places who blatantly provide extras (think "Industrial Strip" in Indiana) but call themselves STRIP CLUBS and not SEX CLUBS is because of local laws. Sexual contact is ILLEGAL in most of these towns and cities. No one here is going to get a permit to open up a Sex club (unlike parts of LV). And, as goofy as that sounds...the chances of getting a strip club license and making your club "mainly a sex club" is better if you push that it's "just a strip club".

    I think the decline started when girls started dancing for the money and not for the love of dancing. When you cannot make money working the fantasy and the sensuality, then what do you do? You offer something that you can...which usually leads to extras. Also, in this day and age, our society is not as "creative" as it used to be. Now, we rely on "realistic everything" to fill in the gaps in our imaginations. It's no wonder that people cannot go into a strip club and let their imagination run wild...there's no longer an imagination to do that with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess link=board=27;threadid=12966;start=msg168795#msg16 8795 date=1094152216
    Well, the reason that MOST places who blatantly provide extras (think "Industrial Strip" in Indiana) but call themselves STRIP CLUBS and not SEX CLUBS is because of local laws. Sexual contact is ILLEGAL in most of these towns and cities. No one here is going to get a permit to open up a Sex club (unlike parts of LV). And, as goofy as that sounds...the chances of getting a strip club license and making your club "mainly a sex club" is better if you push that it's "just a strip club".
    Exactly the point.

    In SF though, it is a bit further stretched as local law enforcement and DA are aligned with the purpose of these clubs. In fact, Mitchell Brothers is clearly labeled on the big marquee sign as "Adult Sex Entertainment" that is hard to miss when entering. This is different from stripclubs in the city. MSC yields a big banner of a busty woman with the phrase "TOUCH the magic!" in bold letters underneath.

    Moreover, even local newspaper/magazine ads make the distinction pretty clear. A recent Chronicle ad for Mitchell Brothers contained the tagline- "Beautiful women, okay to grope!" MBOT is much more of a hybrid club though- due to the famous name, the clubs high cover ($40 PM cover), big club layout, higher class level of the women, and cleanliness inside, there are plenty of gentleman-club style visitors and the rich and famous also prefer this club as well. Think of it as a sex-optional sex club, with lots of 9-10 upperscale ladies within (at least nightshift anyways)..

    Much along the lines of Kat's original reply, it's baffling that anyone living in or near SF wouldn't know the distinction between the MSC/MBOT sex clubs and the city's many traditional stripclubs. Hell, 90% of the tourists travelling know the distinction so a local feigning ignorance of the difference doesn't make a lot of sense.
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    Polecat-I think it all gets down to experience. My experiences with stripclubs were more along the lines of Oregon clubs...dancers dancing, customers drinking, no sex. Down here my experiences were limited to places like the Gold Club or Centerfolds...thus my surprise. But now I know. Glad I didn't bring my wife to that club though, might have been her last trip to a strip club.

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