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    I know not all clubs do "dollar dances,' but I have a question for the girls who work at one that offers these little 'tastes.' Do you try and make most of your money through a ton of dollar dances, or do you concentrate on selling the private dances? Personally, I've done both. When I first started dancing, it was at a smaller club, and I found it far easier for me to simply ask for a dollar- I was not yet brave enough to push for the couch dance. As a result, I made around 150 a night, with my biggest take ever being 297... Then I moved to a club that sold lapdances by the set- and starting price was 35. Dollar dances were only initiated by the dj during busy nights, and for a few minutes at that. It was a quick 20 bucks. Average take home was around 600, but it could be more if you worked at it. Now, the club I'm at, most of the girls make their money by dollar dances. I am one of few husters who's goal is to get to the couch. I very rarely bother with the cheap special, because I think it's just too much work for a single dollar. However, if there's a big group I'll go over, or if I think I can turn it into more than just a buck, I'll do it. But generally, I can make from 200-350 a night; respectable for the club and the area. But I still think more is out there, and I want it!

    What have you ladies found... do you bother with dollar dances? Lots of guys think they can have 20 different women for a buck each is a better deal. How do you all go about convincing them other wise???

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    I have found that clubs that concentrate on dollar dances or have nightly dollar dance specials tend to attract extreme cheapskates, which leads eventually to the club income decreasing. So, clubs that have dollar dances on a regular basis have low earnings potential and should be avoided.

    If a guy wants spend a buck on 20 different women he needs to sit his cheap ass at the tip rail and stay there.

    The only times I have found dollar dances to be profitable is when they were part of a charity fund raising event (which rarely ever happens at a strip club)...in which case the type of men attending them were usually spending more than a dollar for a "dollar dance" (i.e. tipping $10 per each dollar dance, things like that). Had I kept the money from said events I would have done ok moneywise, but since it was for charity I would end up donating it instead. Which is nice in itself, but I can't be doing charity work all the time and still pay my bills!

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    I will do everything in my power to hide out during dollar dances so that management doesn't find me. Usually, I can get my customer to "claim" me and I will just give him a couple of $20 dances during the promo so I am still moving.

    I'll do it if mgmt. finds my ass and drags me out there, and I find it lucrative for finding future dances, but its still mostly bollocks!

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    Fuck a Dollar Dance

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissKitty link=board=9;threadid=12975;start=msg168153#msg168 153 date=1094070561
    Personally, I've done both. When I first started dancing, it was at a smaller club, and I found it far easier for me to simply ask for a dollar- I was not yet brave enough to push for the couch dance. As a result, I made around 150 a night, with my biggest take ever being 297... Then I moved to a club that sold lapdances by the set- and starting price was 35. Dollar dances were only initiated by the dj during busy nights, and for a few minutes at that.
    Audrey's intellecually stimulating response aside, you are are on the right track in your philosophy. I've had this scenario posed to me in a variety of sales trainings I have done and the answer is always the same so I'll tell you what I would any other salesperson.

    Let's say you are a sales person selling two different things. For simplicity sake, let's say it is a salt shaker and a pepper shaker. Now, let's say you sell your salt shaker for $100 and your pepper shaker for $10. Now, for each pepper shaker you sell, you make $5 in commissions and for each salt shaker you make $80 in commissions.

    Typically, you've never had a problem selling pepper shakers for $10. There has been a lot of demand for them and they are easy to sell. The cut isn't that good, but you do okay in volume. So let's say in the course of one week, you can sell 200 pepper shakers. Since they are easy to sell, you push them more than the salt shakers. You sense that people aren't interested in them as much so you don't focus on selling them. Occasionally though, you'll sell a few a week by chance. Let's say you sell five a week. So at the end of your week, you've managed to earn a grand total of $1,400 in commissions ($1000 for pepper shakers and $400 in salt shakers). The challenge is, as with most people, you think that selling salt shakers is more difficult. You have to use more selling skills and talents to sell them so you rarely want to. You fear selling them.

    The reality is though, that selling salt shakers is just as easy as selling the pepper shakers, you just never realized it. So you get some sales training and learn just how easy it really is. So now when you go out, you start thinking about selling salt shakers more. You soon realize that even with minimal effort you now are able to persuade people that salt shakers are really a better buy than the pepper shakers. So now you are discovering just how easy it is to sell salt shakers now that you have the proper training and the right attitude. You start selling more and more of them so you find that now you are selling 50 of them a week instead of 5 and only a few pepper shakers. Your commissions have gone up several fold and you are amazed at how much money you are making. You get to the point where you never want to sell pepper shakers again because you have overcome your fear of selling the salt shakers.

    Selling dances is no different. Once you learn how to get really good at selling the $20 dances, or even trips to the VIP/Champagne room (if you have one), you'll never even bother selling the cheaper dances again.

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    It sounds like you've already maximized your income at that club. I just have one idea. This probably isn't worth it on a busy night, but it can't hurt on a slow night.

    If you make 200 doing lapdances that means you've done ten lapdances or twenty where your cut is ten dollars. Lets assume twenty. Lets assume ten different guys. Now if you sell those guys a couple dollar dances first... ten guys times two dollars... that's an extra twenty. It could make a difference on a slow night.

    I do that with lapdances and champagne rooms - if I have a customer who wants to do a champagne room, I'll tell him that I'd prefer to do a lapdance first, just to "be sure that we have good chemistry" or whatever. If a guys already paying $200 for a CR, he doesn't mind dropping $20 for a lapdance, and at the end of the night it can be an extra $50 in my pocket.

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    My personal opinon is that I don't care for dollar dances,nor do I care for clubs that offer those.
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    I use the dollar dances to get them hard and then ask for the laps.If they say no I just smile and say maybe next time and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audreyhepburn link=board=9;threadid=12975;start=msg168270#msg168 270 date=1094086016
    Fuck a Dollar Dance
    I hear that!

    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine link=board=9;threadid=12975;start=msg168261#msg168 261 date=1094083964
    I will do everything in my power to hide out during dollar dances so that management doesn't find me. Usually, I can get my customer to "claim" me and I will just give him a couple of $20 dances during the promo so I am still moving.

    I'll do it if mgmt. finds my ass and drags me out there, and I find it lucrative for finding future dances, but its still mostly bollocks!
    The two clubs I've worked in that do them are Hustler Baltimore and the Great Alaskan Bush Company. I try to hide out during them as often as possible too and am usually pretty successful in parlaying that into getting to do some real dances. My last night at the Bush Company I hid towards the bar during them, after turning down a few guys and getting some "Oh, you're too good for dollar dances?" comments, and found a guy that spent about $300 on me (in dances and tips) over the next 45 minutes.

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    I left a very well known club chain in LA because they started with these specials like half off or 5 dollar dance night. Screw that. Plus the worst thing was they had and still have this billboard in one of the crappest areas of LA like they are just asking for extreme cheapskates.

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    Bleh, I only use them if a customer is being resistant to a full dance, and say "at least let me give you a dollar dance" so that at least I don't feel like I completely wasted my time. It can be profitable, like say you have two or more couples together [oh my god, one of the worst case scenarios] and you want to at least make some money - I've been able to make about $20 off the group, because none of the group wants to go off for a dance, but likes to "give their buddy a dance/see their wife get a dance." But, overall, the suck. Also I've found that once you've done your 'dance' the customer wants to turn his attention elsewhere - might as try to get 20+ out of them instead of one or two dollars.
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    I usually go out of my way to make sure my customers are happy, but I THIRD "FUCK THE DOLLOR DANCE!"

    There is no way in hell i'd waste my time giving out a dollor dance when i could be giving 25 dollor dances, with the potential of getting them in the champagne room.

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    My club advertises "Home of the $10,000 dance for only a dollar" because of the Mike Price thing which I'm sure you saw on the news. So I am very pressured to dollar dance which I hate. So I came up with a better way. I refuse to remove my top in a dollar dance. When the customer asks me to it's the perfect opportunity to entice them into a private show. Works well if they have the money. And doesnt make me feel so worthles for danceing for a freekin buck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine link=board=9;threadid=12975;start=msg168261#msg168 261 date=1094083964
    I will do everything in my power to hide out during dollar dances so that management doesn't find me. Usually, I can get my customer to "claim" me and I will just give him a couple of $20 dances during the promo so I am still moving.

    I'll do it if mgmt. finds my ass and drags me out there, and I find it lucrative for finding future dances, but its still mostly bollocks!
    Haha, I remember one prominent Las Vegas club doing dollar dances one year during the Superbowl week. They did them early in the evening. I avoided them the first day by hanging out in the bathroom locked in a stall pretending to throw up (manager didnt dare bother me then LMAO) and the second day hanging out with a customer who had essentially rented me for the night. The rest of the week I purposed showed up for my shift late so as to miss the dollar dances altogether! Eventually the club stopped running them because the club soon became emptied of girls during dollar dance time, with maybe 10 girls working Superbowl week at 9 pm., all the girls showing up too late (on purpose) to do dollar dances, which in turn was costing the club money by losing customers (because there were no dancers to be found for any type of dances or put on stage).

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    My club has $3 dances instead so I dont mind it so much. My main goal is to sell the reg dances but the $3 ones are a nice supplement. They also get me motivated and out into the crowd

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    My club does dollar dances, we actually count to 5 slowly in our head and then it's over.. I will only do $5 dollar rounds and may count to 10. lol Most of the time, I end up with a dance out of it so I don't mind. I only do the rounds if it is super slow or at the start of my shift.



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    One club locally does a $5 "tits in your face" type of thing... when the dancer has reached her second song of her set in which she becomes topless... she then parades around the room ("on the floor") accepting the $5 tip and giving the guy a quick little dance or "tits in the face".. it is really quick.. maybe less than a minute.

    The dancer then proceeds to go back on the stage and finish her set. It is the only club around here that does this... it is their form of the stage-side tip.

    Hmm.. now that I think about it.. and since my current club did away with stage-side tipping... it is now the ONLY club that offers something other than private dances. All the other clubs in my area (Surfers Paradise) have 'free' stage shows (no stage-side tipping when doing your stage 'set&#039.



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    I guess I am the only one on here that is in favor of the dollar dance. I personally love them. I get the chance to be in the crowd and not constantly talking to some jerk (on weekends the bar is full of young ones with their GF's). They usually don't have the cash for a dance ( I know it sucks!), but even if their GF/SO is there, they don't mind giving away a couple of bucks.

    I can tell you for a fact, if I had not have done dollar dances last Fri. nigh I would have only made $120. Since I did do them, I made $270. Which is roughly $150 just from dollar dances!!!

    And I only walked the floor 3 times doing dances then to boot! Average $30 the first round, $40 the 2nd round, and by then the guys were ready for it. And around $80 the last round. I will not do them at all on weekdays, but on the weekends, it's a damn near must to make anything at all.

    There were girls last Fri. that only took home $20. On a weekend night with almost 300 guys in the bar! WTF?!
    Our bar has done a BIG no-no. The weekend, the place to be if you are anybody is my club. Male, female, BF/GF, it dosen't matter. All it is now is a nightclub on the weekend. With dancers thrown in for flavor. There are about 55-60 girls working there right now, and about 35-40 of them refuse to work weekends because of it. I will work them if I am forced to, but I hate it!!!!

    So I do what I have to do, but I will say this dollar dances have saved a horrible night before and turned it into a decent one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitana link=board=9;threadid=12975;start=msg170702#msg170 702 date=1094495072


    There were girls last Fri. that only took home $20. On a weekend night with almost 300 guys in the bar! WTF?!
    Our bar has done a BIG no-no. The weekend, the place to be if you are anybody is my club. Male, female, BF/GF, it dosen&#039;t matter. All it is now is a nightclub on the weekend. With dancers thrown in for flavor. There are about 55-60 girls working there right now, and about 35-40 of them refuse to work weekends because of it. I will work them if I am forced to, but I hate it!!!!
    It&#039;s like what I keep saying about pop-culture saturation. These people think they&#039;re being sooo cool, mackin&#039; in the strip club, running up a high bar tab, and as far as they&#039;re concerned we&#039;re part of the decorations like a damn light fixture. Luckily my club isn&#039;t that bad about it yet, but I see that trend more and more each year.

    Kitana, it&#039;s great if the dollar dances have managed to turn a lousy night for you into a decent one. At the clubs I&#039;ve worked in that offer them, however, the possible $20 or so that you could stand to make from them wasn&#039;t worth the embarrasment I felt while doing them.
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    Hmm, I would try selling lapdances to the girls from the guys more than anything else. It&#039;s not easy, but try to get them to consider if they&#039;ve ever had one, do they know what it&#039;s like, why do guys get to have all the fun?
    Man, I hate the young crowd. LOL Seriously, I worked this past Sunday, it was a holiday, had so many drunken girls "here&#039;ssh a dollar!" woot. Made money, though, yay.
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    Guys, let&#039;s look at Dollar Dances from a glass half full view instead of the other way around.

    Because of inflation, I think they should be $5 now but that is not the issue LOL.

    Momentum is a big factor in earning decent consistent money in a club. And in all reality, the way many clubs are run today is comparable to selling Armani suits in a blue collar mall.

    You have a nice looking club, valet parking, bathroom attendant, Champagne Room, white tablecloths, and 70% of the customers are young guys and girls in groups, with a few older guys in the mix if you look hard enough. And these are not your GQ variety of guy.

    Now, with a floor full of girls and regular dances of $20 and a crowd who is not really interested in paying for company, not necessarily beacuse they are cheap, but because of their maturity level and age, how do the girls make money?

    A hyped up DJ and 30 second dollar dances done by all the dancers mandatorily for about 10 minutes creates momentum and "wakes" up the crowd.

    With the crowd in higher gear, you now have the opportunity to sell some of the guys regular priced dances and with the DJ continuing to pump things up this surge could create the momentum for many of the dancers to start making money.

    We all assume that everyone has plenty of money to blow in a club and that is not true. How many times have we all sat around in a club where it was full of customers but not the right kind of clientele to sell high priced dances? So we paid to work but made no money. Dance promotions and pushing the stage and our time up there can be the difference in making $200 or so off of this crowd or not getting our payouts back, right?

    In some small clubs I work at we ask for $1 dances after eaach set. Of course some guys give you $2 or $5. For the guys who won&#039;t buy regular dances, if you can sell them dollar ones that helps your bottom line, doesn&#039;t it?

    The problem is when girls only ask for $1 dances and don&#039;t try to sell the regular priced ones.

    Where I work these are the girls who rely on stage tips, $1 dances and only sell regular dances if the guy asks them, and get their $300-$400 club pay on Saturday nights.

    Promotions are needed in clubs as the clientele varies from night to night, and so does the money spending momentum. EVERY DJ should have the authority to run 2/1&#039;s, dollar dances, and push spending when it is sluggish.

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    We all assume that everyone has plenty of money to blow in a club and that is not true. How many times have we all sat around in a club where it was full of customers but not the right kind of clientele to sell high priced dances?
    This is the main problem with my current club. The only way to make decent money is to sell the $100 Xrated show (20 mins, open leg work, touching above the waist, nude) as we have to give $15 of it to the club. Therefore it&#039;s a waste of time for us to sell the $50 (15 mins, no touching, no open leg, nude) version.

    Luckily.. this same club has recently brought back stage-side attention which is $20 (topless only).

    Granted.. the momentum is very lacking in my club.. we don&#039;t have dollar dances.. the cheapest is the stage-side topless shows for $20.. and not everyone partakes of them. *sigh*



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    My only problem, as I said before Tina, about dollar dances is for me it becomes harder to sell a larger dance after that. I could probably have talked someone into it, but if the moment I approach they hand out a dollar and after I finish say "Thanks, good luck tonight" it has kind of killed the sale before it began. Yeah, it&#039;s a $1 or 2 more, but still.
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    I must be weird, because it seems like the dollar dances help me to increase the number of dances that I get. We do it for about 5- 10 seconds, then it seems like the customer wants more. This is more advertisment for me, so I like to do them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina link=board=9;threadid=12975;start=msg171244#msg171 244 date=1094590141
    Because of inflation, I think they should be $5 now but that is not the issue LOL.
    At my club, the entire private dance is $5. If the guys were told they were getting a $1 dance, they&#039;d expect way more that 5 seconds worth.



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