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    Ugggh I hate my club right now! I hate going to work and being treated like I am bothering guys buy asking them if they would like a dance. I am sick of all the cocky young guys that come in and take up space not spending a dime. I am sick of the guys who say "no I don't want a dance but I will buy you a drink" Where the hell do they think they are? A nightclub like I am just some woman trying to meet guys! I really want to get out of dancing but untill I finnish my education that isn't an option. I wish I could try out another club where the patrons could actually respect the fact that I am working there! I am not really sure what I am afraid of but I am afraid of something. I see some of my dancer friends who go and work at other clubs and say how rewarding and easy it is to get dances and make money. It seems too good to be true sometimes but when I have a shit night at my club that is all I can think about. I guess what I am afraid of is being dissapointed. I just don't know what to do anymore!!!!

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    Default Re:So frustrated with my club!

    maybe go with your friends to the club they work at.
    I know they say the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence,well,thats because sometimes it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilac666 link=board=27;threadid=13575;start=msg177462#msg17 7462 date=1095601173
    I really want to get out of dancing but untill I finnish my education that isn't an option. I wish I could try out another club where the patrons could actually respect the fact that I am working there!
    Sounds like overall frustration with the occupation. Besides, from what I hear a club that's guaranteed dances/money is Shangri-La right now. That is, it doesn't exist.

    Sounds like last night was pretty crappy. Sorry about that, and yes I think your club is suffering under the expectations of the new club that will open up. However, I wonder if things will really change that much with the new place. I suppose we'll see.

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    I'm starting to become paranoid about going into a club without a grand in my pocket...which simply ain't gonna happen.
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    Well, Lilac...with college back in session...this may drop off a bit. They will hopefully have too much homework to spend a lot of time at the club. Hopefully the business men will come back in force.

    At least at my club...that's what happens. I've been on LOA and my friends called telling me that I should make a comeback soon...as the boys have left and the men are back. Maybe it'll be that way by you.

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    Well,my suggestion is switch clubs for a while so you don't burn yourself out.Try working at a more upscale club where they cater to a more mature crowd.Hang in there girlfriend.
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    Default Re:So frustrated with my club!

    Lilac it sounds like the level of money that used to be in your club is to longer there. My advice would be to continue to dance at your current club and visit some other clubs to get a feel for them. Ask the management if they have a night you can dance and see if you like the club. Most clubs will allow it especially when the prospective dancer is young and attractive like you are. Good luck!!! And remember things tend to pick up some in the fall!!!

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    What you are experiencing in your club is present in most clubs.

    More young customers who just aren't in to spending money for company, more dancers, and less older guys who are the target customer.

    Plus many clubs who try to be upscale don't have the clientele to support their format anymore and aren't bright enough to change things as the crowd changes.

    If you have a younger clientele, the stage needs to be pushed and dance specials need to be constantly run when it is apparent that few dances are being sold by the girls.

    The DJ needs to constantly announce and push the dances and in clubs where this happens, more guys buy dances and if a guy sees other guys surrounding him buying dances every song he will most likely feel obligated to buy also.

    These low key "upscale" clubs are becoming boring.

    I don't think the time of the year besides the holidays really changes the fact that the clubs lack momentum.

    I make the bulk of my money from guys aged 40-60 who regularly frequent the clubs I book at and who keep in touch with me. I still make money off of stage and the crowd, but not the 3 figure amounts that keep me above water.

    Plus you work in an area if you're in the same club where events nearby drive the target customers.

    You may do better in a few of the suburban clubs, or some 45-60 minutes out of town that work on bookings where you can develop an older following without as much competition. If you can line up maybe 3 clubs like this and work a different club each week 3-4 days a week you won't get stale and should have some loyal older guys who come to see you the week you book each month. Some of those clubs are only open 4 days a week and they are listed in the little adult mazagine at your club or at the costume store next door.

    Sometimes change is good.

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    Lilac,

    I also wasn't making what I thought I should make at my club, which I've been dancing there for almost 4 years. Its a very comfortable atmosphere, my friends are there but it wasn't justifying my spending 8-9 hours a shift of my time there. At that point I forced myself to go and venture out. Even if you only go and check other clubs out, maybe work one day and make just as much as you make now at least you tried. My thing is, don't continue to do the same thing and expect different results. I also work alot better when I'm not around my familiar surroundings, my friends and regular customers to conversate with. When I am in a new place where no one knows me or me them, all I do is hustle,hustle, hustle. After being at a club for a while anyway you get bored or sometimes frustrated with the same routine, the same stage same DJs not playing what you requested, the same girls having drama every night they work, still getting drunk. asking to go home early, yada, yada.

    Make the change and see how your energy level and profits increase.

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    I'm getting pretty upset with my club too! No money and lots of drama... :o
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    Plus many clubs who try to be upscale don't have the clientele to support their format anymore and aren't bright enough to change things as the crowd changes.
    I'm afraid the new club that I'm currently dancing at.. well.. it is going to have to go this way.

    The main problem is that the Gold Coast doesn't have a dedicated CBD.. where it is located is regarded as tourist central.. and the biggest employer (and industry) on the Gold Coast is Tourism/Hospitality... and so it is going to be a little hard to attract (at first) the right clientele with this club.

    It is a really nice upmarket club. Definately the classiest and most elegant here by far. Just that.. esp. last night.. the avg. age of patrons was under 30 !

    I'm hoping that the yougins will eventually move on.. so that the older patrons will start to frequent the club. We'll have to see.. it has only been open since Friday last week (to the public).


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    Quote Originally Posted by shedevil4260 link=board=27;threadid=13575;start=msg177803#msg17 7803 date=1095656370
    I'm getting pretty upset with my club too! No money and lots of drama... :o
    Same here


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    Time to do what I finally did when this was happening for me.... I quit.

    I quit.. went on a holiday.. then decided to travel around for awhile before coming back home finally.

    Exposing myself to a whole heap of different clubs in different locations (not just within the same state as me) allowed me to not feel frustrated anymore. Thanks to the experience I know I can now work anywhere without a problem... I know I can adapt.

    I have more options.

    I took the risk. It paid off BIG TIME.

    That's all it is... are you willing to take a risk without any guarantee that things will be better "at the other club" ? If you don't take the risk.. you shall never find out if, indeed, you are better off where you are or elsewhere.



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    Lilac, have you tried working different shifts at your club? Maybe skipping the weekend crowd and trying the weeknights? It may be as simple as that. It may not be.

    I think taking a working vacation could also be a big help. Find a club in a city you can get to by road trip or by a cheap airline - do some research on here about the club, and go work there for a few days or a week. Some places will hire you just based on an emailed photo. You'd be amazed at how much you can learn about your job this way, it will also put the situation at your club into perspective.

    Taking a step back from your present situation is the best way to figure out what you want to do.

    There is a benefit to switching clubs too, that is, you're the fresh face and customers always like someone new. Good luck!

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    I and other people have also posted about being in similar situations. We feel your pain.

    Luckily in my club there is still a decent enough weekend crowd that you can weed out the guys that are just there "hanging out" from the guys that actually want dances and rooms. I still get aggravated with my club a lot though, mostly because management has their head up their ass. They're nice people and all, but it's a corporate club, so...

    Anyhow, the road trip idea, if you can swing it, seems to work the best if you're stuck in a rut. You don't have to go across the country to do this, necessarily. Sometimes just a town or two over can do the trick. I know some dancers can't go someplace totally different because of kids/school, but if you can, go for it, if you live in an area where there's a fair number of clubs to choose from.

    I know it's easy to get discouraged, especially now with September being "transition month" and summer ending (which by most accounts on this board and talking with other dancers was generally awful money-wise, myself included).

    Yes, there will continue to be more kids in clubs just drinking and hanging out, but the older guys will continue to come in too. They just tend to come in during the week.
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    Part of being a top earner in this industry is knowing when to move on. Bridgette is a perfect example. The flip side, I'm finding out, is that if you life in one place for too long, you eventually run out of new clubs to work at...



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    Thanks guys! Great advice! I know I can always count on you girls for support! Sometimes it is just so frustrating!!

    Sherrill, thanks for that suggesstion on working different shifts at my club. Mabey if I switch Saturday for a weekend night I might have better results. I seriously hate Saturdays now. They used to be my best days but now the money has dropped and there are more bodies but less money going around. Too many young guys just wasting space! I need older men. I think more traveling guys go to the club on weekdays anyways.

    Strangly my Thursdays have been great! I have an occational dud here and there but lately they have been my best nights by far. I am guessing it is because I hardly see any young guys there. Older guys don't want to be sitting next to pimply faced wanna-be thugs, while the DJ is playing techno music way too loud!

    So I decided this Saturday, if I don't clear at leat 300 I am going to try an extra weeknight and dump Saturdays. Thanks so much for that advice hopefully it will be rewarding!

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    Take a break! Don't have a breakdown, we all know how those get. If myou can afford it, go for it.... just take a week off (not to clean the house) but to just get in touch with yourself...
    And don't talk to the little idiots that annoy you, ignore them, when they don't want a dance, smile and walk on to the guys that do. If someone seems to be creepy and a little gross, politely move away. Just don't put yourself in a position to deal with their trashy attitudes, they are never better than you and the dancer is ALWAYS the boss...
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    Heres what I see (yeah Im not a dancer, but I see it none the less). These broke ass youngins come in and all the younger girls flock to them because there "hip" or "cool" or whatever, even though they dont spend a dime. So meanwhile all the customers who actualy WOULD spend money are sitting around, alone, because all the girls are being cool with the youngins, so guess what??? The guys who WOULD buy dances leave because theve been sitting by themselvs. Now, there ways around thins problem BUT, the bottom line is that the guys still buy a drink or two so the bar makes there money. So whatever can be done (and there are things) WON'T be because the clubs bottom line is being met.
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    This is why I gave up Saturday nights too.

    There is money there, but it really is like finding a diamond in the rough. You really have to work hard to find it.

    I've been mixing in some day shifts, which have been decent. The daytime regulars don't know me and I have that "new girl" thing going for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilac666 link=board=27;threadid=13575;start=msg177462#msg17 7462 date=1095601173
    Ugggh I hate my club right now! I hate going to work and being treated like I am bothering guys buy asking them if they would like a dance. [snip] I wish I could try out another club where the patrons could actually respect the fact that I am working there! [snip] I see some of my dancer friends who go and work at other clubs and say how rewarding and easy it is to get dances and make money. [snip] I guess what I am afraid of is being dissapointed. I just don't know what to do anymore!!!!
    1. Seems to me it's time to move on.

    2. Fear of disappointment or failure is one of humanity's biggest liabilities. Whatever you need to do to get past that fear, do it. You don't get anywhere if you don't try.

    3. You already know what to do. Go with your friends who've moved to other clubs and are making money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillydj link=board=27;threadid=13575;start=msg180600#msg18 0600 date=1096011064
    Heres what I see (yeah Im not a dancer, but I see it none the less). These broke ass youngins come in and all the younger girls flock to them because there "hip" or "cool" or whatever, even though they dont spend a dime. So meanwhile all the customers who actualy WOULD spend money are sitting around, alone, because all the girls are being cool with the youngins, so guess what??? The guys who WOULD buy dances leave because theve been sitting by themselvs.
    Ladies, I can't state it any better than that. I'm glad that I'm not the only one with that observation.
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    Strangly my Thursdays have been great! I have an occational dud here and there but lately they have been my best nights by far.
    Funny you should say that . Thurs. was my best shift more often than not, regardless of city.

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    gets like that all the time everywere. try another city. For a little while. Everybody makes 'newgirl' money. Also the guys can tell if your frustrated. Desperate people don't make money.

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    Sundays through Thursdays will generally attract more older customers as Fridays and Saturdays attract more locals and young guys in groups. Saturday nights I find to be better than Fridays as more older guys are in the mix, but they tend to come out earlier like between 5-9. Tuesdays and some Mondays have been my better nights.

    The older customers have families many times and don't get out on the weekend nights as much because of that.

    Bridgette is right about moving on. This is a fickle business and conditions change in clubs more than other businesses.

    You don't have to cold turkey your club but I definately wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket. If you are hooked up with a few other clubs you alwys have somewhere to work if/when things go south where you are, right?

    Nowadays clubs are seeing less customers and the big clubs with lots of overhead are slacking up a bit and embracing the young customers who come in groups because at $5-$10 a head cover plus one or two drinks a person, it makes up for the older customer base which has shrunk.

    As long as these clubs keep having plenty of girls showing up to work and new dancers always applying, despite the fact that the clientele has changed, why should they care about the dancers incomes dropping?

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