Does anybody have a problem with imported Romanian women nastying it up in their clubs?Why do these girls have to do that (handjobs, fingering, pussy licking, etc). Isn't $15 a week enough? ???
Does anybody have a problem with imported Romanian women nastying it up in their clubs?Why do these girls have to do that (handjobs, fingering, pussy licking, etc). Isn't $15 a week enough? ???




I would have to agree with you on that... it is certainly a problem here in Toronto aswell. There are lots of different theories on why they do it, but bottom line is its disgusting and it makes it harder for the clean dancers to make money!
Originally Posted by Meea link=board=27;threadid=13828;start=msg181618#msg18 1618 date=1096157389
This thread is so not going to turn out well is it?
<recalls similar thread from months ago.....>
"Have you ever been to American wedding? Where is the vodka, where's marinated herring?" - GB
"And do the cats give a shit? No, they do not. Why? Because they're cats."-from The Onion
Originally Posted by Mia M
There are plenty of "clean" Romanian dancers, let's not lump them all into a group. I know plenty of American women who do the same shit...Originally Posted by Meea link=board=27;threadid=13828;start=msg181618#msg18 1618 date=1096157389
After reading your post in I did a bad thing, my one thought is: why are you pointing fingers at anyone?





Agreed, nastiness is not confined to any particular nationality of dancers. However, in the case of Eastern European dancers there is an additional factor which comes into play. In point of fact many Eastern European girls have hooked up with (for lack of a better word) "expediters" - guys who often have some gimmick established which allows them to obtain US work visas for Eastern European "performers".
Girls using this route to enter the US often wind up owing the "expediter" large amounts of money in exchange for their transportation and work visa - with the "expediters" readily showing the girls how they can earn a lot of money in a short time by offering (by American standards anyhow) very high mileage in US strip clubs. One would assume that the "expediters" might also get very belligerent towards the Eastern European dancers if they don't kick back large amounts of money to the "expediter" on a regular basis.
Its human trafficking, and you can blame all of these desperate women as much as you want, but behind them is an exploitive group of mafioso predators taking advantage of them.
There are solutions, but just blaming one nationality, or race, on the problem isn't helping anything at all.![]()
"Have you ever been to American wedding? Where is the vodka, where's marinated herring?" - GB
"And do the cats give a shit? No, they do not. Why? Because they're cats."-from The Onion
Originally Posted by Mia M
amen katrineOriginally Posted by Katrine link=board=27;threadid=13828;start=msg181811#msg18 1811 date=1096199252




There are numerous girls that are traffic into the SC of Southern California from Eastern European countries. I've danced with a couple of them. Like Melonie noted these women usually owe thousands of dollars to these expediters/pimps. I've worked with eastern european women that stick to the rules of the club and those that do not. I think it depends more on the personality of the person in question with a mixture of a fucked up situation then on the nationality or racial background of the dancer.
I may have many faults, but being wrong ain't one of them.
i wont say anything on this matter lol.
to be honest. ive met some DAMN nice czhec republic chicks since being in tokyo. and a nice russian.... they arent all bad, its just sometimes you meet bad ones, ive learnt....
Boy am I gonna get my ass kicked for this, but I gotta say, these Romanians in Canada are D.I.R.T.Y.
I don't know who brings them here of how much money they owe their pimps, and I don't give a damn either. They lower standards for everyone with their nastyness. We've tried to talk to them before about not fingering themselves (anal too) and fucking themselves with beer bottles for show but they don't listen to us. They just don't get it that we're all in it together and we can keep things positive and respectful - its not like the old country here: YOU DONT HAVE TO 'HO IT UP' MUCH TO MAKE MONEY IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD. I mean, c'mon.
At my club there are 55 Romanians, 5 Canadians, and 1 token black chick. Us 6 Canadians get disgusted night after night with these girls.
For the record, however, the two dancers who I respect the most are the exeption to the norm. They are both Romanian, very sexy and sophisticted, neither remove their panties completely on stage, and neither do floor work. Neither ever show pink, and both are amazing preformers. They are also the top earners.
The rest, however, are straight up nasty.
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Lol....somehow I think they'd be a little too aggressive for this biz. On the other hand, they'd leave a nice body count of annoying customers in their wake!Originally Posted by MojoJojo link=board=27;threadid=13828;start=msg183239#msg18 3239 date=1096354913
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This is interesting. Obviously the club has some racket going on with some Eastern European mafiosos so they can bring in cheap labor. And I bet the girls are being nasty so that they can get after-hours dates with these customers too......Originally Posted by shes_so_blonde link=board=27;threadid=13828;start=msg183324#msg18 3324 date=1096380818
There is lots of shady shit going on here. Since you're outnumbered, I don't think there is a way for you to kindly suggest to the ladies to put on a classier act....
I know its not the best solution for the club, but I would leave if it affects your earnings. That kind of stuff doesn't bother me if its the norm though as it brings in lots of customers. You just do the ROB thing....its your choice, good luck!
"Have you ever been to American wedding? Where is the vodka, where's marinated herring?" - GB
"And do the cats give a shit? No, they do not. Why? Because they're cats."-from The Onion
Originally Posted by Mia M
Well I have worked alot with Easter European girls.. I have met some good ones and I have met alot of bad ones. I and the whole crew (3 or us) or American girls told our manager either we go or they go! He increased their house fee and restricted their emm "drivers" to only bringing 2 girls (they would bring any amount to the club sometimes 5 girls each). Some of the Eastern Europeans I work with have been living in the US for a long time and they tell me certain "drivers" bring over prostitutes and some of the girls have loose morals and will do anything for a dollar.
My advise to you complain to management. If they don't respond then they have something set up. Find a new club. I know working with girls like that definitely hurts your earnings. Good Luck.
I wonder what would happen if all the girls who could speak proper english threatened to quit over this shit?? It gets worse every night, especially lately with business slow. My regular came in last night and missed me and today he called me and said that he got a bj for $50 extra!!!!!
I like dancers from Eastern Europe. Some of them are pretty hot, with porcelain faces...almost doll-like. Too bad some of them give the others such bad reputations.
Ther'es a girl from the czech republic at my club and she seems like a very nice clean dancer. I have also worked with russian girls and a girl from croatia, and all were clean dancers. Maybe it's a thing in canada? I dont' know but it seems really unfair to lump dancers of one ethnicity all together. Is there a cleaner club you could work at where most of the dancers regardless of ethnicity aren't performing extras? Why is management allowing this stuff anyways?
no comment here either. I have met a lot of women that have/do extras and it all breaks down to being desperate for $$.
I decided to no longer judge, but to feel sorry for their circumstances, and eventually they will get caught!



This is the most racist post I have ever seen on stripperweb, you can't apply allness or stereotypes to one specific group of people, it just isn't right, comments like this should be kept to yourself Meea.





This is a very similar situation to the way most AMPS are set up. Asian women are brought to this country and set up with work visas and a place to sleep. The fee for this can be as much as $30,000 or more. These girls are basically sex slaves until they pay off the debt. The difference of course is that an AMP is basically an Asian whore house and everybody involved knows this.
Obviously a strip club is a different story but, for whatever reason they are here, these girls probably are not going away. Ultimately the club has to decide what sort of reputation it wants. My hunch is that many of these girls where probably prostitutes in their homeland and are simply applying themselves the best way they know how to pay off whomever it is that they owe their soles to. Management has to decide if that's an ellement they want on the premesis or not. If they let these girls work then the clean dancer has to decide if she can co-exist with these ladies or not.
I have personally never seen a girl fuck herself with a beer bottle in toronto. My club is pretty seriously romanian. The women are NOT being trafficked; that is pretty much an urban myth (here queue all the people claiming to know girls who have been kidnapped, etc.). And I don't think they are nastying up the clubs. And they definitely don't make it harder for me to make money. And who cares (except the police) if they finger themselves on stage? How can that possibly make a difference to you?
Sorry, I can make money, even with higher mileage girls in the club. It is not a big problem for me. If the business gets too rough for me, I'll quit, not demand that it conform to my standards. So I have limited sympathy for dancers who want to blame their own lack of fiscal success on other girls. When you add racial profiling it's just scapegoating of ridiculous magnitude.
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I understand your concern; however, I think there a quite a few enlightening comments regarding this topic, so I will leave it for now. I will watch it closely.Originally Posted by ChocolateKiss
As for the topic, I have met quite a few Russians, E. European girls who just do some nasty shit. Then again, I have met just as many American, Mexican, Puerto Rican, Dominican, Brazilian girls who do the same.
Sorry, must reply again to this; they are most certainly NOT. Most of these romanian girls are far more educated and, frankly, intelligent, than your average North American dancer. People assume that "this" is all they are good for, because they travel to do it, and because they don't speak very good english or (god forbid) speak it with an accent people assume that their intelligence is subnormal.Originally Posted by yoda57us
I have taught that the sky in all its zones is mortal and its substance was formed by a process of birth





Well, you're in Toronto and I'm not so I'm certainly not going to argue your factual knowledge of the women you work with. However, I do want to make it clear that I was not, or at least not intentionaly, trying to imply that this is all these women are good for. I aslo agree that one's command of the english language or the accent they apply to speaking it has nothing to do with their intelligence.Originally Posted by Jenny
I haven't met too many good ones and I do try hard to avoid the customers that they give dances to for the reason alone that what I provide is nothing compared to what they have already.
I do know that they do not behave the same way in their country, well most don't... Not only are there "pimps", but it's also that their visa only allows them so much time so they make the most of it by doing anything and everything they can to make and save money, form allowing customers to do what they want, working 14 hour shifts each day and only buying one outfit to wear.
I don't like them, but I don't hate them.... They are willing to do what they can and I'm not so I just try to ignore what goes on and come across as a hot chick that will give you a pleasurable time without dirtying myself.
Please don't lick me, it tickles..





A group of 11 'clean white American' dancers including myself tried this a few years back ... i.e. bringing an ultimatum to a clubowner to either fire or clean up the handful of 'dirty' girls (almost all of them Eastern European) or we would quit. The clubowner thought about it for about 30 seconds, then fired all 11 of us, then made a couple of phone calls. Before we had time to change into our street clothes and leave the club, more 'dirty' Eastern European girls had magically appeared.I wonder what would happen if all the girls who could speak proper english threatened to quit over this shit?? It gets worse every night, especially lately with business slow. My regular came in last night and missed me and today he called me and said that he got a bj for $50 extra!!!!!
The bottom line here is that if 'dirty' dancers sell more private dances on expectations by customers that they'll get 'more' for their money, and if the club collects a percentage, then the clubowners are financially benefitting from the 'dirty' dancers. If the word on the street that 'extras' are available attracts new customers to the club, then the clubowners are also financially benefitting from the 'dirty' dancers. Thus don't delude yourself into thinking that a clubowner will hesitate to fire 'clean' dancers who present him with an ultimatum !
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