I'm gonna do this cure : eat only organic grapes for at least 3 days and up to 7 days ! It's very good to clean up your liver and your body ! Drink only water too !




I'm gonna do this cure : eat only organic grapes for at least 3 days and up to 7 days ! It's very good to clean up your liver and your body ! Drink only water too !



im in the middle of a 10 day fresh squeezed orange-juice fast & i feel amazing !
That's a starvation diet. There are better ways to do a cleanse that don't deprive your body of needed nutrients.
Where did you hear about this?
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You shouldn't do something like that for more than 48 hours IMO....
And you will lose water weight if you lose any weight, but that isn't so bad. I don't think that fasts and detox are all they are cracked up to be.....
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Originally Posted by Mia M
I'm with Ryan on this one; juicing fasts are an excellent means of detoxing, though I'd recommend variation in the juicing products during the fast myself, i.e. wheat grass, grapefruit, et al.
The problem lies with folks that retox by returning to the average American diet instead of pursuing something more organic and metabolically consistent and by falling back into a lifestyle that doesn't lend itself to health.
Two cents.
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I heard about that from my mom and she did a degree in naturopathy and been practicing for 10 years. It is not to loose weight but to clean your body and give it a rest ! It's very good for your body ! There's alot of other cures as like the one Ryan is doing or only vegetables cooked in water kind of like a soup but without the soup base ! I'm not saying it's good for everybody but with all the junk we put in our body it's good to give it a rest !
AMEN! Crystal and Ryan and CO! I agree totally. I just got done with a grapefruit fast.
OMG, I feel so much better, and I got rid of my cold like 4 days sooner than average. I still drank tons of water with it, but just ate the grapefruit.
I agree, some of the fasts can't be too good for the body over longer periods. But they can't be as bad as fasting for 40 days and 40 nights either.
Kitana



Talk all the junk you want about fasting. I judge by results. When I fast, I notice huge differences. And the bs about "just losing water weight" is just that, BS. Your body will stay the exact percentage of water, and will use any excess fat for fuel, then muscle - but that takes WAY longer than I am fasting for. I went 7 months on fruit last year and still maintained a muscular physique so that shows me that I was not depriving myself. Now, I am not an advocate of long (more than 2 years) of strict raw-vegan, but fasting and doing raw food diet is the only way I can get rid of all the shit that has been building up for years. Keep in mind that raw foods is a CLEANSING doet, not a BUILDING diet. If you guys want to look loke the Calvin Klien models, you will need more than just fruit in your diets, but even wheatgrass has 42% protien, which is higher than any animal foods. Just look how big and muscular animals like deer, giraffe, elephant, and cow get existing on a diet of just grass. There is a raw food bodybuilder named Stephen Arlin who is 220 pounds of pure muscle built entirely of raw foods - so it is possible. And his endurance and health is far beyond a cooked food eater, becsue he is eating man's ideal food. Everyone knows fresh and raw organic foods are good for you and make you have energy and feel healthy. You can all even do an experiment: eat just meat for a week and then eat just oranges for a week and let me know how it turns out. I already know the results. Oranges will make you look radiant, feel energied, clear headed, and overall just happy. Meat will make you tired, and your breath will stink/body odor, and a general shitty feeling and mood will be present. I think it is so stupid that people say that fasting on fruit or fruit juice for a week is unsafe, but they have no problem eating a diet of dead, cooked, vitamin deficient pizza, pasta, and burgers week after week and year after year. The stupidity of humans is pathetic. Now, I am no genius, but it is pretty obvious what humans are supposed to eat. People are just so addicted to cooked food that they don't want to accept the truth. I mean come on- if we were supposed to cook our food we would have a stove attached to us when we are born.



Originally Posted by miss george link=board=5;threadid=13944;start=msg185035#msg185 035 date=1096562971
Sure you can reapir your body from eating unhealthy. I have eaten mostly a raw diet for 2 years and I "fixed" many problems caused from my first 20 years of life when I didn't know shit about nutrition. I look and feel better, and I have tons more energy. Sure, you can also improve your body by just eating a proper diet, but giving your body a break from food is NOT starving yourself, it is giving yourself a break to "clean house" and eliminate old junk that has built up over the years. Fasting is natures cure for sickness. Every animal, curing illness, automatically fasts. It is natures medicine. They are not "starving" themselves, they are curing themselves. Like i said before, I base my actions on RESULTS, not BS that ignorant people tell me. I will continue to eat what makes me feel good, look good, have unlimited energy, and make me happy. I have experimented with almost every "diet" and I prefer my "live-it", my consumption of mostly living foods. Like I said before, if I was supposed to cook my food I would have been born with a stove. Fasting works, and until you have done it, you dont know, so you opinion is useless. Basically, you are talking out your ass, basing your views on what you've been fed by the media - not on your own experiences. One word, ignorant.





Hey RYAN,how often should someone get a colonic?I'm thinking about starting this regimen.
One of woman's cardinal rule: Body parts can be fake,everything else has to be real.
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Well, I did one a week for 6 weeks when I first changed my diet. So that's a good start right there, just to start fresh and clean out all the junk. After that, like one every 3-6 months should be enough. Now, I have so much fiber in my diet that I am keeping everything moving along quite nicely.
The thing about colonics is that they are so beneficial in so many ways. They will make your skin literally glow. They will make you digestion and assimilation so much better becasue when you get all the mucoid plaque off of your intestines they will be able to absorb the nutrients that you are taking in. You will also notice weight loss, both due to the fact that you are getting pounds and pounds of old rotting shit out of your body, and you will be digesting food much better. Your hunger will go down beacause your body is actually to use the nutrients you are eating. You will generally feel much "lighter" and cleaner, your eves get brighter, your breath gets better, and an overall pleasant feeling will take over. At least, those are a few of the benefits I noticed. My indigestion, which bothered me for years, also vanished.
Look up Norman Walker on google, the world's largest promoter of modern colonics and see how he cured himself of a deadly illness using fasting, colonics and raw food. In fact, he consumed only raw food for the last 40 years of his life, and lived to the ripe old age of 119, even though numerous doctors told him he would never reach the age of 40. Fasting, colonics, and raw food are a 1,2,3 punch to rid our bodies of decades of built up toxins, and are proven time and time again to be stronger than any pill.





Wow,thanks!!!
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Originally Posted by miss george link=board=5;threadid=13944;start=msg185114#msg185 114 date=1096570222
Well, know it all - here is how your reliable medical journals really work:
Medical Research
Medical Research is expensive. But when the “return on the investment� is many, many multiples of the original investment, then it comes across as entirely worthwhile. From the viewpoint of the Pharmaceutical Companies, funding for medical research really pays!
But it does so in a curious way. Instead of the idea that more medical research will result in new and improved drugs, the real purpose of the pharmaceutical companies funding universities and medical research establishments is to include in the funding agreements non-disclosure and/or controlled disclosure (controlled by the pharmaceutical companies), such that negative research findings can be kept from the public view.
Well Being Journal, <www.wellbeingjournal.com>, has compiled a noteworthy report on this problem, which follows below. Also weighing in with additional understanding is a report by Jeff Donn of the Associated Press <http://www.nandotimes.com>, who has reported on an important article in the prestigious New England Journal of Medicine.
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Medical Research & Pharmaceuticals: For Health or Bank Accounts?
In September 2001, the world’s top medical journals established a new policy designed to give medical researchers what the public thought they already had: the right to publish the findings of their studies. In fact, most medical research is funded, at least in part, by companies that stand to benefit from the results, and, to that effect, the companies require researchers to sign agreements stating that they will not publish any data without say so from corporate head office. [This eliminates any hint of “independent studies�.]
In 1999, Eli Lilly, the maker of Prozac, received the results of one such study, which looked at the drug Olanzapine, the best selling antipsychotic drug in the U.S. Eli Lilly had hoped to show that their drug was useful for Parkinson’s patients. When the result came back negative, they did not alert doctors of this discovery. Rather, they put the data in a vault. The consequence, according to Joseph Friedman, a professor at Brown University Medical School, is that “the drug continues to be used inappropriately, harming unknown numbers of patients.� (Providence Journal, March 9, 2001.)
Drug companies provide huge sums to universities... and researchers know that negative results will put them at the end of the money train. As such, the move by the International Committee of Medical Journal Editors to give greater rights to researchers seems more akin to PR than radical change. As long as research is funded by drug companies, such policies mean that more pressure will be placed on making sure the results are positive.
David Healy, a research psychiatrist in North Wales, found that a certain antidepressant can increase suicidal and homicidal behavior in some users. When he reported this in a talk at the University of Toronto, the university retracted its job offer to him. Not surprisingly, the university receives millions of dollars in funding from, you guessed it, Eli Lilly. (Richard Degrandpre, in Adbusters: Journal of the Mental Environment, November/December, 2001, 1243 West 7th Ave., Vancouver, BC V6H 1B7, Canada, 604-736-9401, www.adbusters.org.)
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In May of 2000, the editor of one of the world’s premier medical journals wrote a critique of the medical research system, noting that science was being compromised by a growing influence of industry money. Jeff Donn, reporting for the Associated Press, noted that Dr. Marcia Angell, editor of The New England Journal of Medicine, has joined a wave of critics, who charged research funding from drug and medical-equipment manufacturers had added serious concerns of credibility of the scientific process.
“When the boundaries between industry and academic medicine become as blurred as they are now, the business goals of industry influence the mission of medical schools in multiple ways,� she said. Dr. Angell also noted -- as the journal’s outgoing editor -- that while rising research funding from biotechnology and drug companies has helped lead to some dramatic advances against many diseases, medical schools had struck a “Faustian bargain� with industry. She claimed that industry representatives were lavishing giveaway products and trips on doctors. Speaking and consulting fees, along with other compensation, was subtly -- are not so subtly -- swaying [or outright forcing] researchers toward favorable findings on products of companies making the payments.
Michael Werner, a lawyer for the Washington-based Biotechnology Industry Organization, said the “disclosures of financial ties and government regulation sufficiently protect the public. He said companies have every reason to shun poor research because of liability.� The truth, however, is that the research is slanted for quick profits, and the liability costs are often built into the price tag. One example is Vaccines which might cost as little as 11 cents per dose being priced at 11 dollars per dose -- the latter including obscene profits and liability contingency set asides.
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In a third, decidedly less polite article [taken from: “Let’s All Get Well�, by R. Gaudette, Maggie McGuffin -- Gaudette and the Wonders, The Wonders Press, Inc., Thornton, Ontario, Canada LOL 2N0, 2001, <www.thewonders.com>], the authors write:
“Just Say No to Drugs�
(But be sure to take your Ritalin before school.) Society says, “Drugs are bad for you, drugs will kill you; don’t drink this, it will kill you; don’t smoke, it will kill you; don’t take cocaine; don’t take LSD; don’t take hash and pot; don’t snort coke; don’t take crack and heroin, this will kill you. But do take antihistamines, do take aspirin and acetaminophen, do take all the pharmaceutical drugs that we can come up with! These are all good for you! Rather hypocritical, don’t you think?
You have drug addiction centers where individuals can get detoxed, some from crack, heroin and cocaine, and others from pharmaceutical pills. It’s okay to take a Valium, or two or three. If you’re feeling really bad, take four or five, not a problem. Drink a little drink afterward, not a big deal. But when you get to the point where you can’t handle it anymore, you come to us and we’ll put you into a detox center and get you all better so you can go back out and do it again. And we call this health.
Take a look at your health system -- in Canada alone, last year, over two billion dollars was spent on prescription drugs. [In the U.S. it is enormously more.] We assure you that the Mafia would love to get a piece of that. But the government isn’t smart enough to say to the Mafia, “Let’s take a piece of you instead. Let’s legalize cocaine. Let’s legalize heroin.� Why? Because heroin and cocaine are seen as bad drugs, but Valium is seen as a good drug. And never mind Valium, let’s take AZT, let’s take a number of other drugs and drug cocktails. Let’s take chemotherapy -- a little dioxin, dioxin and a little Agent Orange and stick it into your veins!
Take a look at the pharmaceutical basis of the drugs used for chemotherapy! We assure you [these drugs] are based on insecticides, pesticides and fungicides. Same basis. Slightly different chemical compound, but the same basis. So you stick a little Agent Orange up your arm -- hey, no problems. It stops the cancer in your body. Of course, it ruins your immune system, it ruins your body’s ability to replicate itself, its ability to heal itself. But, what the heck, at least you don’t have cancer.
“Look at us, we did a good job, didn’t we? Got rid of your cancer. Now, you can go, you can leave here. When you walk out the door and when your bones break because you have no more calcium in your body, it’s not our fault. We cured you of cancer, you didn’t come to us about the broken bones, you came to us for the cancer.� And this is what your doctors do. This is what your health-care system does.
Your health-care system and your politicians have been convinced by the chemical companies that theirs is the only way to heal. Your doctors have been convinced of this too, go take a look at your medical schools, where they teach doctors. One doctor teaches the next doctor, who teaches the next doctor the same thing, over and over and over again. “Take a pill, send him home. If you haven’t got a pill, then you can’t cure them. If you can’t cure them, then you’re not doing your job. You’re not a doctor, you might as well quit.�
You[‘re] giving away your empowerment. You convince yourselves that doctors, the medical profession, the pharmaceutical companies and your government have your best interest at heart. They know better, they’ll take care of you. They are the ones who will help you survive! [The pharmaceutical companies] make drugs because they make money. They make money because people have invested in the company, and those people who invested in the company want a return on their money.
By the way, who are the people who invested in the company? It’s you. [The people.] You take your money, you put it into the company and you say, “I’m giving you $100 and I want $120 back.� The company says, “To get you $120 back, we’ve got to go out and sell this many drugs.� So, what do they do? They convince other people to buy the drugs. How do they do that? They do it through advertising. They do it through manipulation. They do it through coercion. They convince the doctors, the doctors convince the health-care officials, the [legislators], the [state] governments, and everybody sits there and happily says, “Look at me, I’m making money.�
Of course, when the system collapses [and it will soon] then everybody will be screaming, not that people are dying [but that it’s] costing too much, not enough return on the money. We assure you that this particular scenario will simply continue until you choose to stop it. And the only way to stop it is to say, “No more.�
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