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    Ladies -

    I am thinking about starting a business and would like your expert opinions! Please note that this is NOT a request for customers - just doing some background research.

    I am thinking about offering a service to analyze your skin (mainly face) with a machine that would allow us to see under the skin and spot any potential problems before they become visible to the naked eye (digital pictures would be taken so that you could see it too). We can then work to prevent those potential problems from becoming problems. I would also couple this service with a skin care product line that guarantees more youthful skin (guarantees wrinkle reduction / prevention / helps prevent pimples, etc...)

    Do you think that there is a demand for such a service? If yes, why (I obviously think so, but I also want to know what the experts think)?

    Your input is very much appreciated!

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    They do something like that at shoppers drugmart here in Canada... I believe it is for the vichy range?... could be wrong.

    I don't know how much I would pay for such a service as obviously it is used to sell a line of products. If I buy a certain amount of products I would expect the service to be free or discounted.
    But its hard to pass that kind of judgement without actually having experienced the machine.

    At shoppers they do it for free.

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    Excellent point made. Let me clarify.

    1 - The skin analysis service is the main objective (not selling the products). We will use a specific product line because we like it and we know it works, however, there will not be any attempts made to persuade you to switch product lines. Obviously, if you are unhappy with your current line, we would encourage you to try ours - otherwise, there will be no sales pressure involved.

    2 - All of the comparable services in the U.S. that I am aware of charge a professional service fee. None of the services that I know have have made any attempts to be stripper friendly (such as providing the service at the club, etc.) If you are able to get the service for free at shoppers, go for it!

    Thank you for the excellent point.

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    Personally I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it at the club as I normally go in with make up on... But if I found a card at the club I would certainly make an inquiry.

    I am not sure if it the same thing that they do at shoppers.

    Either way good one you for looking into getting your own thing going. I say go for it, if you believe in it then it is bound to be a success

    Best of luck.
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    Isn't that what a dermatologist is for?


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    Another great question.

    1 -Dermatologists typically focus on doing procedures, which is more profitable.

    2 -If they do a skin anaylsis, they may just look you over with a magnifying glass - and you usually do not get to see what they see (with our equipment, you'll see the same thing that we see).

    3 -they don't have a mobile set-up to meet you at a convenient location and time. I've never been to a doctor's office that wasn't running 1/2 to 1 hour behind.

    4 -Also, they tend to charge 2-3x more $$$ than we are planning on charging.

    5 -if they do see something, many dermatologist will either recommend a procedure ($$$) or prescribe a medication. Since all medications have unwanted side effects, we plan to take a much more conservative and natural approach - such as changing diet, skin care routines, etc. Many common blemishes can be prevented / cured by simple changes in a person's habits. Obviously, there is a place for medication - we are not dermatologists - but there are often other ways of treating problems that have fewer side effects. If needed, we may even recommend that someone go see a dermatologist.

    Thank you Krysfor the encouragement and for your comments about the service - such as not actually doing it at the club. That is something that we had not considered...ladies showing up with make-up already on, ready for the stage...

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    I picked yes, but what I really meant was "If I thought the company was legit and I was convinced that it would be worth it".

    You haven't said what kind of technology you would be using. And if you have a product line, you can't say that you would be completely unbiased in recommending what products to use.

    I'd say #1, don't underestimate how much your customers know about skin/skincare/aging etc. As far as I can tell, most of us (dancers) are pretty obsessed with our skin, and consequently know a lot already.

    PS, girls, if you go to tanning beds, take a little pocket mirror in with you next time (even better- a magnifying mirror). It will scare the living shit out of you!

    And yes, I know tanning is bad for my skin! But, it keeps my acne away and I only go in for 10 minutes regular bed 2ce a week.

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    honestly I would be more inclined to utilize a service like yours if you worked in conjunction with a dermatologist. For example you had a room in the derm's office and made mobile calls. Or my dermatologist recommended you.

    I do like your holistic approach though.


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    Hi hq,

    This is what I am talking about that the do at shoppers. I couldn't save the exact page but if you go to
    http://www.shoppersdrugmart.ca/engli...ook/index.html

    Start the catalogue and its about 2 pages in.

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    Well said.

    - What factors would make you think that a company is legit vs. not legit? We are legit and want to make sure that we portray that impression - we want to make sure that we don't do anything that might make you think otherwise.

    - We are using a portable UV box that has 6 UV bulbs with a wavelength of about 350 nm. This wavelength won't cause you to tan or cause skin damage (like a tanning bed). This wavelength will make things such as clogged pores, congested pores, dry skin (you may think you have oily skin, but it's actually dry - there's a difference between oil level and moisture level), sun damage, circulation around the eyes (causes puffiness, dark circles).
    The box also has a mirror inside so that you can see what we see.

    - You are correct in that we can't be totally unbiased in recommending a product - we did choose the current product line for a reason! The machine will make it quite obvious whether or not your current product line is effective. If it is effective, there is no reason to switch. There are no laws in the U.S. that regulate the cosmetics industry and whether or not the products have to be proven effective in clinical trials. Sadly, most products only make vague claims because they can't prove that the product really does anything. We chose our product line because they have done clinical trials (which are NOT required by law) to prove that their products work. They also guarantee that they work. We have chosen a specific product line because it gives us a predictable baseline - since we know what it'll do, analyzing your skin will be more accurate and there are no unknown factors to cloud the analysis. Please remember that our goal is to make the service one of providing you with more information about your skin condition.

    - The fact that dancers care about how their skin looks and is interested in knowing about their skin is precisely why I am asking these questions in this forum and why we're thinking about targetting dancers for this service.

    By the way, scarlett_vancouver, there are other ways of keeping acne away outside of using a tanning bed. You may be trading acne free skin now for leathery skin and cancer down the road...it is generally agreed among dermatologists that ANY amount of time in a tanning bed is bad... If you're in a tanning bed and look in a mirror - the dark purple splotches that seem to get bigger with time is probably sun damage...which is pretty much irreversible...

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    krys -
    thank you for the link. It is a different service.

    miss george -
    I agree about the legal position. That's why we make it clear that we are NOT dermatologists.

    Sapphire-
    Good point. Here's our experience with that...
    - dermatologist either "look down" on us because we lack the same amount of education and our philosophy is different (most dermatologist prefer to prescribe meds to fix a problem vs. trying to figure out and eliminate the root cause of the problem)
    - they buy their own set up and we're out of business...

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    miss george -
    I'm sure that you'll understand if I don't post the skincare line - I don't wish to promote any one line in this forum. I also do not wish to appear to be trolling for customers.

    The consultation fee will probably be in the $30 - $40 range and will include digital pictures printed on the spot for your records. Consultations typically last from 1/2 hour to 1 hour, depending on the questions.

    In terms of saturation, we believe that there will be many people who will want to get a "check up" every so often. Also, that good service will lead to more leads. Analogy: Every house in the U.S. has a refrigerator in it, yet refrigerators continue to sell in the stores...

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    what about a plastic surgeon then? My ps has a skin aesthetician in his office. She does those mild peels and does skin annalysis (although I 'm not aware of the patient getting to see the horror photos lol). The point I'm trying to make is that for me personally, I'm more inclined to utilize the service of a doctor, or somebody associated with or recommended by the doctor.

    Also I'm trying to understand exactly what your service is...skin analysis, problem prevention & treating problems? And what exactly does the wavelength do? It appears as tho this sentence isn't quite complete..."This wavelength will make things such as clogged pores, congested pores, dry skin (you may think you have oily skin, but it's actually dry - there's a difference between oil level and moisture level), sun damage, circulation around the eyes (causes puffiness, dark circles)." Does it clear those problems or allow one to see them?

    I think you have a good idea I am just being honest about what I as a consumer would pay for.


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    My aesthtician offers something like this and I use it. It's worth the money to see what damage you've done to your skin, the problems your skin really has and ways to fix them. I like it.

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    Sapphire -
    My apologies on that convoluted sentence - I wrote it while seriously sleep deprived. The wavelength allows you to see the problem. I'm sure that you've heard the cliche that knowing that you have a problem is over half the battle.

    I have heard other analysts claim that it will help cure acne - though when I studied the scientific papers that were cited as references, I personally did not see any basis for that claim.

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    well I wish you the best of luck. Maybe if I ever see one of your devices I will have a look see myself of the sun damage. :o


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    miss george-

    Thank you for the insightful comments.

    From all of the comments posted thus far, and from reading other posts in this forum, we are seriously re-examining our approach to marketing our services to the exotic dancing community.

    Ladies - if you had a service that you wanted to market to dancers, how you you do it?

    Thank you for your insights.

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    hq-

    so would your products have any kind of guarantee, like use them for 3 months, then come back for a second (complimentary) photo/analysis- if you don't see a significant difference then you get your money back?

    By the way, scarlett_vancouver, there are other ways of keeping acne away outside of using a tanning bed. You may be trading acne free skin now for leathery skin and cancer down the road
    Yeah, I'm still researching the red/blue light therapy, but you know what- I live in Vancouver (not much sun) and barely go outside during the day anyways, so it's pretty neutral. I'd probably get ricketts if I didn't tan, lol.

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    scarlett_vancouver-

    Good point. I don't think that you'll do very well dancing with ricketts. LOL

    Of course our products come with a complete money back satisfaction guarantee. Obviously, we won't return your money if you've used multiple tubes of the same product (if you didn't like it you wouldn't have bought more than 1) - but if you do completely use up a tube of product and wish for a refund, we're more than happy to do that.

    There is much evidence that light therapy works - it's just a matter of getting the right wavelength. Our machine does not emit the correct wavelength to be effective (in my opinion).

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    We have very advenced technology to look into all the layers of skin at some Plastic surgeon offices. I have found most dermotologists offices are good as well, but not (seemingly) advanced as a Plastic surgeon when it comes to looking deep into the layers of skin with *light* and taking picturs of the "normal" skin aging, and sun damage etc.

    If you wish to promote some products in the future however, please post them in the market place, as alot of people check that forum out!

    Pamela

    PS never had skin annalysis done however, but have friends who have with advanced damage done to the skin from various reasons, sun, normal aging, medication, childhood acne and chicken pox they say.

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    If it was for free or a free trial, hell yeah!
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    I have had my face skin looked at with light, computers, and more (red) light. Plastic surgeon office. I have skin cancer, and thought that i would like to see face damage i can't actually see. Turns out i only have minimal face damamge due to sun. The plan of attacks now are Retin A for life, a chemical peel, acid wash etc.

    Now i see Loreal for one is selling a very very mild peel over the counter. That's only one company, many are following. With continued use acid works well over the counter, along with sunscreen day and night. This does NOT repair the damage done, just helps along with other potential problems. Retin A seems to be the best action for skin damage at this point, for an at home treatment. A light peel would do wonders for many with minimal damage as myself, i just feel i don't need it, actually i don't want it. I have friends at work who had this peel, it burns, stings etc.

    Hg, i thank you for not posting here the products you have or will be offering. Many of us will check out the market place.

    Pamela

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    I think I've seen a couple of these skin analysis machines at neutrogena places at the mall which they allow you to have a free analysis (I don't know if they are at every mall) but I've seen one at the Beverly Center and one at Hollywood and Highland.

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