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    The Naked Truth is an independent film with really bad acting. It is about two strippers and one prostitute who is a dancer and how they survive 'The G-Spot' in Atlanta. This film is a lot like a booty club in ny with fights, a sleezeball manager, and dudes trying to bag a stripper at the end of the night. However, the acting is really really bad!!
    They have another movie called 'Street Girls' from the 80s about a girl who dances in a club, her boyfriend is a drug dealer trying to get her onto heroin and all the girls/customers at her club are like prostitutes and pimps and her father is trying to save her.
    The Player's Club I never saw, but heard was terrible.

    MY POINT: Has anyone seen a decent stripper film without stereotypes/horrible acting???
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    No a movie about dancers without drugs, pimps, cops, mafia, or pushers does not exist in Hollywood.

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    "Overnight Delivery" with Reese Witherspoon and Paul Rudd. Reese plays the dancer. Very cool.
    "The Crossing Guard" with Jack Nicholson.
    "Striptease" with Demi Moore. Better than people think it is...
    "Gypsy" with Natalie Wood.

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    Dancing at the blue iguana is a really good movie.And it has really funny parts in it. It's not chessy at all. Plus, the music is awsome.
    Lenord Cohen, david bowie, ect... I highly suggest this movie

    A rewiew I found for this movie:

    First of all cudos to the people involved with this flick for trying something a bit different: it was almost entirely improvised, both by the actors/actresses and by the crew.

    So, that good idea aside, is it any good?

    Well, it's the complete opposite of Showgirls, so that's a great start! All exploitation aspects are kept to a minimum, of course to some degree such elements are inherent, unfortunately.

    Characters are incredibly well brought to life and explored, to the point where the stripping scenes become annoying and you just wanna get back to the protagonist's character arcs. Hey, I'm a red blooded male too, so if I'm saying this, well, that has to be testament to its power don't you think?

    I found it extremely refreshing how none of the sub plots are really finished off, you are NOT spoon fed. You are given enough information to fill in the blanks, and that's it. And you know what - that was nice, it was brave, and I appreciated it.

    A lot is conveyed subtly, with looks, or with how a person in the back ground is reacting. There's a couple of stripping scenes in which the came ra actually focusses almost exclusively on the girl's face. The first scene is very short, probably less than a minute. The chick's expression is amazing - like she's only hanging on to her sanity by a thread, so cold and broken, fantastically conveyed. The second intance is longer, and is genuinely heart rending. No words or additional explanation is required for either scene. Cinema at its best.


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    Fear City, made in the 80's, with Melanie Griffith doing some pretty good classic striptease dancing, and Tom Berenger providing the good guy/muscle.

    It's not a great movie, but compared to most movies about stripping, it's a masterpiece--even if they couldn't resist the inevitable Sex=Death bullshit, according to which no movie about stripping is complete without a lunatic killing the dancers in various horrible ways. Worth renting to see a young, sexy Melanie dancing.

    Carlito's Way has a subplot about stripping, in that Carlito's old flame (Penelope Ann Miller) is a serious dancer of some kind who strips in NYC to make a living. There isn't really that much to the club scene, but it is a great movie, starring many of the same cast as Scarface, especially Al Pacino and Brian DePalma (director). It's not the tour de force that Scarface was, but a very good movie nonetheless. It was the first movie in which Sean Penn breaks away from his stereotypical roles, doing a brilliant job of playing a lawyer who gets in over his head with the Mob.
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    Another, better, description of dancing at the blue iguana

    This film defies easy classification. *SPOILERS*

    Here is the short version, my friends. See. This. Film. NOW!

    Here is the slightly longer version. Whatever reason you may have had for initially watching DANCING AT THE BLUE IGUANA -- and I suspect for many of you, it was the promise of seeing a number of moderately well-known actresses writhing and flexing in the buff -- you'll finish this film for an entirely different reason: because you care what happens to the people in this film.

    There are several performances of great subtlety and nuance in DANCING AT THE BLUE IGUANA, performances of such heartrending mournfulness you'll come to feel that Sadness, Loss and Grief are as much characters in this film as any of those portrayed by the especially gifted ensemble of actors.

    Both the men and the women in this film are such heartbreakingly damaged goods, as we realize near the end, they are already irretrievable, overwhelmed by their alienation and disenfranchisement. It dawns on us that there are no "happy endings" for these people. We realize much too late that, even when we first met them, they were already forever lost to the rest of "polite" society.

    Everyone in DANCING AT THE BLUE IGUANA so desperately wants to connect to someone else; not for sex, not even for love but just to connect, to feel something legitimate, to feel something authentic, to feel something genuine.

    Every character in this film is desperate to feel something else -- anything else -- besides pain, loneliness and heartache that they will make the worst choices imaginable. They will strike up the unlikeliest friendships and the most horrifically inappropriate relationships one could possible imagine; relationships doomed to failure from start to finish.

    I was especially impressed by the fact that Michael Radford chose to take every "Hollywood" convention and turn it inside out. The days begin, the days progress and the days end, only to repeat anew. There are no backstories in the conventional, "Hollywood" sense. There are "origin stories." There are no schmaltzy redemptions. There are no false rescues. There is not a single deus ex machina anywhere in sight.

    I also have to mention a few particularly wrenching performances --

    Sandra Oh is amazing as Jasmine, a stripper, yes, but also a literate and gifted writer who composes poetry of such forlorn longing that one can almost taste the want and the need in her heart but, despite her tremendous gift (and even the faint promise of a budding love), she is unable to rise above her self-imposed limitations. We are sad for her as we realize that only person holding Cathy back is Cathy herself.

    Jennifer Tilly turns in an astounding against-type performance as an emotionally brittle stripper named Jo, who will literally do anything to keep the money rolling in. Unfortunately, Jo's emotional well-being, already held together by no more than spit and baling wire, takes a turn for the worse when she discovers she is pregnant.

    Sheila Kelly is a study in "less is more" understatement. Her character, Stormy, is something of a cipher, but not because of Kelly's performance, but because that's who Stormy is. Kelly brilliantly portrays her as thorny and complex...and I defy you to not feel like a voyeur when you see how Stormy explores her "there's-something-not-quite-right-going-on-here" relationship with Elias Koteas, a shadowy man from her past.

    My highest praise goes to Daryl Hannah, who gives an Oscar-worthy performance as Angel. As a person, as a human being, Angel is so grievously damaged, so grievously flawed, you just know she's never had a decent chance at life, much less a good life. But, at the same time, Angel so sweetly lovable and so sweetly simple and so sweetly needy that she will break your heart.

    Two moments in particular stand out:

    1. When Angel applies to be a foster mother, and tries to articulate to the social worker why she would be a good mom, but doesn't have 1/100th the education she needs to express herself and;

    2. When, after applying, Angel accidentally locks herself out of her car trying to take a picture of herself in front of a Blue Iguana billboard advertising her, only to be "helped" by a police officer who discovers a half-smoked joint in her ashtray. Her visible anguish at the thought of being arrested possibly disqualifying her as a potential mom will stab you through the heart.

    This film defies easy classification, which is just as well. It is supposed to be a difficult film to pigeonhole and I, for one, could not possibly be happier for it.



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    I rented "Dancing..." because of some positive remarks I'd heard here and other places. Sadly, I have to ask... was the character of Angel supposed to be mildly retarded? Even the girl she based her character on wasn't quite *that* stupid.

    What was Meg Tilly's character doing to the pole? I mean... we got that she was angry but does that really help illustrate it? Then of course she's angry so of course she has to be a Domme on the side. Yeah.

    At least no one was murdered... but the "Nico" chick/feature of course had to be a whacked out smack addict. I know they are out there but the film lacked enough balance for realism.

    It did have its moments though and is worth watching. If you get the DVD, the extras about how they studied their characters and practiced in the club were pretty good. I just wish they'd actually have paid more attention to the rather cool and down-to-earth girls they were studying. I have to respectfully disagree on the "great" part, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronika link=board=27;threadid=14125;start=msg186446#msg18 6446 date=1096792904
    I have to respectfully disagree on the "great" part, lol.
    You're nicer than I am. That movie was unwatchable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdalena_666 link=board=27;threadid=14125;start=msg186429#msg18 6429 date=1096785042
    Dancing at the blue iguana is a really good movie.And it has really funny parts in it. It's not chessy at all. Plus, the music is awsome.
    Lenord Cohen, david bowie, ect... I highly suggest this movie
    Really? I thought it sucked! I thought each girl in the film portrayed a different stereotype of dancers, from the dingy character that Daryl Hannah played, to the girl who had to separate her two "lives" and ended up crying in the club when some guy she met at a poetry or book reading club came in and she couldn't face him that way. And like Veronika said of Meg Tilly's character, "Then of course she's angry so of course she has to be a Domme on the side. Yeah."

    I think this movie is more damaging to our reputations than something like Showgirls, which is just outrageous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpy718 link=board=27;threadid=14125;start=msg186408#msg18 6408 date=1096779338

    MY POINT: Has anyone seen a decent stripper film without stereotypes/horrible acting???
    Well I would humbly offer Exotica by Atom Egoyan as the reigning champ of movies with dancing as a plot point or background. I thought the subject was handled wonderfully. No drugs, no pimps, no slashings.

    It struck me as a believable and sympathetic characterization which showed why some guys are drawn, for better or worse, to the environment.

    As far as the acting, you have such actors as Sarah Polley, Bruce Greenwood and Elias Koteas - and it doesn't get much better than that.

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    "Dancing At The Blue Iguana" is f*cking depressing.
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    My vote is for Exotica also. It had a decent plot line, is tastefully done and has very interesting characters.

    Although, movies like "Dancing at the Blue Iguana" and the HBO show "G-string divas" report some of the harsher realities of some dancers lives, it was nice to see something that was a little more meaningful as afx said, without all the drugs, scams, etc.

    It also shows something you don't see much, which is a customer who is not there for the usual "I want to go see titties, find a girlfriend, raise hell, etc.". The customer desires to escape from incidents in his past life and he has a devotion to a dancer which you desire to understand while watching the film.

    Many of you dancers that have had to play the psychologist/friend role will appreciate the dancer's perception of this customer, who may even seem to be a stalker during the film.

    The ending is also particularly good.

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    Djoser, carltios way is my favorite movie of all time. I would not of even known that was shawn penn had I not seen his nam in the credits. Though it is definitely not about dancing. The seen with penelope ann miller at the club is like a 5 minute seen. None the less awesome movie and the club she danced in was the scores of new york back then. Does anyone remember the name of the club? I think it was texas gold?

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    I meant scene.

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    Dancing at the Blue Iguana : I taught they had some great dance move and music and the documentary at the end was nice ! But yes it&#039;s true the characters are exagerated ! And it is depressing !

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    no i haven&#039;t...isn&#039;t that sad?
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    Oh my god Djoser you are so right about Carlito&#039;s way! I love that movie it is awsome!!

    As for realistic stripper movies I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever seen one beside documentarys. But they are movies, they are trying to make a juicy piece of entertainment for guys that are too guitly to rent porno movies. Acually I love renting bad stripper movies because they are so funny!! Bad acting, Bad eighties hair and clothes, Bad dancing and guys hollering and hooting at the tip rail. It is so bad it is good! Good choices:

    Dark Secrets
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    Showgirls
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlythebest
    "Dancing At The Blue Iguana" is f*cking depressing.
    I thought so too. Especially Hannah's character.

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    The Asian character didn't have it any better neither.The ending was so sad.
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    What's the new stripper movie with Natalie Portman, Jude Law, and Julia roberts that is out? Has anyone seen that? Is is any good?

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    Ah I saw the trailer for that when i went to the movies yesterday afternoon. Jude Law is suppose to be in a relationship with Portman (the dancer who wears many different wigs) but he gets sexually involved with Julia Roberts who has an SO also.

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    All the other stripper movies I've seen totally sucked...Dancing at the Blue Iguana being at the top of the list. Showgirls sucked...Striptease was a joke (I cannot believe she got paid so much money to do such a flop of a movie). Will check out some more...but won't hold my breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess
    All the other stripper movies I've seen totally sucked...Dancing at the Blue Iguana being at the top of the list. Showgirls sucked...Striptease was a joke (I cannot believe she got paid so much money to do such a flop of a movie). Will check out some more...but won't hold my breath.
    Same here. I was going to rent Dancing at the Blue Iguana but considering all the bad reviews, I think I'll pass. Striptease was a joke and I remember when I saw Showgirls, I was like "Wasn't that chic on Saved by the Bell??" How did she end up in this movie?

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    The only two stripper movies I have ever seen were Showgirls and Striptease. Showgirls rocked! Striptease kinda blew.

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    Dancing at the Blue Iguana was good. Darryl Hannah's character is SO FUNNY especially when she get's questioned by the cop and offers him all of her ones from work!

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