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    So what qualifies as an ungodly period of time ? To me, anything over 3 songs/15min is cutting into my income. I understand alot of guys want to get a general feel about a dancer prior to get a dance but I think 15 minutes is more than enough. Its a dance not a lifetime commitment- LOL.
    i agree. that's a resonable period of time. if i agree to buy 30 min of dances from dancer and she can't wait while i stretch my legs for a bit, then by all means leave. there are other fish in the sea.

    ALOT of customer try to pull the "I dont do dances" but I'll buy you a drink if you sit and chat. To me that is working for free and damn rude.
    i agree also. if he just wants to monopolize your time by talking and without buying dances then he should tip you.

    I feel tipping for talk is the ultimate respect you can show a dancer on the clock.
    IMHO, only if the guy is monopolizing your time.


    In this business, time is money. If you want my time, then you give me money.
    hmmmm...that's so weird. my second ex-wife (or was it my third) used to say the same thing.


    Of course, there are contextual conditions to that statement. The first two songs are a business investment on my part; time to determine if we have chemistry, if I find you interesting, if you're just going to waste my time and vice versa.
    chemistry? what are you talking about stripping or speed dating? seriously, power control in a sc? it goes both ways. the money is in MY pocket. i'm not buying dances from her just because she's standing naked in front of me. the other girls in the club are doing the same thing. what makes her so special?


    Frankly, I rely heavily on my conversational skills. I don't give extras and don't EVER take my top off. I must therefore make up for this by being exceptionally good-looking, a witty and intellectual conversationalist and by giving superb dances of uncommon caliber. Experience has taught me that many consider my conversation, alone or in combination with dances, to be truly valuable and I treat it as such.
    i'm sure you do quite a nice job of selling "THE FANTASY" . however, i'm sure that experience has also taught you that just as many don't consider your conversation to be truly valuable at all.

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    hmmmm...that's so weird. my second ex-wife (or was it my third) used to say the same thing.
    You had to pay your ex-wife(wives) to spend time with you? That is... so sad. You have my pity.

    chemistry? what are you talking about stripping or speed dating?
    Are you saying that you'll pay money for any beastly old thing to dance on your lap, just so long as she is a female?
    Most fellows (ie; anyone but you, apparently) want a woman who trips at least a few of their triggers. They want someone with _______ (insert adjective: blond hair, red hair, big breasts, short) who is ______ (slutty, classy, mentally stimulating, willing to dominate him and make him feel like a bad boy) and that is what they pay for. In other words, chemistry. An attraction of some sort, usually met by falling into certain catagories.

    Dancers have their own requirements, usually aimed at "business chemistry" (though it helps if he is also attractive in some manner). Does he reek of body odor, is he too drunk to even get it up, does she have to spend most of her time re-directing his hands back to their proper place, does he have money and if so, how much, and (for the long term thinker) can she get along with him well enough to make him a regular customer?

    seriously, power control in a sc? it goes both ways. the money is in MY pocket.
    Big deal. It may just stay there. As in any business relationship, just because you have money to wave around does not mean any dancer is required to conduct business with you.

    i'm not buying dances from her just because she's standing naked in front of me. the other girls in the club are doing the same thing. what makes her so special?
    Chemistry.
    i'm sure you do quite a nice job of selling "THE FANTASY" . however, i'm sure that experience has also taught you that just as many don't consider your conversation to be truly valuable at all.
    Doesn't matter in the slightest. As someone already pointed out, no one bats 1000 in sales. No one bats 1000 in anything, for that matter. From a more everyday perspective, I'm sure most of you have, at one point in time, been turned down for a job, a date, a loan, etc etc. The response is the same; smile, wish them well and take what you have to offer to the next bidder, who will likely be more appreciative. It does not mean that what you had to offer was not valuable, just that the person/entity to which you offered it was not looking for what you had at that particular point in time.
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    I must therefore make up for this by being exceptionally good-looking, a witty and intellectual conversationalist and by giving superb dances of uncommon caliber.
    Are you fucking kidding me, "superb dances of uncommon caliber"? Give me a fucking break. Can you be a little more full of yourself? Would that even be possible? You must come from the stripperweb school of "we are all such artistic burlesque performers that integrate our ballet and gymnastic backgrounds seemlessly into the perfect erotic dance routines (blah, blah, blah)". That sort of crap needs to stay over there. Here's a thread that you and any other shit-don't-stink-like-the-rest-of-us stripper ho's might want to read.
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    Are you fucking kidding me, "superb dances of uncommon caliber"? Give me a fucking break. Can you be a little more full of yourself? Would that even be possible?
    *snort*

    Beg pardon, ML. Before writing that post I was heavily involved in a political debate about the legalization of prostitution. Perhaps I was still in "intellectual" mode and used too many big words. I'll put it the way my customers usually do:

    "GREAT dance! Can I have another? Will you be at work on Friday? How about Saturday?"

    You must come from the stripperweb school of "we are all such artistic burlesque performers that integrate our ballet and gymnastic backgrounds seemlessly into the perfect erotic dance routines (blah, blah, blah)". That sort of crap needs to stay over there. Here's a thread that you and any other shit-don't-stink-like-the-rest-of-us stripper ho's might want to read.
    I thought everyone knew that a stripper's shit doesn't stink. It actually does smell like roses; that is why we are predestined from birth to become strippers.

    And you thought all this time that it was body spray. Silly man.
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    You had to pay your ex-wife(wives) to spend time with you? That is... so sad. You have my pity.
    awwww...i'm so touched...don't be sad. nowadays, i just pay them to stay away from me. it works out better for all parties involved.

    Are you saying that you'll pay money for any beastly old thing to dance on your lap, just so long as she is a female?
    define "beastly". i seen plently of beastly looking dancers. however, i know that many guys would think otherwise.


    Most fellows (ie; anyone but you, apparently) want a woman who trips at least a few of their triggers. They want someone with _______ (insert adjective: blond hair, red hair, big breasts, short) who is ______ (slutty, classy, mentally stimulating, willing to dominate him and make him feel like a bad boy) and that is what they pay for.

    to answer your first blank question: i'm not really particular on those choices.

    to answer your second blank question: that sounds like a personality. well, i'm not really interested in that either. you see, Lilith. i like sc because it only requires me to use my reptilian hindbrain. a conversation with a dancer in a sc goes a little like this:

    lap dance..good..boobies..good....beer...good...talkin g bad...grrrrrrr.

    perhaps you should have included a third choice like....can she give a lap dance so good that the experience would leave you a shell shocked husk of a man unable to do more then drool and rock back and forth in your seat. you'd have to post to the SCJ by blowing rhythmically into a cardboard tube with what little bit of functioning gray matter you have left.


    Big deal. It may just stay there. As in any business relationship, just because you have money to wave around does not mean any dancer is required to conduct business with you.

    you're partially correct. no dancer is required to conduct business with me. OTOH, no dancer has ever turned me down because i do have money to wave around.


    Doesn't matter in the slightest. As someone already pointed out, no one bats 1000 in sales. No one bats 1000 in anything, for that matter. From a more everyday perspective, I'm sure most of you have, at one point in time, been turned down for a job, a date, a loan, etc etc. The response is the same; smile, wish them well and take what you have to offer to the next bidder, who will likely be more appreciative. It does not mean that what you had to offer was not valuable, just that the person/entity to which you offered it was not looking for what you had at that particular point in time.
    my point exactly. i'm sure there are plenty of guys who will pay for what you're offering. however,there are just as many who aren't even remotely interested. i would never step foot in an air dance club. however, i'm sure that someone else will be happy to go to one.




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    I often get guys who want to stay in the VIP for 2 hours or longer- who wants to wait for 2 hours ya know.....and I am certainly not loosing that for sure money to go out on the floor to see if that" talk to me for free" customer is ready for a dance yet.
    And that is exactly why I don't tip for talk. My playdate is prearranged. The dancer knows she will make more with me even when I am low on funds than working the floor. Tonight was an incentive plan. We took several off the clock breaks, talking for at least 45 minutes on one. My girl had no problem staying with me or running a tab while I talked with other friends that were in the club when we were apart. One guy begged for dances from her after one stage. She said she was busy with someone else. He said: "How long? 1 hour? 2? I'll wait." She said: "Sorry. Feel free to cheat on me. I'm booked." LOL. I suppose I should say that is the ultimate in respect a dancer could pay a customer but it might just be old fashion greed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishnet link=board=1;threadid=116;start=msg2565#msg2565 date=1067534492
    I don't pay them to talk. They get paid to dance. Sometimes it is by the dance, sometimes x number of dances for x amount of money and others it is time/money where dances aren't counted but she does dance the whole shift minus video sales and other breaks. In the latter case, she may be on the clock when we do some of the talking but it is reflected in the total paid. In my case they would be foolish to do anything but stay till my money is gone. LOL.

    The times I saw the ATF out of the club were off the clock as well.
    This is so me.


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    I have girls that I buy dances from and girls that I don't. Some of the ones I don't buy dances from still like to sit and chat when it's slow. I do not pay them for their time but I make sure that thier glass is never empty. I pay the girls I get dances from for dances. They choose to spend time with me sitting and chatting because they feel the investment of their time is worth the final pay-off in the LD area. The only acception to this was my now-retired ATF. We would sit in the private dance booth and talk (at very close range!) but, for the last 5 or 6 months, I told her to keep her dress on. I've never done that with another girl on a permanent basis but this woman is not like any other dancer (or woman for that matter) that have ever known.
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    So you just go there and talk with her now Yoda? Does "keep your dress on" mean no more dances or dances without nudity?

    I feel you on making sure their glass stays full. I do the exact same thing. I feel no obligation to pay my ATF for time spent at the bar chatting. I do, however, make sure she has whatever she wants drinkwise and also tip the bartender quite nicely too.


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    moneywise: You missed the "now retired" part. She stopped dancing almost a year ago.
    The "keep your dress on" meant no more lap dancing, just talk, hugs and a lot of laughing. I never would have expected her to spend an hour or more with me in the middle of a busy day without compensation.
    It's easy to find a beautiful woman in a strip club and buy a hot lapdance. For me an ATF relationship involves an emotional connection with a person that goes beyond the physical aspects of the lapdance-the communication between your two brains is the biggest part of what makes it an enjoyable experience.
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    I don't pay them to talk to me. I more or less pay them in drinks if they are sitting with me when the waitress come around. And they'll usually stick around for a while. I don't hold them up if she is trying to work.

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    Paying for "talk-time" is BS. Just another dancer scam as far as I am concerned. I don't have her handcuffed to the table...she can get her butt up and leave if she thinks I have no money.........her loss. "Talk-time" is what I consider foreplay with a girl I have not met before. I do not want to give a dancer 100+ bucks for dances without knowing something about her.. It is just common decency for a girl to spend a little time getting to know her customers.......kind of like an investment. I will pay one of my regular girls for sitting with me if I don't feel like a dance...but that is because they have taken the time to get to know me... For a new dancer/customer relationship..it is part of the game.

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    I don't think paying a dancer for "talk time" is a scam since I spend more time and effort with my customers than most dancers. I totally entertain them from the moment I sit with them at their table. Many men tip me on top of my dance money for exactly that reason. I don't scam them out of the money or ask for it.

    It is a pick and choose option on both sides so if customer number 1 is nice and tips me extra to sit with him and customer number 2 is a pain in the ass and doesn't want to pay me anything extra, well, it is an easy decision to make.

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