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    This ties into ML's thread about SC visits being strictly business.

    How many chances or strikes do you give a fav before you cut her off at the knees and quit doing business with her? I find myself being too much of a softy. Since over time, feeling s develop, I tend to give too many chances.

    Real world if a new lady breaks a date, she's done. That's it. # flushed down the toilet. By the same token, if someone says they'll call and don't the number should be flushed. It indicates low interest level.

    For some reason I find I'm more lenient with strippers than I would be outside and it bothers me. ML is right! It is strictly business. It kills me that I make excuses or give extra chances to strippers when I would not do the same for someone on the outside. Are you guys able to keep it just business? Or do the lines become blurred? If she rocks your world every time she dances, is that enough despite any other SS and drama you may encounter from her?
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    O.K O.K. I'm putty in her hands!
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    If she rocks your world every time she dances, is that enough despite any other SS and drama you may encounter from her?
    Exactly! When that stops, it's time to move on!
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    I've never had the opportunity to cut off a fav. They usually cut me off first by moving. [cry]

    And lately, I haven't hit any club with near enough frequency to get a new fav established. But as spineless and forgiving as I am, I'd let a gal burn me a few times before saying sayanara.
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    How many stars are there in the sky ???

    She'd have to get on the club speakers and announce to all the world how tiny and shrivelled up my Johnson is and what a PL I am. Even then, I might give her one more chance LMAO

    If you believe that, Ill sell you a 75% interest in the SC that was for sale in Costa Rica for only $250,000 I have connections LOL
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    Ok Fish, youre a bud and deserve a serious answer LOL

    I do cut the dancers lots of slack, and frankly, dont hold them to the same standards as I would a woman (or man for that matter) in the real world. Heres an example (Fish, I think I mentioned this to you before) This took place a couple weeks ago:

    While hanging out at the club, Miss C (one of the 6 LOL) asks me if I could pick her up the next day and give her a ride to the insurance office so she can pay her SR22 and get her drivers liscense back. She lost it due to a DUI, well...actually two LOL. Of course, I agree. I like Miss C and dont mind helping her out. Anyway, we agree she will call me the next morning around 11AM and give me directions to her place. Guys, I had no ulterior motive (well, not much anyways ), Im just a nice guy I put my late morning/early afternoon schedule on hold so I would have time to do what I committed to do. Guess what? No phone call...nuttin. Was that inconsiderate or what?

    I havent seen Miss C at the club since then but Im sure when I do I wont kick her ass like I really should. If she were a real life person, you can bet I would raise holy hell . Im a big time believer in doing what you say youre gonna do. Obviously, Im holding strippers to a lesser standard. Hadnt really thought about it til Fish posted this topic.

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    Damn! There was more truth in the first answer then you led us to believe. LOL. Your example in the second is exactly the type of thing I'm refering to though. No wonder we are all stuck with the PL title.

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    Two disappeared. (one found a life-time sugar-daddy, the other a call to a different area which I don't care for) Two I had to finish up with.

    The two I had to finish up with, came about, when the problems or deception had to do with outside promises or possibilities when I was not even asking for them. Nowadays, when they say they want to do "X or Y" outside, I just say "That's up to you!". And it usually gets left there.

    Say or do what you want with me in the club or what you want to do out back. But don't fuck with my "outside insides". You get a one-way ticket to not seeing me again.

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    For some reason I find I'm more lenient with strippers than I would be outside and it bothers me. ML is right! It is strictly business. It kills me that I make excuses or give extra chances to strippers when I would not do the same for someone on the outside. Are you guys able to keep it just business? Or do the lines become blurred? If she rocks your world every time she dances, is that enough despite any other SS and drama you may encounter from her?
    I don't think it is unusual to give a dancer that you especially like multiple chances. It helps to have a stable of many dancers that you are into, to make it easier to blow off any particular one, but if you see the same dancer regularly it is easy to get into the habit of letting them jerk you around. I would advise against it though, but have ignored my own advice before. What I particularly don't like is when you call them to see if they are going to work that day, they say they will be there, and then they don't ever show up. Unreliable.
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    My Atf calls me to ask me to come in after she has already arrived there. Since she makes her own schedule, if we spoke earlier in the day so many things could come up to prevent her from coming in, this leads to no wasted trips.

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    What I particularly don't like is when you call them to see if they are going to work that day, they say they will be there, and then they don't ever show up. Unreliable.
    That would be a termination offense for me barring something like a car accident. I drive too far to make a trip for nothing. We hit 25 out of 25 times when we confirmed. She would show even when so tired she was falling asleep while dancing. The one time I missed, I trusted she would be working her posted hours and didn't confirm.
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    I'm laughing like hell because I've been exchanging PMs with FBR. He told me about 8 of his girls and I suggested proper reasons for eliminating 5.

    He said: "Damn it's hard to kick the bitches to the curb!"

    I know how he feels! If I had listened to my hard-ass business sense, I would have done the same to my ATF when she became a problem in April. Instead, she got more chances and pissed me off even more. There were some damn good nights too so it was kind of a wash.

    It's business guys! Trust your instincts and you won't go wrong. Let her walk on you and you will regret it.
    And you will be out major $$$$!!!! Common Fish! Get yer hard-ass face on. LOL.
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    How many chances or strikes do you give a fav before you cut her off at the knees and quit doing business with her?
    I believe in the great game of baseball: three strikes and you are out! Of course, there is always another inning or two to be played.... and then--if those additional innings also produce similar results--there is always another game or two to be played....

    Only with my ATF would I ever consider deviating from my 3 strikes & you are out rule. Why? 'Cause I'm basically a masocist (and I'm also 100% devotedly in love with her).
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    He told me about 8 of his girls and I suggested proper reasons for eliminating 5.
    LOL, up to 8 girls now FBR, sounds fun !

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    If you put up with nonsense, you get no respect. If you give money for nothing, you get no respect.... You need a system of rewards and punishments. A favorite dancer once tried to scare off other dancers by exaggerating what she did with me in champagne. I put her on probation: no dances for 90 days.... Once you have a rep as a no-nonsense guy who doesn't give second chances, dancers don't try to play games.

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    To me there is a difference between inside and outside the club relationships though. A dancer may get a strike outside of the club and still have my patronage inside the club, as long as she doesn't cross me inside the club. The two worlds are separate, and I try to keep them that way.

    There are two types of relationships: customer/stripper and friends or lovers. I make the dancer pick one. Don't expect me to see you outside of the club like we're friends and then spend money on you in the club. If you do that then I just have to assume that you are really just interested in the money and not friendship, so don't waste my time stringing me along. My point is that a dancer may act like she's interested in the friends type of relationship but make a mistake and reveal that she really isn't. Then, the friends relationship is ruined, but we can still have a good customer/stripper relationship inside the club. Ruining one type of relationships doesn't necessarily ruin the possibility for the other type.
    I hope you make that clear to the dancers when you leave your number with them. I am very suspicious of pretty women expressing desire to continue the relationship outside the club. Almost immediately a red flag goes up.
    You have to investigate the implied meaning of the exchange of phone #'s. Some people do want a friendship outside of the club but still want to maintain the business relationship with you. It's alright if you become friends with the grocer and still be a customer of his. I don't think the business relationship will desist if you choose not to be friends with him.
    If you get into deeper commitments like you want to establish a bf-gf type relationship then I think most women feel they will have to give up the business relationship with you and others to honor the commitment. It is important that you both understand what the other expects from the exchange.
    Then on the other hand the person could just be forgetful or lose track of their appointments. It's a matter of knowing what kind of person you are dealing with.

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    There's somebody I would like to give my number to and become friends with outside of the club cause I think he's wicked nice, but I've read how that can really mess up an in the club relationship, so I don't know what to do... any suggestions?
    When you meet up with this person the next time go over exactly what your position is with them. Do you want to see them as a business associate or do you truly want to get to know this person. Are you/they trying to make a sexual connection? If you don't feel comfortable with them suggest "neutral grounds" that they can meet you at (preferably somewhere public in case you run into trouble). Give only a third party's number ( a friend's, a business, a cell phone) until you feel comfortable enough to give a direct line.




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    If you have an open communication going with your ATF then why not just ask? "What's going on here?" If your ATF is one of the top girls at her club you also have to realize that you as a customer have to be up to standards also. There is always another guy who is cuter, has more money, or is just more fun to be around. I'm sure you are many of these things though, Fishnet.

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    If you have an open communication going with your ATF then why not just ask? "What's going on here?" If your ATF is one of the top girls at her club you also have to realize that you as a customer have to be up to standards also. There is always another guy who is cuter, has more money, or is just more fun to be around. I'm sure you are many of these things though, Fishnet.
    LOL... well JM, the problem is women, not just strippers don't always do what they say. My first fav, always agreed with me and said she would be better yet never changed her behavior. My ATF also always agrees with my points and would fly right for about a month and revert. Most of what brought this topic up happened April through July.

    As far as the second point, you are right. At my club in Sac., I was the only one that would come in and spend the kind of money I did twice a month. It was definitely in her best interests to take care of me as I was accounting for about 30% of her income. Now that she is in the land of real high rollers, she has outgrown me as a customer and I told her so at dinner. She has no problem making $2500 a night. She has people like the owner of Scores offering to pay her a full shift just to hang out. (she didn't believe it was just hanging out so she went to work) Or millionaires like Fernando Valenzuela more than willing to pay the $500 an hour tab for one way contact dances. That's way to rich for my blood and I would expect a lot more for that price. There are better dances for $400 an hour at at least 4 clubs down the street. Plus you can just dial a number and have a "stripper" come to your hotel for privates. There was a special $50 for the first half hour. LOL. I'll bet they reamed you for the second half. Soooo basically with the ATF it is all moot. I was just wondering if others were able to treat there favs as they would someone in any other business. Except for Sporty it looks like the human factors do come into play with others too.

    Despite all of the above, things didn't really change when I saw the ATF in Vegas. I was her only customer and she was "my girl" for the night which is the way I've always liked it.
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    Thank you, fishnet, for the rundown. I am probably behind on the fishnet chronicles. I should have done my homework.
    She sounds like a major hottie. Are there pics of her I can see?

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    I'll do what I did for Amber. I'll post some pics to a link and send you the link via PM. It may not be till tomorrow though.
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    There's somebody I would like to give my number to and become friends with outside of the club cause I think he's wicked nice, but I've read how that can really mess up an in the club relationship, so I don't know what to do... any suggestions?

    Luv,
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    Oh no doubt. You don't have to think twice. Just give me the number and I'll give you a call.

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    I give 'em a few chances. I'm the opposite of Fish though...I'm much more lenient with a girlfriend than I am with a dancer. I just feel that I'm paying for her to treat me well, damnit! So she better be nice to me.

    However since I don't have the money to be a "high-roller," and I don't go that often, I go through potential favs and semi-favs quickly and haven't ever had a true ATF.

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