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    I've heard it said on this bulletin board that strip clubs are where people can enjoy some kind of fantasy and I don't subscribe to this idea one bit. The way I approach going to strip clubs is that I am there to hang out with hot naked chicks and have themselves rub themselves all over me and pay them to do this, a business transaction. I just want the dancers to act sexy for me, pay attention to me, and the last thing I want them to do is feed me a bunch of b.s. or hustle me in any way.
    The strip club is a perfectly natural meeting place where supply (strippers supply the pussy) meets demand (customers demand the pussy). When a dancer is doing her dance for me or some other sordid act, I am not fantasizing about being with her, I am with her and am enjoying the sensations she is bestowing on me at that moment. It does not matter one bit whether this dancer would actually be rubbing herself against me if I wasn't paying her, the fact is I am paying her so it is happening.
    When having a conversation with a dancer, the last thing I want to do is bore her by talking about something she could care less about, and will usually follow her lead and find out what she likes to talk about. For that reason, I have become an expert on things like the various drugs that are available, shitty things that asshole boyfriends do to their stripper girlfriends, which dancers are the biggest sluts in the club (they never seem to mention themselves), the latest dance/techno/electronica/D & B music, and I also get to know what is happening on Survivor, American Idol, and all of the inane reality-based t.v. shows without having to watch a single episode.
    Anyway, I don't make any presumptions that they are going to fall in love with me or even give a rat's ass about me for that matter. I just want to have a good time and enjoy myself and would prefer it that the stripper have as good a time as possible even though she is indeed working. And the last thing I want them to do is to try to make me feel sorry for them and involve me in a bunch of sordid white-trash-trailer-park-ho bullshit that I had no idea that beautiful, personable women (who would have a lot of opportunities out there if they would just seek them out and believe in themselves) would involve themselves in. I've learned my lesson there.
    So, in closing, I would advise everybody to leave the fantasy for at home when you are jerking off about these dancers later or having sex with your significant others, which is just extra value for your strip club dollar as far as I am concerned, not the meat-and-potatoes of the completely natural, 100% real, market-driven strip club transactions.
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    ML, I actually like finding out what cutomers do for a living and what their interests are, I have found that if you actually attempt to listen to customers, you can learn and be exposed to different perspectives, occupations, and lifestyles that I wouldn't encounter in my own little bubble of a world. Some guys go for fantasy, some keep reality in check, customers should do whatever they need to when going to clubs to get the most enjoyment out of it.
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    ............ and I also get to know what is happening on Survivor, American Idol, and all of the inane reality-based t.v. shows without having to watch a single episode......................
    If they ever understood their demographics these shows would be flooded with ads frm Victorias Secret, Fredericks of Hollywood and every Dance Attire and TBack maker in the business.

    I know EXACTLY what you mean here.

    What was useful though was replaying some of my new found TV knowledge to another lady in another club who though it made us "click" in some way and led to her accepting an "offer" I made her.

    Ya gotta admit though it's better than being at home listening to the wife drone on about Days of Our Lives!
    I have a difficult time meeting ladies!

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    Well put ML, you have always been a sensitive bastard LMAO
    I to am there to be with, see, smell and touch "naked women". But part of enjoying the dance experience for me is the "fantasy" that they care about me, albeit just for the moment. I have no illusions that they are or ever will be falling in love with me. Just to have a lady grind on me is not what I'm there for. But hey, that's just me.
    Everyone has their own approach and opinion of what's enjoyable and what they want out of their SC experience. That's what makes SC visits so unique, there is something there for everyone!
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    Guys, it is all in your interpretation! One guys "fantasy" can be another guys "business transaction".

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    Great topic, I'm a "Fantasy" guy too. I can go be with a nekkid pretty women, talk,joke,laugh,dance with someone half my age who on the street would'nt give me the time of day. But for an hour or two she's there to please me! Then I can go home and unstop the toilet or bitch at the kids for leaving the lites on all nite.
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    Default Re: Absolutely 100% no fantasy involved...

    I've heard it said on this bulletin board that strip clubs are where people can enjoy some kind of fantasy and I don't subscribe to this idea one bit. The way I approach going to strip clubs is that I am there to hang out with hot naked chicks and have themselves rub themselves all over me and pay them to do this, a business transaction. I just want the dancers to act sexy for me, pay attention to me, and the last thing I want them to do is feed me a bunch of b.s. or hustle me in any way.
    I know you have a reputation over there, but this would be good material for the Customer Conversation forum on the pink site.

    I suppose the "fantasy" for me would involve the fact that I could, in little likelihood, could get a decently attractive (and sober) woman to rub herself all over me and act sexy for free unless I...

    - won the lottery,
    - sold 8 million copies of my gansta rap CD,
    - was all All-Pro wide receiver for the Buccaneers.

    ...and even then it wouldn't exactly be free would it? (Ask Kobe Bryant, Michael Irvin, or that Powerball winner in West Virginia who got drugged and mugged).

    But yes, I see your point. I'd rather the dancers just keep the conversation real and not treat me like the innocent looking pizza delivery boy in a porn movie.
    Former SCJ now in rehab.

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    Default Re: Absolutely 100% no fantasy involved...

    I've heard it said on this bulletin board that strip clubs are where people can enjoy some kind of fantasy and I don't subscribe to this idea one bit. The way I approach going to strip clubs is that I am there to hang out with hot naked chicks and have themselves rub themselves all over me and pay them to do this, a business transaction. I just want the dancers to act sexy for me, pay attention to me, and the last thing I want them to do is feed me a bunch of b.s. or hustle me in any way.
    I'm with ML.


    Great topic, I'm a "Fantasy" guy too. I can go be with a nekkid pretty women, talk,joke,laugh,dance with someone half my age who on the street would'nt give me the time of day. But for an hour or two she's there to please me!
    I'm also with electric_head. Except I would refer to this as a "reality" rather than a "fantasy." And I would say there is little difference between ML's statement and electric_head's statement.

    I think "fantasy" comes into to it when the customer starts to think of it as being more than it really is. "Fantasy" can be a very bad thing for a customer's heart and bank balance, and can make a dancer a lot of money.

    Dancers on the pink site have often talked of lying about their relationship statuses in order to keep the "fantasy" going. "Fantasy" in strip club talk is often just a euphemism for "false hope." Some dancers don't provide much of value in the clubs and need the "false hopes" of customers to make much of a living. Spending money on FALSE hope is, by definition, a bad idea.

    My advice to any customer is to spend money only on the REALITY of what you are getting from the dancer, and to not spend anything on some FANTASY of what you think might happen.






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    I don't watch reality TV, something to do with seeing people embarrass themselves, I can't stand it. I am however, addicted to Sex in the City and I'm sure I've bored some poor guys damn near to tears with that one.

    ML, the whole point of visiting a SC is to be entertained, and you can't tell us that hearing all the white-trash trailer-park rantings (loser BFs, club sluts, newest drugs, which bitch is gonna get her ass kicked if she says one more thing tonight...) isn't entertainment.

    I've been to male SCs twice and I'll tell ya, watching all the drama unfold around those coked-out pretty-boys is, similar to yet, way more entertaining than watching the freak shows at the circus!

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    ML...you are a hard ass sumbitch LOL You make some good points though and you definitely are not gonna get your heart broken by a dancer

    Im 180 degrees from you though. I LOVE the fantasy Hell, I even enjoy the drama (purely from a conversational point of view). Right now Im juggling 6 favs its amazing how that instills the competitive spirit in the ladies. God bless America and the free enterprise system LOL

    I was in a serious ATF relationship in the past and did in fact get messed up pretty bad. Ive moved on and bear no malice towards strippers. The onus is on me to control the situation and thats exactly what Im doing.

    Will it last forever? Unknown. Im a softie for the ladies I realize I could go ga-ga tomorrow over some hottie. Kinda like the alcoholic who measures his sobriety (and sanity) one day at a time. Right now my plan is to play the game better than they do and reap maximum benefits in the process.

    Time will tell



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    I think "fantasy" comes into to it when the customer starts to think of it as being more than it really is. "Fantasy" can be a very bad thing for a customer's heart and bank balance, and can make a dancer a lot of money.

    Dancers on the pink site have often talked of lying about their relationship statuses in order to keep the "fantasy" going. "Fantasy" in strip club talk is often just a euphemism for "false hope." Some dancers don't provide much of value in the clubs and need the "false hopes" of customers to make much of a living. Spending money on FALSE hope is, by definition, a bad idea.

    My advice to any customer is to spend money only on the REALITY of what you are getting from the dancer, and to not spend anything on some FANTASY of what you think might happen.
    Lap,

    These are some insightful comments that state more clearly some of what I was getting at. I have no problem spending money on a dancer even though she is not actually interested in me at all outside of the club, and if she actually told me that, it would not stop me from continuing to buy dances, as I find it pretty hard to find a regular dancer that I click with.
    It is sometimes the case that dancers will do manipulative things and probably think they are keeping you coming back to the club by doing this, when in reality, you just really enjoy the dances and are attracted to her and the more lies she tells you to get you to think that you have a chance with her, the more it will just create tension, animosity, and confusion and it will terminate the mutual business relationship sooner than necessary on a bad note. It can also mess with your head if you let it.
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    I don't want any fantasy myself. I just want to go and see some beautiful naked woman and enjoy their company. That's all. I don't want someone to pretend that they have deep feelings for me, when they really don't. If we really click, that's great, but I just want to be going to a "strip club" not a "fantasy girlfriend club".

    But, as stated by earlier posters, different customers are looking for different things. Some guys are young, single, and don't have much money to spend. Some guys are old, with a wife and kids, and have more money to spend. Some guys just want to relax in a club and some guys want a fantasy girlfriend. I think it's hard for them to relate to each other in regards to why they're there.

    Apparently, some people believe it's the dancer's job to lie to customers, lead them on, and manipulate them. Some customers don't know that this is what happens in strip clubs. And it's not a good ending. But, people just say that he should have know better and dancers just say she was providing a fantasy. I don't think it should be this way.

    Just my worthless opinion.
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    Does it really matter why you go??? As long as you have fun and feel the money was well spent, it's all good!!!
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    I also get to know what is happening on Survivor, American Idol, and all of the inane reality-based t.v. shows without having to watch a single episode.

    well,not all of them are inane. the only exception,IMO,is the tv show "Cheaters". sure,it's a guilty pleasure, but where else can you see the judgmental and self-aggrandizing host of a tv show get shanked by some young sociopath in training? karmic justice,anyone? where else can you watch video men and women who install hidden cameras in their homes in order to catch their cheating SO? i especially like the episodes when some young guy find out that his SO is cheating with another woman. instead of using this knowledge to their advantage. they rather hastily break up with the girl in a fit of anger over "issues of trust". oh well,what is it with these young guys these days?
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    Right now my plan is to play the game better than they do and reap maximum benefits in the process.
    Daymn FBR! If you succeed, we'll have to change your name to Super PL, I mean stud or some such. LOL! I wish you luck... at six against one the odds are stacked against you. I'm raising my glass to salute your effort though.
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    I've heard it said on this bulletin board that strip clubs are where people can enjoy some kind of fantasy and I don't subscribe to this idea one bit. The way I approach going to strip clubs is that I am there to hang out with hot naked chicks and have themselves rub themselves all over me and pay them to do this, a business transaction. I just want the dancers to act sexy for me, pay attention to me.

    Hmm.... I still say it is fantasy entertainment because in the "real world", outside of a stripclub numerous hot women would not be getting naked and dancing for us or on us and be telling us how wonderful we are all the time . Outside of a stripclub or other sex work type business if you walked up and offered to pay a hot woman to get naked and rub all over you you'd most likely get cussed out, beaten up or arrested.

    That is reality.

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    Hmm.... I still say it is fantasy entertainment because in the "real world", outside of a stripclub numerous hot women would not be getting naked and dancing for us or on us and be telling us how wonderful we are all the time . Outside of a stripclub or other sex work type business if you walked up and offered to pay a hot woman to get naked and rub all over you you'd most likely get cussed out, beaten up or arrested.

    That is reality.
    I bet the same thing would happen if I walked up to a cute waitress outside work and asked her to go fetch me some dinner. That being said, I get a private dance for the reality of it, I get repeat dances from those that offer some fantasy as well.

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    Hmm.... I still say it is fantasy entertainment because in the "real world", outside of a stripclub numerous hot women would not be getting naked and dancing for us or on us and be telling us how wonderful we are all the time . Outside of a stripclub or other sex work type business if you walked up and offered to pay a hot woman to get naked and rub all over you you'd most likely get cussed out, beaten up or arrested.

    That is reality.
    How exactly is it that the strip club is not the real world. It is as real as it gets as far as I'm concerned. It is a business that exists in the same world as every other one. How is it not real to you? Anyway, I could care less if the dancer tells me how great I am, I would rather they didn't. I just want them to take their stupid clothes off and rub their titties in my face and stuff.
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    The problem is that not everybody has your same attitude that you are experiencing it for the moment. That you are not leaving your wife and children on the prospect you can establish a better life with your new found love. That this is this and that was that. That what you 've experienced now does not neccessarily lead to further involvement. That this is a one time transaction and not part of a continuing cycle.
    Yeah, I think you should experience things for the moment and not get carried away by the implications but that is easier said than done.

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    How exactly is it that the strip club is not the real world.
    Well- We just see it differently I guess- I say it is fantasy entertainment in the same sense that Virtual Reality is - as soon as you take off the glasses it is over - similarly to when you walk out of the club.

    It isn't part of the day to day "real world" until we have hot women on most every street spinning around lampposts
    and not being offended by strangers asking them to get naked or let us touch them- until then stripclubs will remain fantasyland to me.

    To each his own I suppose

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