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    I know that I don't normally post here, Just lurk, you know...Market research

    But I thought you guys would appreciate this little anecdote.

    A dancer I work with is being sued by a former customer, he wants his money back. This Customer had a habit of enjoying the company of the youngest dancers in the club and lost interest in them after they turned 21 usually. He would spend gobs of money on these girls and buy them expensive gifts (like a whole house worth of furniture, and cars etc.). One dancer friend of mine would call him up about the time her rent was due every month and he would drop off an envelope at the club with $1400 in it to pay her rent.

    Well the dancer he most recently enjoyed spending money on, is about to turn 22 next month. He bought her clothes, furniture, a car, paid her college tuition one semester, and contributed to her breast augmentation, as well as bringing her cash for her personal expenses etc. For some reason he felt the need to take this "relationship" to the next level with her. When she tried to politely reject him, he didn't like it at all. He seemed to think that she was special, and that they had some kind of special relationship beyond him showering her with gifts and money. Also keep in mind that this man is nearly 70 years old, so this seemed like an ordinary sugar daddy relationship.

    Long story longer, she cut him off and refused to do dances for him anymore, and when he wouldn't back off, she had him banned from the club while she was working. Now he is pissed and is suing her for the total amount of the gifts that he gave her while she was working. She returned the car to him since it was in his name anyway, but he wants the money and the amount of the other gifts back. He is suing her for $10 grand.

    She has a lawyer who thinks this is the easiest (an also very entertaining) case he has ever seen. I just wanted to see what you guys thought about all this nonsense


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    hmmmmm...... Sounds like an old fool......

    but if he wins I want the number of his lawyer!
    I have a difficult time meeting ladies!

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    Whispers,

    Could the fool be one of our newbie friends from aspd?
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    I don't think he has a leg to stand on. LOL. Law may have little to do with it. Often the best attorney wins regardless. Kind of reminds me of the wife who was suing a girl on the pink site because the the husband spent like 30k in 3 months. What happened on that one??
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    He seemed to think that she was special, and that they had some kind of special relationship beyond him showering her with gifts and money. Also keep in mind that this man is nearly 70 years old, so this seemed like an ordinary sugar daddy relationship.
    I agree with the others, the guy knew what he was doing and doesn't have a leg to stand on, what's the old saying "a fool and his money are soon parted".

    Question for the dancers though, do you ever think twice about accepting gifts and money, can you see why someone might think that your acceptance of those gifts and money could lead someone to think that there is some kind of special relationship other than the "ordinary sugar daddy relationship"?

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    Paris - is there anyway to keep us updated? Stupid lawsuits like this have a nasty habit of ending with the wrong party coming out on top. I'd like it know the end result. We don't often hear when the good guys win in such suits (yay Al Franken!).

    Conventional wisdom says that a Judge would toss this out as being stupid and frivolous. However, conventional wisdom is out the door when a slick lawyer being paid lots of money is involved.


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    I have one guy that has offered to pay me $1000 and pay for anything I want for a day of shopping... I am very tempted, but I am going to decline his offer. I don't like owing people, and I would feel like he would expect to be repaid in some manner (although he says that is not the case) If someone came in with a gift for a specific reason (my birthday, Christmas, ect.) as long as it was something that took place within the club, I would accept.

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    Ahh Amber, you just proved you have a good head on your shoulders. You are looking at the long term situation, rather than the immediate gratification of receiving the gift. Kudos to you, kiddo.

    It’s probably safe to say that anyone offering a dancer, who they only know inside the club, that sort of reward/gift has ulterior motives in mind. All they need is for you to accept such a substantial gift to make them think you are beholden to them. You are saving yourself a lot of headaches and potential serious danger by sticking to only what you earn through your honest club work.

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    I believe it's a frivolous action. I personally don't think a dancer-client deal is one where she owes HERSELF to him as if it were marriage . Any implicit contractual obligation involved (for "professional" services ) would exclude real, personal relationships. Having that car did not turn the deal into a personal one; just one perk the dancer enjoyed. That guy was sufficiently stupid enough to spend all of that money and give her all of those things



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    Hi guys, yes I will keep you posted. She is pretty sure that this will never go to court because A. he doesn't have a leg to stand on, and B. he is a prominent business man in a smallish city, and it wouldn't look good to go public with his preference of this kind of entertainment.

    And for the record, no I don't accept large gifts from customers. If they want to pick up the tab on the dinner we had together, I will let them, but that is about it. Otherwise they tip me in the club.


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    I think she has everything in hand. I wouldn't worry about a lawsuit. If there was nothing written down or witnesses to testimony he's got nothing on her.
    The one thing people should realize- a gift is a gift. You don't give one if you expect something in return. You must fully be content to depart with that item with no strings attached.

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    The one thing people should realize- a gift is a gift. You don't give one if you expect something in return. You must fully be content to depart with that item with no strings attached.
    In an ideal world you are correct, but we're talking real world here, generally if I give a gift to a beautiful girl there is motive behind it, she should realize this, if she's not comfortable with those expectations she shouldn't be accepting those gifts.

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    a truly amazing story. i decide who's the bigger fool. the dancer or the customer. some of my first thoughts upon reading the story:

    For some reason he felt the need to take this "relationship" to the next level with her.
    gee, i wonder if this is the reason?

    He bought her clothes, furniture, a car, paid her college tuition one semester, and contributed to her breast augmentation, as well as bringing her cash for her personal expenses etc.
    geez, i didn't know boob jobs and cars were included in the price of a lap dance these days. talk about inflation.

    For some reason he felt the need to take this "relationship" to the next level with her.
    i don't know about you, but this gets my vote for understatement of the year.

    Also keep in mind that this man is nearly 70 years old, so this seemed like an ordinary sugar daddy relationship
    there's nothing ordinary about this story. it sounds like an old man going through the early stages of senility and hopped on the mighty blue pill of power. that or he has the largest case of buyer's remorse i've ever seen.

    When she tried to politely reject him, he didn't like it at all.
    i wonder if she practiced her look of suprise in the mirror. she probably even shed a few crocodile tears to make it look real. she probably even stated in an indignant tone that,"she's not that type of girl".

    She returned the car to him since it was in his name anyway, but he wants the money and the amount of the other gifts back.
    the smartest move he's made so far. maybe he's in a period of lucidity for the moment.

    they both deserve each other. both parties should have known better. he lost some money and she's going to lose some to her lawyer (billable hours are a bitch). well,i guess the moral of the story is to never blindly give a dancer large amounts of money and gifts before services are rendered.


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    In an ideal world you are correct, but we're talking real world here, generally if I give a gift to a beautiful girl there is motive behind it, she should realize this, if she's not comfortable with those expectations she shouldn't be accepting those gifts.
    In the real world, you would have no legal recourse at all. In an ideal world, if she's not comfortable with those expectations she shouldn't be accepting those gifts.

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    I have one guy that has offered to pay me $1000 and pay for anything I want for a day of shopping... I am very tempted, but I am going to decline his offer. I don't like owing people, and I would feel like he would expect to be repaid in some manner (although he says that is not the case) If someone came in with a gift for a specific reason (my birthday, Christmas, ect.) as long as it was something that took place within the club, I would accept.

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    Amber isn't the only one. I accept gifts that aren't that high in monetary value.... like the wool rug I currently use at Players (to place on the floor.. for 'floor work' during a lap dance). If it comes to something like was offered to Amber (I've had similiar offers as well)... no thank you.

    I had a regular who was going to spend big on me however he ended up not coming into the club anymore because he knew that he wouldn't be able to get anything more than lap dances out of me... as that what his ultimate goal was.. to not just have lap dances in the club.. for me "visit" him outside the club.

    Unfortunately, whilst there might be a few that are genuine... I won't accept due to knowing that if they made the offer whilst I'm working that it usually means they will be aiming to get something more (which I won't offer) out of me.


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