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    I have done parties as well. Guys always ask for extras either for themselves or the groom. I think its pretty sad that they can't go out and get it themselves. They need to pay someone to touch them. As soon as the sexual favors start being requested then that was my cue to leave. I always did parties with another girl and we always took a bouncer so the guys would behave themselves. I don't do parties anymore. I have seen girls do extras though. Many times. Why get married if you still want to have sex with other people?
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    Why get married if you still want to have sex with other people?
    And yet, OMG, the escort business has been doing well for several (if not hundreds or thousands) of years, men still cheat on their wives, wives still cheat on their husbands and a large percentage of marriages end in divorce!! Like I said in my earlier post, I don't ever plan on getting married because I can't handle being with just one woman the rest of my life. Gimme more, I say, more! LOL!

    They need to pay someone to touch them.
    Wow, and you're a dancer, right? Guys pay you to dance for them...to "touch" them? Maybe you're not doing the "extra" stuff, but guys are still paying you. I hope you don't look down on your customers the way you do guys who pay for sex. We already have enough girls around here (specifically on the pink site) who think that.

    My apologies to Chuck for this post...just thought those were some funny statements being made by a dancer.
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    Default Re: How far would you go at your bachelor party?

    I have done parties as well. Guys always ask for extras either for themselves or the groom. I think its pretty sad that they can't go out and get it themselves. They need to pay someone to touch them.
    I've said something along those lines before too because I am constantly being made offers to sleep with guys. It gets old quickly and when that many people are asking us to have sex with them, you tend to become a little sarcastic...
    I was constantly being asked to have sex with this kid by his best friend who was gonna fork over $1000 to get him laid. I refused numerous times and finally smiled and asked the guy if his friend knew he thought him to be so pathetic that he couldn't get himself laid, that he was trying to pay a stripper to get it on with him. Luv,
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    If I remember correctly, this story Amber's talking about was about a guy trying to pay her to de-virginize his 24 year old friend. Her comment in that story stung when I read it, as did bikerdoll's comment above. I understand their perspective, after a while enough is enough and a snappy comment is the only way to end the pestering from these clueless guys. For me it just hits a little too close to home sometimes. While I've never paid for sex, the lap dances I buy and the attention I receive at a SC are more than I've been able to get in a long time from women in the "real world" (strictly a confidence issue, I'm pretty much a normal guy in every other regard) so yes, I have to "pay for it." I fear it's seen as quite pathetic by most, enough so that I may stop going to SCs someday while I tackle the confidence issue, but in the meantime, it still stings like hell when that fear is confirmed by the nice ladies on this board (or anywhere else for that matter).

    Oh and to keep it on topic, regarding the original question: As the groom at a bachelor party, I'd get some laps and allow myself to be subjected to a few of the hopefully not too embarrassing games, but I wouldn't do anything I wouldn't want her to do with a male dancer at a bachelorette party.
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    Everyone should realize a bachelor party is suppose to be a farewell to single life and all that goes with it. As far as getting the "extras" at the party one guy/gal cannot give the "answer". Personally I don't find having sex at a bachelor party too appealing, never did. Some guys think its mandetory others do not. I've been a best man twice and that wasn't going on at those but I've been to ones that were really wild. So I guess my answer to the question is not too far.

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    I think its pretty sad that they can't go out and get it themselves.
    Why get married if you still want to have sex with other people?
    what a youthfully naive statement. actually,he is getting it for himself, if he's paying for it. however to answer your question from a male perspective, perhaps he likes to have options.

    I fear it's seen as quite pathetic by most, enough so that I may stop going to SCs someday while I tackle the confidence issue, but in the meantime, it still stings like hell when that fear is confirmed by the nice ladies on this board (or anywhere else for that matter).
    you actually fear what the "nice ladies" might think of your lifestyle?



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    I should've phrased it as its sad to have to pay for sex (not touching.) To me its stupid to pay for it when he is going to be getting it from his wife forever! That is just my opinion though. I know its been giong on forever, I'm not stupid, I just gave my opinion from a dancer's point of view. You can take it or leave it.
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    Whoa is it getting warm in here or is it just me LOL All I know is there are a LOT! of married people that cheat and also pay for sex.
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    I should've phrased it as its sad to have to pay for sex (not touching.) To me its stupid to pay for it when he is going to be getting it from his wife forever!
    it's still youthfully naive statement. i'm sure it seems stupid from a person who believes in monogamy. people say "life is too short". i disagree,life is long (thanks to advances in modern medicine and nutrition) compared to the age when people got married at 16 and the wife pumped out children until she died at 25 or so. today, a man who marries at the age of 25 could possibly be married to the same woman for 50 years. why restrict himself sexually to the same woman for 50 years if he has other options?
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    Mr. P has made some cogent comments which are basically a new topic altogether. I have long said that the divorce rate is so high because in the old days when people got married at 14 and died by 25-30, "till death do you part" was easy. Live with and love the same woman for 10 years? No problem! Now you are expected to live 5 lifetimes with them. Impossible! LOL. 2 lifetimes was enough for me. Shieeeeet!!! They oulawed slavery in the late 1800s. LMAO.

    BD, I have no problems with your comments.
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    Thanks sweetie! Too many people just take marriage for granted anymore. Its just not a sacred commitment like it should be. I can understand if you want to play the field forever. That is fine as long as you don't get married and do it! Hmmmm....this is weird...I am an old fashioned stripper! LOL! I don't know why people had such problems with my comments. All I can say is "oh well!!" [wave]
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    Thanks sweetie! Too many people just take marriage for granted anymore. Its just not a sacred commitment like it should be. I can understand if you want to play the field forever. That is fine as long as you don't get married and do it! Hmmmm....this is weird...I am an old fashioned stripper! LOL! I don't know why people had such problems with my comments. All I can say is "oh well!!" [wave]
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    Too many people just take marriage for granted anymore. Its just not a sacred commitment like it should be.
    actually,the idea of marriage as some sort of sacred commitment between two people who marry only for "love" is a completely western concept. even today, the idea of a "love" marriage is a recent development for the rest of the world. it is also a recent development when compared to the reasons why people married in the past. usually marriage was nothing more than a method to build and forge legal,economic and social alliances between families. for example, Sally,the wheat farmer's daughter marries Paul the miller's son.

    And if you cheated on your spouse, that would make for a long, nasty married life.
    not necessarily. it used to be that Paul would stop off at the local brothel or have a mistress on the side. i'm not saying his wife was thrilled by the idea, but there was a time when men were more discreet and women were more or less willing (probably for social and economic reasons) to put up with his behavior. today, that won't happen unless you meet a woman with certain delightful european values with respect towards marriage. although, your chances of meeting such a woman is about 1 in a bazillion.


    Divorce is very easy now, and society is a lot more sexually charged. There's not really the consequences for indiscretion, and indiscretion is a lot easier anyway.
    i agree that cheating is easier. however,not getting caught is probably just as difficult or harder than it was in the past. today, paper trails and communications tools can be your worst enemy.
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    Hmm, I dunno if this thread's about bachelor parties or monogamous relationships or extras, oh well here goes: One cannot take for granted that a stripper will also do extras, as if stripping and hooking were the same thing. Therefore a guy should know exactly where to go if he wants more than just a dance. So I'm with bikerdoll and Amber on this one. You better know where to look for dances and something else!



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    Ok I am late jumping in this thread.....
    As for relationships......
    My husband and I have been swinging for 12 years, for us thats who we are, and that won't change......
    but, we are always together, as weird as it may sound, if one of us did anything without thee other one, to us that would be cheating.....
    Yes guys ask us for sex all the time, we are half and or full naked, being seductive and sexy..... When they presisit it does get annoying but hey its our job to give them a hard on !!!!!!!!
    Yes I feel if they are looking to get laid a strip club is not place to go, yellow pages can do that for ya ........
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    you actually fear what the "nice ladies" might think of your lifestyle?
    LOL...I meant that more poetically than literally, and in the broader sense of any sort of stigma associated with it and its consequences.
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    I think what our culture seems to forget that the destructive component in an adulterous affair is DECEIT, not sex.

    As mr. punk brought up, back in the olden days when brothels were in operation just about everywhere, wives didn't get terribly upset about the hubby going out and getting "serviced" every so often provided that they knew about it. I still say that divorce rates and STD transmission rates would both plummet if we had legalized and regulated brothels and no cultural scorn against partaking of them, but try getting that by the marriage zealots in this country. Arrgh!

    Its also never mentioned that sometimes extramarital affairs can actually HELP the relationship. Sometimes one needs to travel to the other side of the hill to realize the grass was a lot greener at home, if you know what I mean. Yes, there is a lot of emotional wreckage when the dirty secret gets exposed, but couples who truly love one another will pull through that kind of stuff.

    If partners in a relationship (married, commited, straight, gay, etc.) would realize that their SO is capable of screwing up (and more than half do) and would prepare themselves to deal with that instead of acting as every moment of their partners time belongs to them, they'd be better off. I'm in no way trying to excuse adultery, just trying to explain that we have a cultural situation in the western world that makes it next to inevitable.

    I think one reason that I've held out so long is because I don't want to pair myself to someone whos going to use our marriage contract as a weapon, then deny me sex, so I'll be driven to cheat where she can develop a paper trail to use against me in divorce court, and take our house and 40-60% of what I make until she finds an even bigger sucker. I love women, but yes, there are a few out there who sadly are that predatory.
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    I say this as a sexually faithful person:

    Because human beings are not naturally monogamous.
    Human beings are not naturally anything. Human beings behave according to the values they prioritize.
    Take Japan for example. Education is highly prized in that country. As a result ,they have the worlds lowest illiteracy rate among other things. Despite the lack of natural resources they are a leader with an educated work force.
    Biker, the patrons of s.c.'s and other venues for extramarital sex is simply the sorry state of this country's marital status. It's what happens when there is not a high priority on fidelity in marital unions.
    If you find someone with the same priorities as you have ,then you will not fall victim to this.

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