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    Default Do you like good girls?

    I like them a lot. A friend and I put together a list of 101 tips for good girls. You can read it at



    I know Amber does a lot of this stuff intuitively. Some of you probably know other tips. Feel free to share them here, and tell me which ones on the list are lame.

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    Default Re: Do you like good girls?

    Yes, I do like good girls, and that's an impressive list.

    There was this one:

    "Always ask for a drink, never order one and assume he'll pay. Guys with money are very sensitive to being taken advantage of."

    Well, I do pretty much only go to nude JUICE bars, so maybe that influences my point of view, but I thinks it's best if a dancer never asks a customer to buy her a drink (let alone ordering and assuming he'll pay). Let the waitresses do all the drink pushing.

    Here is one I would add:

    "If a customer buys $30 worth of dances and pays with two $20 bills, ask him if he wants change. That's classy. (This doesn't apply if he has established a routine of tipping you at that level)"

    Also:

    "Never ask for a tip for private dances."

    Also:

    "If a customer tips you extraordinarily well for private dances, acknowledge that in some way. If he's a regular doing it regularly, you don't have to react to it all the time. But make it a point to at least occasionally let it be known that you don't take the tips for granted."






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    Default Re: Do you like good girls?

    I never ask for anybody to buy me a drink unless they offer. (Is it okay to turn down an offer or should I always get something if it is offered?)
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    Amber - never feel obligated to take a drink if you don't want it. Some guys buy dancers a drink because they are genuinely nice. Some guys buy drinks as an "in" with a dancer i.e. "I gave you something, now you give me something" (and of course that "something" can vary). Its the same as having a drink bought for you at a bar. Some guys might do it as a nice way of introduction, some guys do it so you feel obligated to talk to them, after which you can’t get rid of them because they think "Hey I bought you a drink, you should be grateful and beholden to me". I’ve seen this sort of thing so many times in my years of bartending that I’ve lost count.

    If you don't want a drink, please feel free to politely decline it. You could be protecting yourself and not even know it.

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    Default Re: Do you like good girls?

    I wouldn't have a problem with a dancer turning down a drink offer. I think club management tends to frown on this, though!

    I always ask if they want change and then when they say no, give them a great big smile, a hug, and a thank-you!
    What else would be good ways of showing my appreciatio?

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    That's a good way of showing your appreciation!

    If you have a regular who always tips you extraordinarily well, I don't think it would be a bad idea to acknowledge it verbally once in a while. Such as:

    "I really appreciate the way you tip me."

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    also, if you turn down a drink you'll be saving the guy money. he will (unless he is retarded...and even then) realize this and be appreciative that you aren't just milking him of everything he has. which in turn, may lead to him spending more of his cash on you(instead of on booze for you), which is better off for you in the longrun. turning down a drink offer shows you're not greedy and could lead to a regular customer. if someone is a repeat good tipper, the smile/hug/kiss thing is cool. but also some mention of realizing he tips you well now and in the past. something like, "thank you. you always treat me so well. or you're always so generous."

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    Default Re: Do you like good girls?

    Amber, the only reason I would even think of buying a dancer a drink, would be the hopes that she gets liquored up enough for me to enjoy her later on!

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    Amber - never feel obligated to take a drink if you don't want it. Some guys buy dancers a drink because they are genuinely nice. Some guys buy drinks as an "in" with a dancer i.e. "I gave you something, now you give me something" (and of course that "something" can vary). Its the same as having a drink bought for you at a bar. Some guys might do it as a nice way of introduction, some guys do it so you feel obligated to talk to them, after which you can’t get rid of them because they think "Hey I bought you a drink, you should be grateful and beholden to me". I’ve seen this sort of thing so many times in my years of bartending that I’ve lost count.

    If you don't want a drink, please feel free to politely decline it. You could be protecting yourself and not even know it.
    Very good advice . I have heard some rough stories about people having things "slipped" into their drink. If someone is persistent about getting you to drink, alarm bells should sound in your head.

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    Also, if you do have a drink, if you do not finish it while you are sitting there, do NOT go back later to finish it. I know of a dancer that was drugged as Christopher said.

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    A very impressive list indeed SW2. I'd give my unwavering agreement to at least 90% of the stuff there. A gal that follows those kind of tips is a lot more likely to work her way deeper into my wallet than ones who carry on at the club like they couldn't give a shit.

    You ought to post that link over in the Customer Conversation forum on the pink site and see what input the ladies give you.
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    Default Re: Do you like good girls?

    also, if you turn down a drink you'll be saving the guy money. he will (unless he is retarded...and even then) realize this and be appreciative that you aren't just milking him of everything he has. which in turn, may lead to him spending more of his cash on you(instead of on booze for you), which is better off for you in the longrun. turning down a drink offer shows you're not greedy and could lead to a regular customer.
    Yes, I agree with this. Turning down a drink offer could actually be endearing.

    if someone is a repeat good tipper, the smile/hug/kiss thing is cool. but also some mention of realizing he tips you well now and in the past. something like, "thank you. you always treat me so well. or you're always so generous."
    Yes. "You spoil me" would be another good thing to say.


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    very good stuff you have here. so i'll just bring up a few points...

    in the opening you mentioned this... "and the customer can only touch the dancer below the hips."

    huh? seeing as the crotch is below the hips, and that's usually the biggest no-no zone, maybe you want to rephrase that?

    btw... very good advice about having a plan, saving money, etc.

    Forget the two-tone lips: It's too hard/exotic for most guys, and it makes you look like all the other dancers.

    you mean the dark lip-liner right? damn, but that looks so harsh and weird! thanks for bringing that one up.

    Don't chew gum: It makes you look like a cheap bimbo.

    right on! especially bubbles and "cracking"... bad, bad, very very bad.

    Never use F*ck/Sh*t words in public: If he wants you to say them privately, your public restraint makes it more fun.

    another biggie that a lot of dancers don't give a thought about (and they should).

    Always try to sit to his right: Guys are used to having women on their right side; it's where the girl is when the guy is driving his car.

    this one's another really good point i never really think about... i just tend to do that anyway either because i'm right-handed or it's just more comfortable for me (i never thought about the car reference before, but it makes sense).

    Tell him your club name and ask his name: Then use his name in conversation to be personal and reinforce your memory.

    by "club name" i assume you mean her stage name? i would think a guy would know the name of the club he was in. in any case, yes, people like to hear you use their name.

    Do not ask him about work; he's there to get away from work.

    this is kind of a double-edged sword... true he's there to get away from work, but guys with money (especially a lot of money) like the chance to brag about their job (even if it's just the job title).

    Ask him to tell you whatever he wants about himself: Don't ask for more or try to lead the conversation.

    now, this is a problem since we have to lead the conversation at some point to ask for the dance... maybe it would be better to say that you shouldn't monopolize the conversation or come off as though you are leading it... subtle leading only.

    Kiss him on the cheek if you've never seen him before.

    a lot of guys (and dancers) aren't comfortable with a lot of kissing or being smooched by someone they've just met... if i was to kiss every guy i hadn't met before, my lips would chap (and frankly, most dancers aren't all that comfortable putting their lips on so many people).

    Wear his jacket if it's cold: Now you're inside him.

    this could be a problem for a lot of guys in that they probably have things in the jacket pockets they wouldn't feel comfortable having in the dancer's control (or the jacket itself), and perfume or not, with hair gunk, make-up, deodorant and such, the odor of her will be left on the jacket... which a wife will probably detect.

    Emphasize that you're discreet: Tell him similar men trust you.

    unless this is done very subtley, a lot of guys would think it's a big fat fib... people tend to not trust those people that bring up the point of their own trustworthiness.

    Never talk badly about another dancer: it proves you're indiscreet.

    or another customer, manager, dj, etc.... in any case, not only does it prove that you're indiscreet, it shows general lack of manners.

    Take notes about him and consult them: Keep a small notepad in a very safe place.

    excellent point. making a point to remember details about someone's likes and dislikes is flattering.

    Kiss him near the corner of his lips if he's your regular customer

    good grief, so much smooching! this is pretty dangerous since most clubs have the no kissing (on the lips) rule, and kissing close to the lips can look mighty suspicious which is not a good thing if seen by the wrong people.

    Ask your Regulars which of your outfits they like and write this down in your notebook: This tells you which outfits flatter you the most & make you more money.

    not always... every guy has different preferences. although it is a good idea to keep track of what a regular likes to change into for him if you have it with you. most girls know what looks the most flattering on them and which outfits tend to make them the most money.

    Even your loyal regulars have days when they prefer someone else. He will feel guilty. Let him know it isn't a problem. Stop by to see him occasionally and kiss him on the cheek. Tell him the next time you're dancing: you're telling him you're not possessive, while also building loyalty in his mind.

    another excellent point.

    Talk about what you believe in, your values.

    this could tred dangerous ground if what you believe in or your values don't mesh with his... besides that, it's very personal (a dancer's beliefs and values isn't any business of the customers).

    Tell him you don't do drugs, but admit weed if you smoke it.

    on a lot of girls this will come off as an obvious lie. as long as you don't appear to be on anything, there's no reason to bring up drugs at all. although if you want to make a point for some reason that you don't do drugs, it's best to slip that in with some kind of anti-drug comment.

    If you're a single mom, tell him

    a lot of guys are turned off by a dancer with kids or they think she's saying that as a pity campaign. besides, whether or not she has kids is none of a customer's business.

    Tell him you're dependable and a favorite of the house mother

    dependability (like trust) is one of those things it's better to show then to tell. also, most guys would have no clue what a house mom is.

    Make sure you're comfortable with whatever you tell him about yourself

    in other words... if you make up a persona to keep your personal life personal (which most dancers do), make it believable and be comfortable enough with it that it's second nature.

    If the crowd isn't buying dances, don't work the room from one end to another asking for dances. Many guys like being asked if they want a dance, but he won't be flattered if he's the tenth person you've asked. Ask three or four guys in one part of the room, then sit for a few minutes & work another part of the room.

    another excellent point... learn the art of mingling (it's not the deli counter after all!).

    Ask clarifying questions: It shows you're interested.

    yup, yup... another real goodie. just nodding in agreement and making appreciative noises may look like you're interested but may also look like you're mentally begging him to shut up.

    Tell him you love his nose, eyes, whatever: Use the word love.

    ah yes... the power of the "love" word! excellent point.

    the DANCING section is a bit touchy since it depends on the club as to whether a lot of this can even be done... but good advice if it's allowed and in the dancer's comfort zone. the offering of a free dance isn't a possibility in a lot of clubs (maybe even most).

    Tell him he's handsome.

    oooo, that one is really dangerous. guys know whether or not they're attractive, and if they obviously aren't, he'll know it's a lie.

    Ask what size breasts he likes: With any kind of contact he likes yours best. One on one, most guys prefer 34B.

    according to recent studies, guys prefer a C - D cup size... the "34" has nothing at all to do with the size of the actual breast either. other then that, what's the point of asking since odds are you aren't his preference? it sounds too much like a dig for a compliment.

    Ask him what he likes about you: This is valuable feedback for yourself.

    yeah, it's valuable feedback but actually asking can really put him on the spot, and it also sounds like digging for compliments. if a guy likes something in particular about a woman, he'll mention it himself.

    Tell him (and yourself) it's okay if he isn't hard all the time

    er... we really don't care if he's hard or not (especially in those clubs with no grinding or mostly no grinding allowed). that's a touchy thing to mention to a guy since it would probably make him feel inadequate. i wouldn't say anything about that unless he seemed discouraged about a lack of rigidity.


    mostly very good stuff... i only brought up a few of the really good points that caught my attention in the beginning (and then i got tired of repeating myself... very good, excellent, good point, very good point, yada, yada, yada).

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    Alanna, that was AWESOME! Thanks.

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    I really liked your post Sportswriter. I think you should sendit to Founder on Tuscl.com to post under Rules of the Road. You made me laugh with the two toned lipstick, I hate that too! I also liked the point about other dancers interrupting. Guys hate that! And the suggestion about escorting him to the door was a good one. That is a nice way to leave things so he will come back. Good job!
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    Great list SW. If only more dancers followed it....

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    ... if he agrees not to munch ...lmao [clap]
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    [clap] [clap] [clap]

    Loved that list! Whilst some of the tips you had don't apply to me (personal preference, club rules, etc)... the greater majority did.

    Well done :-D


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    Like most others, I also liked your list. Well done
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    Just so you know, that list is a fauntain of great tips and info for new girls, like me! I feel a lot better about some of the ways to have a good conversation with a guy now!! BIG HUGS!!!

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    Depends on what they are good at

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanna
    Always try to sit to his right: Guys are used to having women on their right side; it's where the girl is when the guy is driving his car.

    this one's another really good point i never really think about... i just tend to do that anyway either because i'm right-handed or it's just more comfortable for me (i never thought about the car reference before, but it makes sense).

    Tell him he's handsome.

    oooo, that one is really dangerous. *guys know whether or not they're attractive, and if they obviously aren't, he'll know it's a lie.
    I'm actually going to disagree with the former. I would sit on the opposite side of whichever hand seems to be dominant (which will usually be the left side). This allows him to reach for his drink/wallet, smoke, or do anything else he needs his hand to do comfortably without that movement creating a 'barrier' between you two. It also means that if you decide to sit close to his side that he won't feel restricted in any way. (This last may/may not be an issue for the guy involved, but could be)

    I agree on the 'handsome' thing. Depending on how I look on a given night, if this set my BS meter off, it would go a ways to making me finished and klaar with her.

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    I agree with walking him out the door. You can make him feel like you want to spend every minute possible with him. Which can also make a guy think your clingy, but if he knows your not going to leave the club he should enjoy the no strings female companionship experience.

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