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    OK, I'll bite...one of Amber's posts inspired me to start this thread...but you can let me know if it's too boring... [yawn] [yawn]
    (well I guess if there are no replies then I'll know anyway...)

    Do you assume that dancers have liberal political views? It seems to me that one might think that since they are so liberal with their bodies and engage in behavior that seems "taboo" and against the "morals" that are spouted by the religious right that they might be personally more liberal than the average person. Is this assumption off base? Do any of you dancers consider yourselves "conservative"? Did you vote for Bush, for example (the president of course, not the choice in pubic hair style...! )?

    Any of you have stories about talking to dancers, assuming that they were liberal, and then finding out that they weren't? Or any of you find out that the naked dancer who is rubbing all over you is in actuality a strict Mormon or something who just does what she does in secret just to pay the bills, etc.?

    In short, any correlation between dancing and politics/religion? ???

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    Well, I voted for Ralph Nader. Given the liberal handling of post 9/11 affairs, I'm leaning towards Bush in the next election...so have fun trying to classify my political views !

    Yes, I guess I thought of dancers as being more liberal than conservative, but given how all over the place my views are from issue to issue, I wouldn't be surprised by the same in someone else, dancer or not.
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    Oh, yeah and BTW, I'm not saying that all dancers are liberal...and I know for a fact that a lot of strip club customers aren't. And I'm not looking to start any political debates with anyone. I'll make it clear off the bat that 1) I'm liberal and 2) I won't make any judgments on here about those who disagree with my political views. Just curious to see how many dancers are conservative...that's all...!

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    IPS> I voted for Bush... even had his bumper sticker! LOL I hold signs for republicans all the time!
    OMG, if all of us saw you with a bumpersticker or a sign saying "vote for Bush" we'd probably think you were talking about the pubic hair poll! LOL

    Oh yah, I forgot...didn't you vote for "shaved"? LOL

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    I really try to keep politics out of discussions with the girls. Plenty of other stuff to talk about. If I were to generalize I suppose I'd say the majority would disagree with my own views.. Although I might have a few things in common with Amber. LOL.
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    I'm sure politically conscious dancers have different views amongst themselves as well as with their clients. In terms of the stripping as such there's an obvious consensus as to whether this business is an acceptable one. So it comes as no surprise that Amber, for example, would say that she actually voted for Bush. She could have voted for Gore, for all I care. I'd only pay for dances and conversation about much more interesting topics.



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    carlos, don't get the wrong idea...I'm not saying that I CARE one way or the other what a dancer's political beliefs are esp. when she's dancing naked all over me. Nor do I bring up politics for the sake of bringing up politics or pay girls for political conversation or try to get any of them to agree with me. You're right...boring. However, sometimes it just comes up accidentally or something, and when she tells me that she's super conservative, I just find it surprising, that's all. But I'll still get dances from someone like Amber just the same...

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    Porcupine - it is a interesting question. It would seem incongruous that a dancer would have moderate to strong conservative leanings, but they are human like the rest of us, and run the gamut of political leanings. We all have ideologies we ascribe to, but few of us accept every bit of our ideologies without question. We accept the parts we like, and reject the parts we don't like (religious dogma is the same way). Liberal in regards to the public display of their bodies does not necessarily translate into liberal attitudes in other areas.

    Just so you know, I voted for Martin Van Buren in the last election. I thought he did a good job the first time around.

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    good ole marty.

    nobody has ever been in full agreement with me, and never will, until they're forced to by my storm troopers. lol, that being said, i dont care what point of view is liberal or conservative. its all a boatload of shit anyway. i would expect and find that often dancers(and PLs who chat online) are often slightly more inline with my views. to put them in these stupid terms, "politacally liberal" and "economically conservative". i guess. basically, politically liberal, i dont believe in laws(i go to extremes personally, most are just leaning towards my point of view without going all the way.). and econonically conservative, dont believe in government, therefore no taxation and and social programs.

    im not a libertarian because they beleive that they can effect change through non-violent means...which is impossible. if you realy want change, you need to revolt. with that said, lol, pro-lifers are "nuts"(thanks for the term amber), pro-choicers are wimps. pro-abortion is the way to go. ;-) i say slaughterem all!!! lol.

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    i like to push my beleifs on people, especialy the super religeous who do it to us everyday. just your local friendly anarchist(almost).

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    Porcupine - it is a interesting question. It would seem incongruous that a dancer would have moderate to strong conservative leanings, but they are human like the rest of us, and run the gamut of political leanings. We all have ideologies we ascribe to, but few of us accept every bit of our ideologies without question. We accept the parts we like, and reject the parts we don't like (religious dogma is the same way). Liberal in regards to the public display of their bodies does not necessarily translate into liberal attitudes in other areas.

    Just so you know, I voted for Martin Van Buren in the last election. I thought he did a good job the first time around.
    Good points PJ...well said. I think I'd have to agree with you for the most part.

    Martin Van Buren huh? Are you saying that dead presidents would do a better job than live ones?...hmmmm...interesting! The Zombie party! Reminds me of an old Oingo Boingo song (sorry for the obscure reference!) I can just see the campaign ad now...looks like something out of the Thriller video! LOL


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    I hate defining people's political beliefs by putting them in convienent little categories. That's really an inaccurate way to go about understanding people. I consider myself libertarian, but hell even I want to keep the schools funded and the roads fixed. Pidgeonholing sucks!!

    Truth be told, I'd suspect that most dancers are pretty apolitical people, but I wouldn't surprise if there wasn't some decent support for Republican ideals (at least at the national level) considering the tax issues that dancers have to deal with.
    PS> I voted for Bush... even had his bumper sticker! LOL I hold signs for republicans all the time!
    Hey girl, I'm just glad that you vote. I'm glad someone gives a hoot.

    That point taken, I can't imagine having the following conversation with a dancer:

    Dancer: Hi, would you like some lap dances?
    DC: Sure. Wow, you're cute.
    Dancer: So, whats your view on campaign finance reform?
    DC: Uh, I don't know. Wow, thats a cool gymnastic trick you just did in my lap. Are you double jointed? :o
    Dancer: Sure am. What's your view on campaign finance reform NOW?
    DC: Well, I'd finance your campaign!! Come to think of it, I guess that I am.
    Dancer: What until I use my legs to squeeze your head like a walnut in a nutcracker! I'll be leading you to the polls on a dog collar. Now lick my boots like a good boy.
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    In short, any correlation between dancing and politics/religion? ???
    I get the impression from most of the dancers I meet that they are apathetic when it comes to politics. As agravating as most politicians and their supporters make me, I wonder if that isn't the best policy.

    Anyway, believe it or not but there are issues in this world which cannot be defined in terms of liberal or conservative. Strip clubs are certainly one of them. It'd be better if most issues weren't defined in this manner, as I find people tend to place themselves in logic quagmires by defining themselves in a "I'm for everything they aren't for" situation.


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    Ok, so I've got a general consensus here that strippers shouldn't be stereotyped politically speaking and that politics should be left at the door when we go to clubs. Still, nobody answered the question I was really interested in: has anybody gotten a hot sexy dance from someone only to have her say how "buttoned up" and ultra conservative she is etc? I mean, I'm not necessarily saying that "dancer" and "conservative" are mutually exclusive categories, and I actually have had girls tell me that they had super strict parents, believe in "family values", and go to church every Sunday, but I was wondering if anybody had any good/funny stories about those encounters. In light of what certain conservatives might say, I find those situations humorous and ironic.

    (then again...I suppose there are some ultra-liberal feminists who would also look disapprovingly on the actions of the dancers...so maybe it evens out...??? )

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    I've never talked politics with a dancer, but I have run into a few Wiccans. A small fraction of all dancers, but probably more than in the general population.

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    Yes there are conservative dancers. Yes ,I'd assume most of the dancers are liberal just the same as journalists and artists. It is best for dancers to leave their politics at home however ,to avoid incidents of flair ups between them and their coworkers or customers. In fact it is not a good idea to bring up any controversial issue including religion for harmony's sake.
    But heck, I live in California so I have to deal with it all the time.

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    I only talk politics if a customer brings it up and then only briefly, because I usually find that my views don't jive with those of most customers, or with most people in general for that matter. I tend to take a very harsh line on how certain parties/factions/communities/whatever should be dealt with, and most people assume looks of shock or horror if I mention it. For example, I was against going to war with Iraq in the first place, but once it was started, I felt we should have gone over there and kicked some serious ass (to put it mildly) because if you're gonna do it you may as well do it right, and no sense pussy-footin' around! LOL! But seriously, I once took a political test, called something like the World's Smallest Political Quiz , and it says I am a Centrist.

    As to the political views of strippers in general, I'd say most don't really care much for any of it, simply because of all the bs we in our industry have to put up with, and because many of us may not think of what we do for a living as taboo - I know I don't!

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    Thanks B, that was fun. I scored as a centrist, but on the line towards "left liberal" and a little closer to libertarian than autoritarian.
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    Hey Bridgette, thanks for the quiz...

    I ended up scoring as a "left-liberal" They said that my score was:

    "Your Personal Self-Government Score is 80%.
    Your Economic Self-Government Score is 20%."

    Anyway..I'm willing to bet that a lot of customers lean more libertarian/conservative than I would. When I looked at one of the recent threads on the pink site about the Republican meeting it seemed that most of the dancers were fairly liberal...so I guess my suspicions weren't too far off. Thanks for the link!

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    Welcome guys - I liked that one too. I scored a Centrist, as I said, but in the corner leaning toward left-liberal and libertarian. 70% personal self-government and 50% economic self-government.

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    Kewel! I really am a libertarian! (although not by much).
    PS-G score 80%, ES-G score 60%.

    I like that little quiz. They at least acknowledge there is a "y-axis" in the ideology world and don't kowtow to this overblown left vs. right garbage we see too much of in the media. Thanks B!
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    Well I scored as a Right Conservative. But hey, I knew that already
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    I'm a Centrist, I guess great thinkers like lestat, bridgette, and myself all think a like, it also explains a lot about the rest of you (LOL, just kidding).

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    Holy shiet Batman! I always thought I was right conservative. I'm Libertarian. :o PSG 60%
    ESG- 80% I was leaning right though.
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    Libertarian.....PSG 100%, ESG 100%....but im not a libertarian, because i beleive in taking over through revolution. in order to join the libertarian party you have to swear an oath or some crap that you will not use violence as a means to gain the party's ends. i think its the only way. so im basically an anarchist.

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