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    I keep in touch with a kot of my customers through email, IM, texts, and the phone... just to make sure that we can make our schedules at the cllub gel... some will call and talk to me and then give me extra money for listening to thewir problems... I'll usually do this in my car on the way to and from work... I've fooound this to be a veeery good side business as it brings in extra money and doesn't take up any extra time of mine.

    Anybody else ever do this?

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    LMAO!! You learned a valuable lesson on who to give your IM to and who not to! I would just block him.

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    sounds like the cybersex you and porcupine were having last night

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    Just block that guy, Amber, before it gets worse. Don't answer anything from him to see if he tires and leaves you alone.



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    sounds like the cybersex you and porcupine were having last night
    Right, except for the fact that my cybersex is good...and everyone else was in the hot tub with Amber and I helping her rub off the bubbles.... LOL

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    Amber, I would let him know his is just doing this to much !!!!
    If you don't I think it will become more and more..... You are really doing something for this guy, ( yes that is your job) but I think he has lost the perspective of you being a entertainer to entertain him at the club.....
    He is taking up personal time of yours, (sometimes when you want someone too, Cool) but it doesn't sound like you want any more to deal with him out side of the job.......
    It's bugging you enough to say something here, then you need to say something to him......
    I am dealing with one right now too, rememeber the customer who tracked me down a few weeks ago, all the sudden he is reaching insanity !!!
    Hi father grew up right near my house, and we are doing alot of exterior work on ours, from talking about this, he figured out where my house is, and "popped by" to see how the work is going TWICE !!!!
    (once this morning after I went back to bed) He'll be in the club tommorw to see me, and will be told, never again will you do that......
    So I may lose him as a customer, but hey, when ya cross then line that makes someone feel uncomfortable, that's just the way it goes !!!!
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    See mike we're calling you! not for SC legal laws that nobody cares about but for harassment laws, this would be of use and people are actually requesting it.
    If she tells him to stop contacting her and he does not- well then you have a harrassment issue- as I am sure everyone knows.

    Stalkers can be difficult to almost impossible to deal with unfortunatly and I suggest that Amber discuss this issue with the ladies on SW for the best advice on this matter. And maybe consider not having contact with customers outside of the club to help avoid any further issue or problems.
    Ofcourse it isn't her fault by any means but out of the club contact could be misunderstood and viewed as interest or be seen as encouragement by an "off" customer. I imagine that "off' customers are not always so easy to spot so I'd take the better safe than sorry approach in the future and not give out or accept personal info such as email/phone#'s and so on..... and keep all interaction in the club.

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    Another thing- I don't think it is very safe for dancers to have their email addy's available on sites such as these either. I don't think the ladies can be too careful in matters such as these-it is unfortunate but par for the course. Dancers are like mini celebs in a way and imho should protect themselves as best they can.

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    Oh God, here we go again....What did I tell you coolshot?

    I'll give credit where credit is due...you've been on good behavior recently, Mike. Sorry I just couldn't resist the joke about porcupines and cybersex. Try to lighten up a bit.

    On a more serious note, to change the subject back to the original question...Amber, I think that the advice you got here is right on. Ignore the jerk and he should hopefully leave you alone. This may be extreme but you also might consider changing your aol handle and just giving it out to your real friends etc. Maybe you should keep the email address separate from the IM handle, or keep your email/im more private (i.e. not listing it on these public websites). That'll prevent the weirdos from bugging you with unsolicited cybersex requests. Then you can give the email and IM handle out more selectively. If the guy gives you any more trouble I think you can alert your ISP.



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    Oh God, here we go again....What did I tell you coolshot?

    I'll give credit where credit is due...you've been on good behavior recently. Sorry I just couldn't resist the joke about porcupines and cybersex. Try to lighten up a bit.

    On a more serious note, to change the subject back to the original question...Amber, I think that the advice you got here is right on. Ignore the jerk and he should hopefully leave you alone. This may be extreme but you also might consider changing your aol handle and just giving it out to your real friends etc.
    Changing the email addy is a good idea, one thing though about telling the guy to leave her alone, it should be done IN THE CLUB- any responce to the behavior she wants him to stop could be seen oddly enough as encouragement if the guy has obcessive stalker issues with her, lets hope thats not the case but one never knows....... also like I mentioned before I wouldn't give out or accept email/phone info to ANY customer in the future. I doubt she thought this guy was going to go weird on her or she wouldn't have exchanged email info in the first place. And yes if he does continue to bother her she should contact her ISP and she should be keeping records of all unwanted contact incase she needs to get help from law enforcement.

    A sidel note here on sharing phone/ email info in the club.... I am not sure about R.I but in my area it is illegal to exchange such info with a customer in an adult entertaiment establishment. Seems silly I know, but its yet another one of those laws that many people are unaware of.... and yes I do personaly know of a dancer who was unfortunatly arrested for giving her # out to an undercover. She learned the hard way about being on the up and up as far as laws go.


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    well, on the k2u site they have dancers emails listed, so clearly thats not realy the case in RI or atleast at this club. i thought mike made some good points. if you publish your email and other personal info you never know what psychos(such as the one typing now :-P ) are gonna get it. and what they'll do with it. with regards to "never give it out to a customer" thats going a little extreme...but showing some caution and only giving it out after some trust is biult wouldn't be a bad idea.

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    well, on the k2u site they have dancers emails listed, so clearly thats not realy the case in RI or atleast at this club. i thought mike made some good points. if you publish your email and other personal info you never know what psychos(such as the one typing now :-P ) are gonna get it. and what they'll do with it. with regards to "never give it out to a customer" thats going a little extreme...but showing some caution and only giving it out after some trust is biult wouldn't be a bad idea.
    the only thing sandy is that the k2u emails are just that: k2u emails...not the dancer's personal email address. They are business email accounts that all end in "k2u.com". Now if the dancer replies, and uses her own email address, then that address appears. But again, the dancer doesn't have to use her personal email address, or an address that identifies her real name or her im handle. In other words, if the dancer wants to maintain her privacy, she can. So what I'm saying is that if Amber/Mandi is concerned with her privacy but doesn't want to prevent people from emailing her altogether, then she should consider using a more discreet email address. In fact, she could always list her email as strictly [email protected] way, she wouldn't have to worry about weirdos sending im's etc.

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    Amber, I would definetly block the guy, and then the next time he comes into the club make sure he understands that all future contact will come ONLY in the club. The advice about using caution in giving out ANY personal info also seems like a good idea. Good luck.

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    One thing you can do is go to Hotmail or some other free email service and create one (or many) different email identity - and be sure when you fill out the profile of the 'fake' identity, you don't use any of your real information. Just give our your real/personal email addr to your friends/family and give out a different email addr to customer's/psycho's. This way you can give out the other email addr to a customer, and if he turns into a psycho, you can just ignore/block his email's - and he can't get any real info about you if you didn't put any real data about yourself in your profile.

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    I don't know if anyone has seen that movie "Swimfan" where the psychotic girl stalks a high school swimmer. I remember this scene where he was trying to do his homework and she kept IMing him constantly. Creepy, (although Erika Christensen can stalk me anytime ).

    The point is, considering the security concerns, a dancer should NEVER give out her IM address (or home address, or phone #'s).

    As far as e-mail goes, she should get a disposable e-mail account from Yahoo or Hotmail that she can use to inform customers of her schedule, and perhaps set up the best time to set up "appointments" at the club with her regulars so she doesn't have to juggle two of them at once. DON'T give them your personal e-mail that you use for friends and family.

    As far as the wacko customers go, yes, I say killfile their address. Maybe they'll get the point.
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    Use hotmail and a DIFFERENT name for IM. I am not a big fan of IM except for limited purposes. E-mail is far more efficient.

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    If you are trying to maintain his business, you should be able to make yourself invisible to those online. One of my programs let's you pick which people you want to see your online status. This would be easier than blocking. Still you should talk with him and set some boundries. If he doesn't you may have to cut him off as a customer.
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    Amber, you should charge $5.99/min....or maybe per question in this case....
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    I would block him and ignore his emails. It's your call as to weather you want to talk to him about this in the club or not. Be prepared to have him stop spending money on you....Obsessive guys tend to mistake an email address as a sign of interest on the dancer's part. This guy is trying to turn a business relationship into something more. Be carefull with him.
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    Actually, the K2U emails are not seperate accounts.
    No, I know Amber, but what what I'm saying is that if you combine giving out the K2U address with getting a more discreet email address like you said, then your problem should be solved. Also, it might make the people to whom you give out the address feel like they're not particularly special as anybody with a computer could get the address. In other words, it's like saying, sure here's my address, email me anytime without saying "here's an invitation to be my one and only intimate cyberfriend". You can be nice without giving anybody the wrong idea.

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    LMAO... I can see it now...
    "Here's my email address..oh... wait... Are you under the catagory of friend/family or customer/psycho?"
    I can tell this would go over huge! LOL
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    A good way for fans and phychos alike to get in tough with their favorite dancer is to have a personal website. That way when you broadcast your hot and steamy diary or post your schedule, its meant for everybody. If you market one-one, some chemically imbalanced people take it as a personal invitation and say wow she gave me her personal email, I'm totally in.
    whats a PL to do?

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    This is why I no longer use any IMs at all. Too many weirdos who seem to have endless patience and persistence to track down your handle, etc. Even if you log in as 'invisible', they'll still IM you to death because they know the messages still get through one way or another. Email is the only way to have contact with a customer. If you're on AOL, minimize your AOL window, open an Explorer or Navigator window and get an anonymous yahoo or hotmail account with your stage name on it. Only use that account with customers, never your AOL email account - too easy for them to track you that way.

    Mike is right that we are sort of mini-celebrities and to top it off we work in the sex industry so there is no end to the weirdos we can have bugging us. Gotta protect yourself!

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