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    I just had a conversation with one of my close, "righteous up-on-a-pedestal" friends and his attitude is "how can you go to a strip bar, you are cheating on your GF." He even said "How do you justify unfaithful acts? " (unfaithful acts referring to my ATF sometimes kissing me on the cheek, rubbing her tits on my face, me rubbing her back, etc etc...")

    What do you guys with SOs think? cheating or not? What do your SOs think?

    my GF is ok with me going to the SB....but if she saw me getting a dance with my ATF, she would probably be pissed...but i'm not fucking my ATF and she doesnt have my heart, so i dont think its cheating
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    Well, I should probably start by sayin gthat our opinion of whether it is cheating is really not applicable to your life. The important opinions in this matter are yours and your GFs, and nobody else's.

    I really think the more important question is whether it is disrespectful to deliberately continue an activity that may be upsetting to your GF? And whether her feelings regarding LDs with your ATF stem from simple possessiveness, or from a lack of trust? Again, though, these are questions that can only be answered by you and her.

    That having been said, my personal opinion is that it is not cheating unless you are engaging in sexual activity, or unless you are romantically / sexually pursuing the ATF in question. But it should probably be noted that I am of a somewhat more liberal mind than many women when it comes to relationships, and there are probably thousands (if not millions) of women who would disagree with me.

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    I don't feel it's cheating,If there is no sex. The good Lord put pretty women on the earth for us to enjoy.
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    Another non-issue for me, I've no S.O. so anything goes, at least in my book.



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    From the NCAA SC Rulebook: 1a) The Clinton Rule: only one act constitutes sex. 1b) No sex, no foul. 2a) Love is only brain chemistry. 3a) Use discretionary money only. 3b) Never complain, never explain. 3c) Get caught once and you're out of the game.

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    It's no more cheating by a customer with an SO than it is for a stripper with an SO. It's all just a game isn't it?
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    I don't think it is cheating. I do hope you are as open-minded about your girlfriend getting a dance from a hot male dancer who is rubbing his erection all over her body

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    I don't think that it's cheating to be going to a strip club. I don't mind that my fiance goes out to the clubs and he'll pretend he doesn't mind that I dance (he thinks it's beneath me.....sweet sentiment, but slightly irritating). As long as there's no sex or romantic attachments I don't think it matters.

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    Since everyone on this board is more liberal than the average bear, no one is going to say it's cheating. But I remember Oprah doing a show on this topic several years back, and one of the women in the audience said that it was a form of cheating if you deliberately go to the club to spend time with that one dancer (ATF), you are there talking with her, having drinks, she's sitting on your lap for hours, your having intimate conversations, etc. Mentally your cheating. Your spending time sharing things with another women, when you should be spending that time with your SO.

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    OMG......I watched Dr. Phil's show a few times. That guy is so irritating. I swear, he and Oprah are out to make sure that no one has a good time.

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    I do hope you are as open-minded about your girlfriend getting a dance from a hot male dancer who is rubbing his erection all over her body
    she isnt allowed at male strip clubs......j/k

    actually as long as I dont have to go with her, its cool

    i saw some footage of a male strip club on TV....(dont know how much is actually reality and not), but seems to me girls get more wilder than guys at strip clubs...In the footage i saw the girls were all screaming and whistling at the guy on stage and feeling his muscles. (too bad thats not commonplace at female clubs )
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    i saw some footage of a male strip club on TV....(dont know how much is actually reality and not), but seems to me girls get more wilder than guys at strip clubs...In the footage i saw the girls were all screaming and whistling at the guy on stage and feeling his muscles. (too bad thats not commonplace at female clubs )
    I've seen pictures (again, could've been staged) but they tell an even worse story about women at male strip clubs. Women at the club were fondling the guy's package, rubbing oil all over the guys, some even using their mouths on the guy (yes, down there). These may have been bachelorette parties and not normal club activity but still, OMG!! :o
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    If she saw you getting a dance from your ATF she would be really pissed off.

    By you admitting to this statement that alone tells you that you are cheating on her.
    If you can go to a SC and get extras and HAVE an ATF THEN she can go to a bar and talk to other men and hopefully she will meet someone who will not cheat on her.

    This is the risk you are taking. Losing your GF for your ATF and SC.

    She does not have to go to a Male Club to meet men of meaning. She will meet someone who cares about her feelings, apparently you don't.

    I can't believe that she is not allowed to go to a Male SC. You are a double standard.
    I hope she meets someone who is good to her.
    You are a very selfish double standard person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janazoo
    If she saw you getting a dance from your ATF she would be really pissed off.

    By you admitting to this statement that alone tells you that you are cheating on her.
    If you can go to a SC and get extras and HAVE an ATF THEN she can go to a bar and talk to other men and hopefully she will meet someone who will not cheat on her.

    This is the risk you are taking. Losing your GF for your ATF and SC.

    She does not have to go to a Male Club to meet men of meaning. She will meet someone who cares about her feelings, apparently you don't.
    This is a pretty gratuitous amount of vitriol isn't it? Particularly for a thread that hasn't been replied to in eightteen months.

    Quote Originally Posted by janazoo
    I can't believe that she is not allowed to go to a Male SC. You are a double standard.
    I hope she meets someone who is good to her.
    You are a very selfish double standard person.
    You know, if you're going to recklessly pass judgment on others, maybe you should at least do it on the full context of what they wrote. So let me quote 'X' again, boldface emphasis by me:

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    she isnt allowed at male strip clubs......j/k

    actually as long as I dont have to go with her, its cool

    Doesn't sound like a double standard to me.
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    Default Re: Cheating or not?

    Ask yourself a simple question. Does your SO know that you are going to strip clubs? Does she know that you are paying a strange woman to rub her tits (or more) in your face? If she does, and she's OK with it then I guess you are not cheating. If she doesn't know there must be a reason why you aren't teling her.

    I'm with JZ. I don't really care if you cheat or not. Life is full of grey areas and the rationality of groping for cash and it's implications certainly is one of them. Pulling the wool over your SO's eyes is one thing. To me it's more important that you are not trying to fool yourself.
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