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    There has been some discussion in other threads about the going rate. LOL. I don't remember any threads on the topic here. Surprising since this is a guy's forum. I did find this on the Pink site while looking for something else.

    http://www.ass-c.com/mbot-pda-list.htm

    If this had been posted, maybe that guy wouldn't have been taken for 6 small at FBR's club. LOL.

    If you want to read the ladies comments....

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/ind...;threadid=2229


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    Holly shit! I wonder if those girls know that they are being scrutinized?

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    typical. some of the responses were pretty cogent, while others were nothing more than the usual SW knee-jerk response. juding from some of the responses, i still find it amazing how ignorant some of the dancers seem to be of the sex industry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16386#msg16386 date=1072113070
    Holly shit! I wonder if those girls know that they are being scrutinized?
    you're kidding,right? word of mouth is one of the best forms (and cheapest) of advertisement.
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    yah, i gave diana_blake a useless laudatory karma point for semi-standing up to the crap she received. it was easier to give her a point, then negative points to all but like 2 dancers who posted on that thread basically tearing her appart. and the reason they tore her appart??? She used to work in a club where extras/sex was a standard....not even because she was in the act of performing extras in their no-touch clubs. it appears that some(maybe most, i dont know, dont really care, but not all) of these girls are incredibly steadfast in their beleifs that they do not work in the sex industry. the way i see it, stripping, porn, and prostitution are all in the same genre. its like sports. theres baseball, golf, hockey, etc. none is inherintly better or worse then the other, just different shades of the same concept. but ofcorse a girl who just airdances (time to sound like a prick: spreading her snatch for any guy over the age of 18 for a buck) is much holier and a better person than someone who would touch a penis with her hand, mouth and/or vagina. how gastly!!!! lol, gimme a fucking(lol, yes pun) break. :idiot:

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishnet link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16379#msg16379 date=1072107904
    Anyone else notice that only one dancer provides a "full menu" on that list. Option "x" must be her own little niche... LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sander8son link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16397#msg16397 date=1072122697
    it appears that some(maybe most, i dont know, dont really care, but not all) of these girls are incredibly steadfast in their beleifs that they do not work in the sex industry.
    i guess all customers show up just for the conversation or watch the stage show and nothing else ? what is this the movie "Flashdance"? the only place i can think of, where this occurs is the hostess scene in L.A. and if you think nothing funny goes on in some of those clubs, think again.

    still, it's not surprising in the least. i've heard the various "these girls are ruining the business" counter-arguments such as, "the stripclub isn't the place for extras." or "if a girl does extras, then we won't make any money" or "they will expect them every girl." they're not very compelling reasons,if you ask me. it sounds more like a gigantic sob story by attempting to appeal to someone's sense of pity.
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    thing is, those sob stories are mostly true. if it was a market without regulation/legality, it would be like what i believe melonie is getting at(high end glitz clubs with only the youngest/prettiest girls) and brothel type establishments with the other girls. also, in said brothel, the better looking girls could charge more for same services provided by the less attractive, or do just as well as the less attractive offering fewer services. but hey, how terrible that would be, THATS JUST WHAT THE MARKET IS DEMANDING. they're lucky that guys are willing to pay for sex. there are very few women out there willing to pay me for sex.

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    Most dancers are NOT ho types, and that's what makes clubs so much fun. There is no "going rate."... A girl turns down $400 for an extra and gives it to another guy she likes for free on impulse. One day she wants to get even with her cheating BF; the next day she loves him again.... It's a continuous game of chance, a casino inside a club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sander8son link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16416#msg16416 date=1072133409
    ..there are very few women out there willing to pay me for sex.
    they dont pay you either? I thought it was just me.

    You also said very few, hopefully you find one...
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    sander8son wrote:
    it appears that some(maybe most, i dont know, dont really care, but not all) of these girls are incredibly steadfast in their beleifs that they do not work in the sex industry. the way i see it, stripping, porn, and prostitution are all in the same genre. its like sports. theres baseball, golf, hockey, etc. none is inherintly better or worse then the other, just different shades of the same concept.
    I am aware (and proud) that I work in the sex industry. But to carry on the sports anology, if I'm a golfer, I'm not going to be comfortable on a hockey rink. There are differeces in different areas of the sex industry and I am in my area for certain reasons.

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    thats great anais, then you get my point. my point wasn't that if you're a golfer you should like hockey too. just that you shouldn't put it down as being a lessor sport.

    and for the record, i wasn't saying there's anything wrong with the sex industry or working in it. i applaud those who have the courage to do it.

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    So since we are talking about the "going rate" I thought I'd ask what the going rate for dances is in your area?

    I find that $20 is the typical .
    More and more cities are going 25+ though.

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    for topless its basically $20. clubs that charge $20 the girl usually gets all or most. if they charge $25/song, the girl keeps $20, $5 to the house. nude prices are all over the map. this is for RI.

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    Dance prices in upstate NY are either $20 or $25 per song, depending on the club. A tip equal to the price of the dance per song is expected (practically mandatory), so customer cost is actually $40-$50/song. I'm not sure what the club take is. This is for nude dances, and I guess medium contact.
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    Heh, since we're comparing those in the sex industry to sports players: I am quite sure alot of golfers look down on hockey players, whether they admit it or not.

    I don't have a problem with other sex workers, but let's face it, it is human nature for people to want to separate themselves from what they feel is 'low-class', etc etc etc. No one ever wants to think of themselves as being at the bottom of the social food chain, so there is a natural tendency to hold ourselves just a little higher in our minds than certain others. Not saying it's right, or that I agree with it, or that I consciously do it. But human nature is human nature.

    I do agree with anais though. I may be a golfer, but I don't have a problem with hockey players. I just feel they shouldn't be playing hockey on the golf course! Some of us golfers can get hit by errant hockey pucks!

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    Going rate in my area= all over the map. Tablesides are generally in the $10-$20 range, though what that entails will vary. Private dances are $25-$40, definition of "dance" also varies. Nude dances are at the low end of the spectrum, oddly enough.

    My former club-
    $10 tablesides: No showing the thong, no topless, medium contact.
    $25 lap dances: Anything can and did go, depending on the girl (the worst of it being a firing offense), medium-high contact.

    My current club:
    $10 tablesides: air dance
    $20 tablesides: no showing the thong, one foot on the floor at all times (other rules ad nauseum, which is why I avoid these dances)
    $30 VIP: as long as the girl doesn't remove her thong or make an obvious show of revealing the cookie, then I can't see what they don't allow. The key seems to be the girl; if the girl moves a guy's hands to her ass then the bouncer doesn't budge. It's a very pro-"high roller customer" club. They'll ignore anything to keep the owner or a big spender happy. Medium contact for the ordinary customers.

    The strangest thing is that while my club is widely regarded as the best within two hours' drive, it isn't the most expensive. That honor goes to Cheater's; $20 air dances and $40 VIP with nothing extraordinary going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16534#msg16534 date=1072319957
    I don't have a problem with other sex workers, but let's face it, it is human nature for people to want to separate themselves from what they feel is 'low-class', etc etc etc. No one ever wants to think of themselves as being at the bottom of the social food chain, so there is a natural tendency to hold ourselves just a little higher in our minds than certain others. Not saying it's right, or that I agree with it, or that I consciously do it. But human nature is human nature.
    so, are you going against human nature? or is everyone else wrong? seriously, that's a pretty a weak argument. i could probably list a number of fallacies you just made in that statement. however, here are a few that come to mind:

    (1)"Appeal to Human Nature" - basically, you just solicited help from an all-powerful authority (human nature) as a deceptively independent final judge in order to absolve humans of any responsibility. or like i once stated to my ex-wife before our divorce: "but honey, it's natural for married men to sleep with other women". you know....for some reason, she never did buy that explanation.

    (2)"Appeal to Antiquity" - justifying the continuation of a certain behavior because "we have always done it that way". or like i told another ex-wife before our divorce: "but honey, the women in my family always cooked and cleaned for their men. why can't you? my mother did it. why do you think my father married her? hmmmm....she didn't buy that buy that one either.
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    Round these parts... tables=$10-15, couch=$25, VIP=$35 Topless, one way contact.
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    Nude couch $20 (one way contact)
    Nude VIP $30 (two way contact) or $150/30 min
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16534#msg16534 date=1072319957
    Heh, since we're comparing those in the sex industry to sports players: I am quite sure alot of golfers look down on hockey players, whether they admit it or not.
    ............
    I do agree with anais though. I may be a golfer, but I don't have a problem with hockey players. I just feel they shouldn't be playing hockey on the golf course! Some of us golfers can get hit by errant hockey pucks!

    whats wrong with red herrings? i like arguing completely off topic, non-important, side remarks....

    first off, actually a lot of hockey players also have golf as they're number one hobby(some even live on golf courses). and hey, what if its winter time? strap on your skates and hit the frozen links, sounds like a good synthesis to me.


    ok, back to reality.

    are you upset about hockey players playing golf on the course because you think then they'll shut the course down for illegal course play? or is it because the fans are gravitating towards watching/playing hockey rather than golf? (wait, are we talking about sports or stripping?)

    to be honest with you, if there was a continuum of better to worse in regards to air dancers, contact dancers, contact +extras dancers, those who engage in sexual intercorse/bjs(for money), and porn stars......... id say the all out prostitutes are more usefull to society and therefor better people. air dancers and porn stars would be the most useless. they provide almost no service.

    but hey, im just a guy that demands results and generally some return on investment. fleeting visual memories just dont mean much to me.

    hey cool, they have a smiley of me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16562#msg16562 date=1072362969
    Punk, always picking apart every little thing and turning it into something it's not.
    did i really turn it into something it's not or is that just a knee jerk reaction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16562#msg16562 date=1072362969
    First you said my statement was a "pretty weak argument", then you said it's not an argument. Make up your mind.
    "pretty weak argument" is a commment on the robustness of your statement. futhermore, an argument can be weak and fallacious. one does not necessarily negate the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16562#msg16562 date=1072362969
    I know you enjoy picking on me
    i dared to question your statement and you call that "picking on you"? makes perfect sense to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16562#msg16562 date=1072362969
    apparently because I don't fit into what you think is a 'good little stripper'.
    actually, it had nothing to do with being a certain type stripper. the first nine words of your statement were fine. the next to last sentence of your statement was fine also. it's the rest of your statement that i questioned for reasons stated previously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16562#msg16562 date=1072362969
    I don't care.
    no. i don't suppose you would....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16555#msg16555 date=1072354236
    seriously, that's a pretty a weak argument.
    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16559#msg16559 date=1072358612
    because it's not an argument
    A later version of this comment:
    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16559#msg16559 date=1072358612
    because it's not an valid argument, but an fallacious argument.
    (« Last Edit: Yesterday at 05:24:50pm by mr_punk » )

    Nice editing there, after I pointed out your little 'slip-up'.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16562#msg16562 date=1072362969
    First you said my statement was a "pretty weak argument", then you said it's not an argument. Make up your mind.
    (« Last Edit: Yesterday at 10:39:45am by Bridgette » )

    Notice the times of these posts and edits. Notice my last edit to the post pointing out your error was at 10:39am, and your last edit to your offending comment was at 5:24pm, after your backtracking post above of 4:51pm. An obvious attempt to cover your 'guilt'. If you're going to pick apart every little thing someone says, make sure you're being TOTALLY accurate with your picking and arguments. And don't change your original comments after someone points out your booboo only to later pretend you didn't really say that. Like I said, make up your mind.

    Of course, all post and edit times I refer to correspond to my time zone. Adjust the hours of ALL of them to fit your own time zone.

    As for the rest of your comments - pick, pick, pick. Nitpick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16562#msg16562 date=1072362969
    Regarding the Going Rate:
    Here in PR the going rate is wide-ranging. At most clubs, from what I can gather, the going rate is pretty damn cheap for a 'dance'. A 'dance' at most clubs usually entails alot of extras. At my club, the going rate is set by the club. Customers pay to the club, not to the girls, unless they tip extra, which can only be done in cash, as the club will not run dancer tips on cc tabs or for extra funny money.
    Prices are as follows:

    Topless lapdance - low-medium contact (customers can't touch at all): $30

    VIP per half hour - medium contact (customers can touch but not butt, boobs or crotch):
    Minimum - incl 4 drinks to the table: $200 total. Dancer cut $120.
    Champagne rates - bottle is separate from dancer's part:
    Moet $100 Dancer $120
    Veuve $125 Dancer $140
    Perrier $200 Dancer $150
    Perrier Rose $240 Dancer $150
    Perrier Demi $280 Dancer $150
    Dom Perignon $300 Dancer $150
    Grande Damme $400 Dancer $200
    Krug $500 Dancer $250
    Cristal $600 Dancer $300 and up (the up is whatever the dancer gets the guy to agree to) - for Cristal the guy gets 45 minutes rather than 30.

    Most guys buy the minimum during regular business hours, some will buy one of the Perrier's or Veuve (those who just spend more money). Guys who want to have two girls must buy Dom or above. For anyone who wants to stay in VIP after last call, they have to buy Dom or above. After the first after-hours round, if they still want to stay, they must buy Cristal for each subsequent 45 minute block. Any guy who has 2 girls after hours has to buy Cristal even on the first round. These may sound like crazy numbers, but you'd be surprised how many guys do it. The club closes at 4am weeknights and 5am Th-Sat, and it is common for me to be finishing up at 6am, and not unusual to be finishing at 7-8am. Heh, this is why I'm still here putting up with alot of BS from the club.
    I'm surprised how many morons and/or lonely guys are willing to pay those prices. I'll gladly go for the minimum and go home early



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    From the Mod: This topic is turning into a he said /she said argument and has lost any semblance of what it was meant to be.... please keep any disagreements to the topic at hand and refrain from personal attacks. Thanks ~ Chuck

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16594#msg16594 date=1072448261
    <snip>As for the rest of your comments - pick, pick, pick. Nitpick.
    oh no! Bridgette caught me editing my posts! wait! i give up,Bridgette. i can&#039;t get anything past you!


    hmmmm....I see you&#039;re not still familiar with the rules of logic. The burden of proof is on the claimant, especially with regard to claims of a fantastic nature (human nature in your case). i point out the contradictions of your statement and you defend it. that&#039;s how it usually works. in any case, this is either a textbook example of denial or you&#039;re being willfully obtuse or you still don&#039;t quite get it, yet. as i mentioned before you&#039;re not familiar with rules of logic. i tried to make my statements as plain as possible without becoming...a bit too techinal. judging from your responses. i can see that i failed in that regard. you see, Bridgette. in the end, it doesn&#039;t matter if i edited my post or not. the points i just made still stand and you still haven&#039;t explained the contradictions in your post. futhermore, complete sentences would be most helpful if you decide to respond. sorry, but "nitpicking" doesn&#039;t really help . finally, if only want Yes-Men, White Knights,and cheerleaders to respond to your posts. if you only want posters to unfailingly accept whatever statements drop out of your mouth. if you don&#039;t want any poster to challenge the comments you make in your posts. well, all you have to do is ask. in any case, you will probably have a better luck finding such a poster on SW.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=1;threadid=1102;start=msg16562#msg16562 date=1072362969
    I don&#039;t care. Pick away.
    i will. however, if you didn&#039;t care. why bother to respond?
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