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    Quote Originally Posted by Brel link=board=2;threadid=854;start=msg18251#msg18251 date=1075258545
    I was also offered a private show by my ATF back in the beginning of December. I agreed, and we set up a date, and we'd meet at her place for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brel link=board=2;threadid=854;start=msg18251#msg18251 date=1075258545
    The day finally came, and first I got a call from her saying she's running late and give her another hour, so I say OK.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brel link=board=2;threadid=854;start=msg18251#msg18251 date=1075258545
    Then I just get on the road heading to her place (about 40 min away), feeling real nervous. Never did this before Get a call on my cell. She says we have to cancel, this problem, that problem, blah blah blah.
    Note: i edited this copied and edited this post from a thread in Club Chat.

    so, what happened? the cat ate her stash and OD'd and she had to take it to the vet, someone broke a drumstick over her head and she had to go to the emergency room or was she sucked thru a tear in the fabric of the space-time continuum and she's waiting to give you that private dance five days in the future?

    whatever happened, keep this in mind. this sort of occurrence is pretty common with sex workers. so, if you're going to deal with dancers outside the club. you should realize that there is a certain degree of flakiness that comes along with it. of course, there are exceptions but with most dancers, it's just a matter of degrees. some are less flakey than others. why? take your pick...drugs, alcohol, lack of a work ethic, immaturity, youth, etc.

    next time, set a convenient meeting place 10 or 15 minutes away from your location. tell her to give you a call, if she doesn't see you at the meet. if she actually shows up. you're only 10-15 minutes away. if she doesn't show, then you're not too inconvenience and you can go to plan "B". assuming you have a plan "B" . granted, sometimes unexpected occurrences do happen. however, until she shows some measure of consistency and reliability, never take a dancer's word too seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg18349#msg18349 date=1075431541

    whatever happened, keep this in mind. this sort of occurrence is pretty common with sex workers. so, if you're going to deal with dancers outside the club. you should realize that there is a certain degree of flakiness that comes along with it. of course, there are exceptions but with most dancers, it's just a matter of degrees. some are less flakey than others. why? take your pick...drugs, alcohol, lack of a work ethic, immaturity, youth, etc.
    So, all sex workers abuse drugs, alchohol, are immature, and lack a work ethic?

    Hmmm...sounds like you don't hold sex workers in very high regard. So why do you patronize them?

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    I think MrP and Adina are going to fall in love and get married

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adina link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg18353#msg18353 date=1075432697
    So, all sex workers abuse drugs, alchohol, are immature, and lack a work ethic?
    you're joking, right? where did i say "all" sex workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adina link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg18353#msg18353 date=1075432697
    Hmmm...sounds like you don't hold sex workers in very high regard. So why do you patronize them?
    then allow me to correct your misconception. i patronize the consistent and reliable sex worker. why would anyone want to patronize the inconsistent and unreliable sex worker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg18356#msg18356 date=1075433903
    Quote Originally Posted by Adina link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg18353#msg18353 date=1075432697
    So, all sex workers abuse drugs, alchohol, are immature, and lack a work ethic?
    you're joking, right? where did i say "all" sex workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adina link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg18353#msg18353 date=1075432697
    Hmmm...sounds like you don't hold sex workers in very high regard. So why do you patronize them?
    then allow me to correct your misconception. i patronize the consistent and reliable sex worker. why would anyone want to patronize the inconsistent and unreliable sex worker?
    LOL...and I was just going to say because it feels soooo good!
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    So if I call my ATF 'old reliable', do you think she will like it?
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    The whole subculture runs on impulses. You just have to know how to read them.

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    This situation says to me that the lady promised something she couldn't go through with, she crossed that in the club -- out of the club line that measures many dancers personal moral standard. Her stalling was probably her being unsure how to get out of it without loosing her regular customer. If substances are involved at all my guess is it was involved at the time she offered the private show. Was the lady drunk when she made the offer by chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg18349#msg18349 date=1075431541

    so, what happened? the cat ate her stash and OD'd and she had to take it to the vet, someone broke a drumstick over her head and she had to go to the emergency room or was she sucked thru a tear in the fabric of the space-time continuum and she's waiting to give you that private dance five days in the future?
    All legitimate possibilities, I suppose, in many alternate universes. I don't believe any of them happened here though!

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg18349#msg18349 date=1075431541
    whatever happened, keep this in mind. this sort of occurrence is pretty common with sex workers. so, if you're going to deal with dancers outside the club. you should realize that there is a certain degree of flakiness that comes along with it. of course, there are exceptions but with most dancers, it's just a matter of degrees. some are less flakey than others. why? take your pick...drugs, alcohol, lack of a work ethic, immaturity, youth, etc.
    I would imagine that flakiness is a common occurence. Of course, one might say that the average strip-club-junkie is just as, if not more, flaky. Why else would we expect real relationships to ever form in this kind of scenario?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg18349#msg18349 date=1075431541
    next time, set a convenient meeting place 10 or 15 minutes away from your location. tell her to give you a call, if she doesn't see you at the meet. if she actually shows up. you're only 10-15 minutes away. if she doesn't show, then you're not too inconvenience and you can go to plan "B". assuming you have a plan "B" . granted, sometimes unexpected occurrences do happen. however, until she shows some measure of consistency and reliability, never take a dancer's word too seriously.
    I like your idea about the setting of a convenient meeting place, only 10 or so minutes away. Very ingenious! I must say that I have no Plan B in mind. Perhaps I should adopt "Plan 9 from Outer Space" as my alternate. That was very straight forward (for those that know what I'm talking about!)

    Too seriously? No, thats not gonna happen. The whole thing is so surreal, how can one take it seriously? ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLovesJazz link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg18372#msg18372 date=1075483524
    This situation says to me that the lady promised something she couldn't go through with, she crossed that in the club -- out of the club line that measures many dancers personal moral standard. Her stalling was probably her being unsure how to get out of it without loosing her regular customer. If substances are involved at all my guess is it was involved at the time she offered the private show. Was the lady drunk when she made the offer by chance?
    The interesting part is that we had gotten together previously on a number of occassions. The previous times were more on a "platonic" friendly level. In fact, it was on one of these get-togethers that she suggested the private dance routine. And no, there were no substances involved at the time, everyone was totally straight.

    On her first message (where she said give her an extra hour), she sounded genuinely "excited" about our meeting. And on the second call, sounded genuinely unhappy about cancelling. But, hey, what do I know, maybe she's a good actress, or can really wield the SS.

    Time will only tell if I ever hear from her again, and whether the meet-up will happen. At this point, I'm not holding my breath! I do believe that more than her fair share of flaky stuff is going on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brel link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg18383#msg18383 date=1075500587
    I would imagine that flakiness is a common occurence. Of course, one might say that the average strip-club-junkie is just as, if not more, flaky. Why else would we expect real relationships to ever form in this kind of scenario?
    i don't dispute that idea. however, i wouldn't call customers who expect a real relationship with a stripper flaky, that would be an understatement. a psychotic delusional belief would probably be more accurate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brel link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg18383#msg18383 date=1075500587
    But, hey, what do I know, maybe she's a good actress, or can really wield the SS.
    a lot of both, IMHO.
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    just an observation, most of the "flaky" dancers I know seem to be young and uh, not centered well, I think that the stripping tends to draw girls like that because of the fact that it is a job that dosn't fire you for being iresponibe, acting weird, and drinking while working,

    but most of the long time dancers are some of the shrudest women I know, the "flakes" just don't last that long, either they grow up or the job tears then down..... :'(

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg18355#msg18355 date=1075433707
    I think MrP and Adina are going to fall in love and get married

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adina link=board=14;threadid=1207;start=msg18351#msg1835 1 date=1075432304
    Hey, you know what would really turn me on? A porno with me sporting a 12" strap-on, and mr. punk as my BOB (bend-over boyfriend). Whaddya say, punk, are you game?
    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=14;threadid=1207;start=msg18354#msg1835 4 date=1075433190
    i didn't know you cared. to answer your question, that would depend. i have a 2 hour minimum. my rates are $100/hr, but if you expect me to shut up and not to be an obnoxious smart ass then my rates $1000/hr.
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    Well, I hope I get invited to the wedding reception. I love an open bar LOL

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    Actually, I thought Adina was Mr P's own personal troll. LOL. But hell I'm open. If they get married, an open bar sounds good.
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    Hey, maybe they'll get married at the Scj Convention in Myrtle Beach. wouldn't that be something LMAO
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    Honestly speaking, I have decent work ethic (not super fabulous, just decent), I dont abuse drugs or alcohol, yet I am flaky. Im sorry, Im constantly late, the only difference is that when I back-out of set plans, I would have definitely given more notice.
    While there are alot of sex workers that are extremely reliable and punctual, it is true that the industry does have more than its fair share of flakes.
    Sorry, not patronizing, just being truthful of my own actions and observations over the last 9 years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NikkiD link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg19051#msg19051 date=1076593301
    Honestly speaking, I have decent work ethic (not super fabulous, just decent), I dont abuse drugs or alcohol, yet I am flaky. Im sorry, Im constantly late, the only difference is that when I back-out of set plans, I would have definitely given more notice.
    i'm sure everything you stated is true. i didn't mean to imply otherwise. i just wanted to point out this situation to the male posters who are so hell-bent on getting to know sex workers on a personal level, which is further complicated by his own high expectations.

    Quote Originally Posted by NikkiD link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg19051#msg19051 date=1076593301
    While there are alot of sex workers that are extremely reliable and punctual, it is true that the industry does have more than its fair share of flakes.
    sure. i'm always surprised most dancers are so touchy about the subject. strippers always say stripping is a job. well, stripper damage is no different than any other occupational hazard. take a young immature woman (emotionally/intellectually) and put her into a working enviroment where she learns to exploit her sexuality in order to a earn a large amount of money for very little time/effort. tell her that she has to hide her occupation from friends, family members, children, etc, mix that with the availability of drugs and an industry that's run by Tony Soprano or a Tony Soprano wannabe. i could go on, but you get the idea. it takes a certain mindset to work in the sex industry, because even sex workers who may seem successful really don't belong in the industry.
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    Im not sure why anyone is touchy either, there was no accusations made towards anyone in particular.
    I asked alot of girls at work today why so many of us are unreliable and the general consensus is "BECAUSE WE CAN BE".
    Sound crazy? maybe, but is there any other job in the world where they actually give you a credit just for being on time? If you are late or dont even bother to show up (or call) at all, most businesses would send you packing, right? Not this job. Thank God.


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    Nikki, you have a refreshingly honest outlook. One of my current favs just got her cell phone turned off because she didnt pay the bill. And this lady makes plenty of money. She may be hot as hell but boy is she irresponsible sometimes.

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    My first ATF said it best: "I'm just like you, except I fuck up and flip out." But that's a BIG difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikkiD link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg19085#msg19085 date=1076660330
    Sound crazy? maybe, but is there any other job in the world where they actually give you a credit just for being on time?
    the porn industry, except they give you credit if you show up on time and sober.

    Quote Originally Posted by NikkiD link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg19085#msg19085 date=1076660330
    If you are late or dont even bother to show up (or call) at all, most businesses would send you packing, right? Not this job. Thank God.
    well, i wouldn't compare the talent in sex industry to the employees of a mainstream business. however, i will say that many strippers couldn't hold a 9 to 5, much less get there on time. some are barely awake by noon. in any case, you are correct. you really don't have to learn the importance of timeliness or develop a work ethic if you're a stripper.

    Quote Originally Posted by FBR link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg19093#msg19093 date=1076676691
    One of my current favs just got her cell phone turned off because she didnt pay the bill. And this lady makes plenty of money. She may be hot as hell but boy is she irresponsible sometimes.
    LOL . someone once said, "anyone who hasn't been stood up by a stripper has never asked one out". you know, i always chuckle when guys write posts extolling the character and virtues of a woman they just met (or who they know little about outside the club) and paid $20 to sit on their balls. it gets real funny when they start to have delusions that she likes him and is interested in a relationship.

    on the flipside, i always get a chuckle when dancers say that their SO has to be non-judgemental about their job. HA! being non-judgemental about her job is the least of his worries. how about the time when you have plans to do something and she completely flakes out or does something else completely irresponsible. it's a difficult type of relationship on a practical level. the woman has to be very responsible and unfortunately the business isn't conducive to the development of that characteristic. someone has to be the adult in the relationship and it will probably fall on your shoulders.....or you could avoid all that crap by leaving that responsibility to the musician/suitcase pimp BF.

    Quote Originally Posted by FBR link=board=2;threadid=1077;start=msg19092#msg19092 date=1076676565
    SW, interesting thought on the cell phone LOL The only problem is Im not sure Id trust her with a phone I was paying for. We would have to work out some sort of "accountability" plan LOL
    p.s. : don't ever give a stripper something you're not willing to lose. there are plenty of delusional PLs with scorched credit histories because they trusted a stripper to be responsible.
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    p.s. : don't ever give a stripper something you're not willing to lose. there are plenty of delusional PLs with scorched credit histories because they trusted a stripper to be responsible.



    First of all, why would you give anyone something that you can't afford to lose?
    Second of all, there are thousands upon thousands of people with "scorched credit histories"
    I admitted to being somewhat irresponsible, I did not say that I was completely unable to handle anything.
    As for credit goes, I rarely pay bills late and my credit is in pristine shape.

    Be realistic in your generalizations, not just bash every stripper!


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    Quote Originally Posted by NikkiD link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg19134#msg19134 date=1076770059
    First of all, why would you give anyone something that you can't afford to lose?
    you're joking right? you don't think a PL hasn't done something foolish like meet a dancer at a car dealership to help her get a new car? you don't think a PL has never fallen for the latest SOB story by a dancer? while FBR's case is far from being a horror story. however, if FBR is reluctant to trust her with a phone (he's paying for) because she couldn't be bothered to pay her phone bill. the simple fact that a customer would even even consider the idea should given you an idea of how far customers can go.

    Quote Originally Posted by NikkiD link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg19134#msg19134 date=1076770059
    Second of all, there are thousands upon thousands of people with "scorched credit histories"
    yes, there are plenty of people with scorched credit histories. however, i'm not talking about a dancer who scorched her own credit history. i'm talking about the customer with a good credit history that was ruined because he trusted some dancer to be responsible. if some PL wants to buy a piano for a dancer, fine by me. i would just make sure to give her cash. however, i wouldn't sign my name to any contract making me liable for anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by NikkiD link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg19134#msg19134 date=1076770059
    I admitted to being somewhat irresponsible, I did not say that I was completely unable to handle anything. As for credit goes, I rarely pay bills late and my credit is in pristine shape.
    no one stated that you're irresponsible. hell, if consider being occasionally late and paying your bills on time irresponsible behavior, believe me, you're light-years ahead of a lot of your peers.

    Quote Originally Posted by NikkiD link=board=9;threadid=1225;start=msg19134#msg19134 date=1076770059
    Be realistic in your generalizations, not just bash every stripper!
    sure, if you would realize that i'm not bashing the stripper, but the customer for being silly enough to trust the stripper.
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    I'm sorry, but isn't each person solely responsible for their own credit? With the exception of fraudulent activity, no one can destroy another persons credit!
    Anyone that disregards the fact that someone doesn't pay their bills and extends some type of loan, isn't thinking too clearly!!
    The fact that we are discussing a dancer is irrelevant, there are people that choose not to pay their bills in ALL occupations, I guarantee it.
    I believe that you are bashing the stripper by criticizing the "customer for trusting the stripper"! As I said, people take advantage of others in ALL walks of life, it isnt fair to pin it to those in this industry!
    When I said that I was irresponsible, I meant that I am often late and sometimes forgetting appointments. I'm not light years ahead of anything, but one has little choice when there is an eight year old child to support.



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