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    I have a few customers/friends that go to strip clubs frequently. Some of them seem frustrated with the fact that the 20-30 year old women do not want to date them. Most of my customers are in the 45-62 age range.

    Have you found that the longer you go to strip clubs the lower the age becomes that you would like to date??

    Also, does it affect how you judge your wife's/girlfriend's looks?

    One more question--When you were in the age range 20-30 did you want to date women 45-62?

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    At first, I thought this would be an easy post, but the more I think about it, the more complex it gets. One, the term dating might just be a generational misunderstanding. From the age of your customers (I am in that catagory as well) "Dating" is just the way we did things. It is a way to show the proper respect. Today things are hmmm, a little different. Also, your customers are from the sixties era of "free love", so they really aren't to be considered naive either. Dating a girl from a SC. one would have to be extremely optimistic at best, and delusional at worse. Most of my friends(male) tend to select their regular saloon by 1. the bartender, 2. the clientele. These are their choice for finding "dates". What a SC offers is not only good bartenders, but multiple bartender types that can actually sit and chat with you while you are there.

    I would bet that most of your customers, have regular girls that they come in to see. We have killed a lot of brain cells so we tend to narrow our choices. We tend to be creatures of habit. The only reason we all don't spend more time in SC's is that after about 30 minutes of P-Diddy we are ready to scream. Now if clubs would peg the decibels with the Beatles or the Stones you would have to drag us out.

    As for dating, most girls at a SC, while of course attractive, they either have a personal life that is a disaster (so dating is out of the question, but the alternative is ok) or they are great and of course already taken, which is ok too because you are just glad that they are there.

    As for how it effects the way I have looked at a wife/girlfriend, I really can't say except that when I have been in marriages or relationships, the funny thing is I wasn't going to SC's.

    When we were 20-30 did we want to date women that were 45-62? C'mon, we are guys. Have you ever been asked for an ID from a guy? We called them "life experiences".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jennymodel link=board=1;threadid=1288;start=msg19474#msg19474 date=1077480538
    Have you found that the longer you go to strip clubs the lower the age becomes that you would like to date??
    I'm not in the dating pool, but if I were and I wanted to date a dancer, I'm pretty well stuck with that age group. But I have a fairly clear vision of myself as an old fart, and I wouldn't expect a pretty young lady to want to date me anyway. And ladies who are more age-appropriate to me are also attractive to me. (I guess I just like women.)


    Quote Originally Posted by jennymodel link=board=1;threadid=1288;start=msg19474#msg19474 date=1077480538
    Also, does it affect how you judge your wife's/girlfriend's looks?
    No. I have found that a nice strip club experience improves my sex life.


    Quote Originally Posted by jennymodel link=board=1;threadid=1288;start=msg19474#msg19474 date=1077480538
    One more question--When you were in the age range 20-30 did you want to date women 45-62?
    No. Or, well, probably not. Another reason why I wouldn't expect, if I were in the dating pool, a young lady to want to go out with me.

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    Hey, thanks for all your help, guys. You could be helping a few fellow SCJ's with your answers. You can be honest with your opinions, I promise not to bite.

    I am trying to set up a couple of my friend/customers with some nice girls and I'm just trying to get a little info so I know who to approach and what is in a man's mind about what he wants in a lady.

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    Age doesn't necessarily mean anything. I was totally smitten once by a 48 year old man. However, being 45-62 without an interesting personality or the success one would hope a person has acheived by that age will not help a guy's cause.

    And no, I don't mean 'find an old fart and marry his money". I mean that someone in that age group should not be searching couch cushions to scrape up the last $4 for his rent every month.
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    Jenny,


    Would you tell secretaries and day care workers to forget about doctors, lawyers and bankers and only consider dating "income appropriate" men. Have you or any of your friends every discussed being disappointed that you couldn't meet/date rich guys?

    I saw a Friends repeat recently. Jennifer Aniston is talking with the doofus/actor guy. He wants her to do something that would prevent her from dating a guy she just met.

    Actor: You have to do this.
    J.A. But he's a Wall Street lawyer!
    Actor: What does that have to do with it?
    J.A. (Rolls her eyes) Trust me, it's important!


    So what was that all about, Jenny? What was it that the writers were doing? Is it fair that they were talking to their huge female audience in a way that they would all "get"?

    The message I got was "every girl knows, you sell yourself to the highest bidder."


    I'll tell you what - I'll take your question seriously when women stop trying to date "above their place" in the world.

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    Huh?? Anyways, I was just curious about a few questions so thought it was okay to ask. I have thought of starting a website for younger women to find older men. I think there are women out there that prefer men much older than themselves. I wanted to know why men usually want to date women much younger than themselves and so far, from a friend's view, I have only gotten back the "looks" reply. So I guess the younger woman also needs to be good looking.
    I do find it strange that it is okay to place a high value on a woman's looks, but not okay for a woman to place a high value on a man's financial value...

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    oh, by the way, most of the men I have met who had money I didn't want to date or marry. If you have a bad personality or just don't "click" with someone it doesn't matter how much money you have, at least in my humble opinion.

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    Jon~
    Actually, Jenny didn't say a thing about income. I did. I also clarified that it did not mean that older men must be wealthy to be attractive, merely that it doesn't help if they have frittered away their lives and now appear to be looking for a sugar momma to finance their retirement.

    Next time I highly recommend that you know what you are talking about sometime before you go on the offensive.


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    I think Marilyn Monroe said it best. "Marrying a man with money is just like a gentlemen marrying a beautiful woman. It isn't necessary but, by God, doesn't it help?"
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    Jenny, Methusala and I both got our marraige liscences on the same day so its kind of hard to relate to the whole dating thing but I will try to visualize a "what if I were single" senario.


    The first question that comes to my mind is why would a 45+ guy want to have a relationship with a woman 20 years old? Think about it...25 years difference in age is a whole generation. Drawing from personal experience, lets look at Miss B. Shes 20 and a real sweetie. Id do anything in the world for her that I could but as far as any serious dating...forget about it. When we have conversations, half the time Im listening to her and thinking WTF? She has some wierd outlooks (to me) on many aspects of life. Having said that, would I hook up with her again for a private if the opportunity presented itself? Hell yes! But serious dating material..nope. She gets up too late, parties way too hard for me and enjoys drama more than I think I could handle.

    Miss D is interesting. Shes 24 but is way up on the experience scale. Ive mentioned that shes an Asst Prof at a local university and working on her PHD (its not SS I know for a fact that its true). Because of her education and background (upper middle class) we're able to talk about all kinds of stuff. Shes fun to hang out with and is horny as hell. She switches from mature woman to hot teenage personna so often it makes me dizzy LOL Saturday at our private, we had a very nice mature and interesting conversations over lunch but by the time were checked into the motel shes literally jumping up and down naked on the bed, excited like a kid on Christmas morning LOL Sounds psycho but it was cute as hell. She keeps me offbalance enough that theres no way I could lose interest in her LOL

    Theres a couple of dancers at the club who are around 30 or so. We talk and manage to find some areas of mutual interest. However, to me, it seems as though they are jaded and burned out on life in general...thats sad considering 30 is very young to me. They are 30 going on 50 in terms of heartbreak and just general bullshit. I offer what advise and help I can but an hour of talking to an over the hill stripper with no hope gets to you.

    Im kind of rambling a bit but to summarize, I enjoy the company of the young ones but have a hard time relating to much of what they aspire to. When I can find a hot 20-something that can talk on my level, Im all over it ie: Miss D. I can enjoy the others too but dont take them seriously. The 30+ gals can be attractive but often seem so burned out and bitter, it takes away from the fun. Plus I dont want them viewing me as a candidate for a relationship.

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    FBR, thank you, that was exactly what I was looking for...refreshing candor. I don't mind men enjoying younger women. I think it would be good advice for both men and women of any age to try to stay optimist about life....which at times is not an easy task.

    Lilith...I have seen that quote from MM before...she was a beautiful and very intelligent woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR link=board=1;threadid=1288;start=msg19507#msg19507 date=1077580314
    ...and enjoys drama more than I think I could handle.

    FBR
    Never thought that would come from you...

    I do agree with the maturity level stuff. Or at least equal footing. Many of the younger ladies are fun to look at and play with, but I could never see anything serious. And by equal footing I mean somewhat same level of experiences. Some ladies younger than me have been through a lot of crap and carry around much more baggage (or drama) than I want to deal with. I consider myself immature for my age so I also dont think I could deal with a women equal to my age or over. Granted the if the right one ever came along I could change my perspective, but.... So I guess i am saying I like them younger, but no immature or too jaded. Does that make sense?
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    Since becoming single after a 20 plus year marriage, my dating has been all over the map. 36, 43, 25,32, 28, 38 and 40. This was all prior to my first ever SC visit. In each case, the woman was the best overall package available to me at the time with the highest interest level. LOL. SC visits don't necessarily make me want to date younger. They may have made me even more selective. I want the best conbination of looks personality, dancing ability and apparent chemistry there too.

    Nope. I never dated older women. Wouldn't have had a problem with it if they maintained themselves like Sophia Loren, Farah Fawcett, Bo Derrick and Raquel Welch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jennymodel link=board=1;threadid=1288;start=msg19503#msg19503 date=1077574894

    I do find it strange that it is okay to place a high value on a woman's looks, but not okay for a woman to place a high value on a man's financial value...

    So which is it? Do I understand you to be saying that it IS okay for a woman to place a high value on a man's financial value? If so, why would you question men valuing youth and beauty? What did you mean when you said "You could be helping a few fellow SCJ's with your answers". Have you been telling your girlfriends to stick to construction workers and burger-flippers? Or do you go all giddy when on of them "hits the jackpot" with a Beemer-driving yuppie?

    I read this thread as condescending and hypocritical. If guys want to make fools of themselves chasing much younger women, that's their business. They don't need the pot calling them black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jennymodel link=board=1;threadid=1288;start=msg19474#msg19474 date=1077480538
    Have you found that the longer you go to strip clubs the lower the age becomes that you would like to date??
    not really, but that's due to my physical preference rather than a blind attraction to young'uns. however, i do have a friend of mine who is totally into the young'uns. in fact, i've actually heard him refer to women his own age as the "mature type". physical youth (especially with the increasing epidemic of obesity) isn't that high of a priority for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by jennymodel link=board=1;threadid=1288;start=msg19474#msg19474 date=1077480538
    Also, does it affect how you judge your wife's/girlfriend's looks?
    not really, my last two ex-wives, each had a gym membership card and used it on a regular basis. fortunately, i can say they never slipped up in the looks department. what can i say? i like women who are health conscience.

    Quote Originally Posted by jennymodel link=board=1;threadid=1288;start=msg19474#msg19474 date=1077480538
    One more question--When you were in the age range 20-30 did you want to date women 45-62?
    i have in the past and would do it again, but you have to understand that while they may have been 15+ years older than myself, they sure didn't look like it. it's like the ambiguous opening of that nike commercial. at first, you see this really nice ass and later find out that it belongs to a 50 year old woman. i have to give her credit because you don't see a nice ass like that on a 50 year old broad .

    Quote Originally Posted by jennymodel link=board=1;threadid=1288;start=msg19503#msg19503 date=1077574894
    I do find it strange that it is okay to place a high value on a woman's looks, but not okay for a woman to place a high value on a man's financial value...
    probably due to the fact that the idea of "marrying for love" is a western concept. it's the hot new trend. at least, when you compare it to the way marriage was viewed before the late 19th and 20th century. in those days, marriage was about increasing one's wealth, social status or power. today, outside of the U.S., the financial or social status of the prospective groom is usually a priority for the prospective bride while "love" is a lot further down the list.
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    I will always prefer late 20's/early 30's intelligent, fit women with friendly faces for complete relationships.... But for uninhibited fun, nothing beats a dancer 18-22.

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    This sounds strange but I agree with Lilith to an extent. Age doesn't make that much difference unless the maturity level has a high discrepancy. For example, an older man will have problems with a younger womans free spending tendancies opposed to his conservative spending trends.
    I suppose it is every guys fantasy to date the young cheerleader in high school. That's just part of their genetic programing. I think the more a guy goes to a s.c. he will settle for someone closer to his maturity level.

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    Jenny,

    Very interesting topic. I am in my early 40s as is my wife, who is very attractive and in very good shape. I think there are many very attractive women in the 40 year old range - many of whom if I were looking I would be proud to be dating.

    One big thing I like about having a 24 year old fave is that I don't risk thinking I can date her. There is sort of a comfort level in knowing that our age, interests and positions in life wouldn't make dating feasible. If by contrast I found an uber-babe dancer in her mid-late 30s, that might be just too close for comfort. The possibliilty of really getting along outside the club on a personal level could complicate matters. The age difference gives me the mental permission to enjoy girls at the club knowing that they are no real threat to my relationship at home.

    As a teenager I actually fantasized more about older women than I did about teenage girls - i guess it has something to do with the unattainable. I likely now wouldn't be interested in dating a women 15 to 20 older than me, but I would have when I was 18 and 20.

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    I'd like to date women younger than me but I've also seen women my age and older who are knockouts so you never know.



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    Well, given that I've been in the situation, I'll weigh in, too.

    When my wife and I started dating, she had just turned 21 and I was 36. We're now 26 and 42, respectively. Although I was interested in her, my thought process was basically "Why would she be interested in an old fart like me?" So, as it turned out, she was the one who had to make the first move.

    I was also concerned about how much I would (or wouldn't) have in common with someone as young as her. Well, for various reasons, she had accumulated a lot more life experiences than your average 20 year old (the age she was when I first met her) and it gave us more common ground and made the relationship work. Now, one of the things I love about her is that she keeps me in touch with my younger years and stops me from becoming the old fart I feared I was.

    Now, some of her 20-ish friends, while hot, don't appeal to me because they don't have the real-life experience and its like being around a child. So, for me the deciding factor is maturity, which can come at 16 or 60 or never.

    For whatever reason, young women seem to be attracted to me very strongly. Its certainly not my looks, I'm nothing special. I don't know if its a "father figure" syndrome. For some I think it is. I mostly think its that I project power and leadership. While it appeals to women of most ages, for some reason it appeals to younger ones more. So, it always amuses me (read: strokes my ego) that they like me. And, were I in the dating pool, I'd be happy to date a younger woman, if the maturity factor was there. I'm shallow enough to like having a pretty young thing with me. Or a pretty older thing. Or a fascinating average thing...if its the right person, looks are secondary.

    As to whether I would have dated a 45-60 year old woman at age 20, I think I did at about 25...honestly, I was too chicken to ever ask her age It was the secretary of a client of mine. We would talk on the phone and we always made each other laugh. So, sight unseen I asked her out one day and we ended up going out for several months. When we met I realized she was older than me (my guess would be early 40s) and didn't care because she was so much fun.

    That being said, as a 20 year old looks were always important and most of the women with whom I interacted were young so that's where I looked. Had I met an older woman I would have felt weird because of peer pressure and it may have prevented me from asking her out. I guess now I'll never know.

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