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    I think that guy IS a sucker for throwing away 40 grand on that dancer. She must've finally bought her house thanks to him The bouncer did not need to remind the guy that it's a fantasy 'cause it wouldn't be good for business. Also I wouldn't think this guy would dare show up in a blue collar, neighborhood bar for fear of getting mugged if he throws away exorbitant amounts of money in one night




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    Quote Originally Posted by Isis link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg22998#msg22998 date=1084996210
    bzzt.... wrong ! I work several days a week in local med contact neighborhood clubs and travel every few weeks to work in upscale clubs.
    I'll bet that gives you quite the edge in the upper-scale clubs over some of the other girls for the reasons I described in the other thread.

    I just find the higher contact clubs and more aggressive working environment has a tendency to build character and produce a much more interesting and personable dancer to hang out with. And although not the rule (i.e. lots of exceptions), higher contact dancers usually seem to have traveled a lot more. Most all the low-contact barbie doll models at the upperscales I've chatted with have maybe been three places their whole lives (hometown, school town, and now work town)... whereas the higher contact/mileage club gals can describe in photographic detail and even mention names of the staff found in places in Cabo, Italy, Jamaica, Budapest, dozens of states here in the US, Canada and whatnot.

    From this perspective, I add more value to someone that has interesting and compelling conversation... and people that have lots of worldly experience make for better companionship in my opinion. I also find the conversation is usually more "conversive" rather than rehearsed to be more classy/acceptable. The women in the higher contact clubs have no qualms laughing it up about the places they've been with friends and thrown out of. whereas the upperscale women put an emphasis on conduct and trying to be sophisticated... and not as open to let loose. Their clientele wants perfection and courtesans.

    Arg.....that is exactly the kinda thing I'm talking about guys- it looks completely jealous, petty and bitter. And no differnt than saying all contact dancers are nasty ho's. It's B.S !
    You just hit on the exact recoil that causes the animosity on both sides of the fence... quite specifically.

    I deal with execs from Fortune-500's that are very much the executive club types from the east coast. The one and only time I offerred a group of five execs visiting to take them to the 'city and entertain in a stripclub, two of them would have nothing of it... because "local girls are all whores" and decided better than my judgement. The three that did go along spent the rest of the week explaining how pleasantly surprised they were and how it really adjusted their expectations for when they return back home. The night was spent in tears of laughter and having a wonderful time. These women just have so much "life" behind them, that whatever the guys threw out there, they had real live personal experiences with, funny stories, tongue in cheek risque humor about, and referenceable details to relate as being real rather than made up fiction.. versus the "smile and agree" or topic changes that occur with less experienced people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isis link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23002#msg23002 date=1085000311
    No Punk MED. contact- which differs from low contact in many ways As u very well know.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Isis link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23002#msg23002 date=1085000311
    so now u know where I'm coming from huh? Please elaborate just to be sure....
    oh it's different, but like i said low contact. you may not consider it low contact, but i do. it'll will be a cold day before i let a stripper automatically dictate to me what is or isn't a good club. i can find out for myself. nor do i allow dancers to dictate what i should consider to be an acceptable level of mileage. unless...you have a very loose definition of med contact . of course, dancers are welcome to their own limits. however, i'm not going to pay for them. suckers pay for things they don't want. in the end, a stripper's best interests isn't always in my best interests. only a sucker in a sc wouldn't bother to question the motives of a complete stranger.

    Quote Originally Posted by Isis link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23002#msg23002 date=1085000311
    I asked u politely once already not to call me sweetie...... and continueing to do so is blatantly disrespectful or in simpler terms being a jerk and uncalled for
    sure, if stop making allegations without proof. i found that blatantly disrespectful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Isis link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23002#msg23002 date=1085000311
    I showed your contridiction in reply 14- it's the 2nd to last quote.
    contradiction? are you high? oh..i get it. i made fun of a guy who got suckered by some stripper in an upscale club and you think that i have something against upscale clubs. sorry to disappoint you, but i make fun of a lot of guys on this board who get suckered by strippers. in fact, i don't even have to know the type of club. i only need to know the pertinent details of how some guy in a moment of stupidity handed over his money to some flakey stripper. i made fun of the guy because he is a sucker and i noticed you didn't exactly disagree with that point, right? . it had nothing to do with the type of club.

    what? you don't think i would make fun of a guy in a neighborhood sc who allows himself to be suckered by a stripper? does that seem logical to you? perhaps you're confusing me with some other poster. unlike yourself, i really don't have a bias against any type of club unless it can't meet my demands. the type of club alone is irrelavant to me. for you, it may be a simplistic matter of "income envy" or "different strokes". however, ask yourself one question. why would any customer pay for something he's doesn't want? why would any customer be happy with a level of poor service from a stripper? i'll tell you why. that's not a customer. that's a sucker. that's the customer in the article. that's a sucker in a sc and there are plenty of them in all types of clubs. for various reasons, some of the guys here are just saying that they find upscale clubs lacking in certain areas of customer service. if you want to criticize them for that, fine. however, i still find it strange you're criticizing them when you're exhibiting the exact same behavior. now, that's what i call a contradiction.
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    Hey, I have been to Delilahs in Philly! To this day, I still want to know what makes this place so upscale?? My friend and I went in with jeans and sneakers, nothing special. The dancers all came up to us for dances just like anyone else. In fact, the other customers basically looked like we did. It reminded me of the Lace chains here in NJ. Bottom line is, I see no difference between one of these so called upscale clubs and a neighborhood bar. The same shit goes on in both places. Maybe I have been around too long going to these places and a topless woman dancing is a topless woman dancing, whether it is upscale or not. Also, bottom line, so called upscale or neighborhood bar, it is still just women taking their clothes off to make money. That night in Delilahs, I probably spent, about one third of the amount I normally spend in my normal neighborhood bar. So upscale isn't what it is all cracked up to be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23008#msg23008 date=1085009248
    Isis sweetie, don't take our smart aleck little witticisms over here so seriously, and don't go running away because we just can't see eye to eye on this.
    Quote Originally Posted by FBR link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23009#msg23009 date=1085010328
    Doc bad boy. You used the "S" word :o LOL
    Oopsie, my bad. I hadn't read this little exchange:

    Quote Originally Posted by Isis link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg22998#msg22998 date=1084996210
    . Also please don't call me sweetie- it's very condensending
    My apoligies Isis.

    Yeah, I'll have to inform my politically incorrect 73 year old mom (who says "sweetie" to most anyone) and got me saying it, to cut it out. Someone might take offense to her innocently intended remark.

    Okay, back to topic.
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    I've worked in both. My stage show is almost the same, and my dances are exactly the same. The differences are small, and thus unimportant to some guys.

    In a neighborhood bar, you pay for the dance. In an upscale club, you tack on a surcharge for the decorations (and perhaps more privacy).

    Upscale clubs tend to have the best-looking girls and a larger selection of good liquors. Of course, if your girls are just fine and you drink nothing but JD and Corona, then this means nothing.

    Upscale clubs do a better job of keeping the young idiots out. That's good, but they do so by having large numbers of bouncers and high door charges. Some people would rather deal with the occasional party of jackasses.

    The SC industry has something for everyone, but no club is a perfect fit for every customer.
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    Jay - thanks for ur last reply and yup ur right it was just a difference in def.

    Polecat-interesting comments about the conversation skills.... I have to say based on my experiences, I disagree. I find it to be the opposite- alot of the neighborhood club dancers I know have very little worldly experience and alot of the upscale club dancers I talk to travel quite a bit. I dunno, maybe it's a regional thing? I do agree w/ u though, that more life experience makes for a better overall entertainer

    Doc-as for the sweetie thing-it's all in the tone ... yours was much different and there4 not offensive, Punk clearly was aiming at condescending -- u were not, but thanks for the apology anyway. As they say, it's the thought that counts

    Punk- u are just 100% Jerk- I tried to be nice with u but I can see there is no point in being that way with such a clear cut A**HOLE so after I post this I am going to take the advice I recieved about blocking u .

    Money & Lilith- EXACTLY !!!!! that's why I don't get the whole "morons, not legit dances, can't get it up" insults

    And special thanks to Lilith for breaking it down a bit more, I was begining to run out of patience w/ this one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Isis link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23032#msg23032 date=1085074503
    Punk- u are just 100% Jerk- I tried to be nice with u but I can see there is no point in being that way with such a clear cut A**HOLE.
    well sweetie, since you're won't be able to read this reply. i'll post this for posterity's sake. you tried to be nice? give me a break. you tried to come in here and tell everyone that upscale clubs are better. some people disagreed with you and failed to nod their heads. you took umbrage to that postition and now you're going to pick up your ball and run to a place where the opinioned exchange of ideas is much less important than maintaing one big circle jerk of reassuring and validation. good riddance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Isis link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23032#msg23032 date=1085074503
    so after I post this I am going to take the advice I recieved about blocking u .
    well, that's some mighty good advice you recieved. i would do the same thing if i expected someone to nod their head on their own lesiure time and they refused to cooperate with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23035#msg23035 date=1085078959
    you tried to come in here and tell everyone that upscale clubs are better.
    Where did she say they were better ? I didn't see that at all. All I saw her do question and discuss the prevailing negative attitude and name calling.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Isis link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg22993#msg22993 date=1084986686
    Quote Originally Posted by SW2 link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg22981#msg22981 date=1084967471
    I'm with Fish on the "can't get it up" part. I talk to dancers who worked in upscale clubs. Their best regulars were typically professional guys 45-65 who never got it up with them. That's a MAJOR market niche.
    Arg.....that is exactly the kinda thing I'm talking about guys- it looks completely jealous, petty and bitter. And no differnt than saying all contact dancers are nasty ho's. It's B.S !

    If u believe that well then ur in need prof. help :o I mean seriously Sporty I thought u were more adapt at smelling SS- those favs of urs are just blowing smoke up ur ass and verbaly stroking ur dick. It's the equivilant of your dick is bigger than theirs

    Saying that upscale customers can't get it up is sooooooo f-ing stupid and such a load of bull-crap it doesn't even deserve any more comment.
    Isis, the crude F/S language in your rejoinder belies your upscale background.

    Half of all guys over 35 have some kind of erectile dysfunction. I can't get it up for fake boobs, so maybe I'm heading there :o

    I see dancers crossing over from upscale air and light one-way contact to mid-scale full contact. We talk about the differences in clientele before I even ask for a dance. They need to understand that most of their new customers walk in hard and want to match up/lock on right away.

    Upscale airdance clubs have a significant market niche because older age, wealth, and erectile dysfunction tend to cluster in the demographic sense.


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    I fail to see what erectile dysfunction has to do with club preference. I think it has more to do with wealth then anything else. Wealthy people tend to prefer lush surroundings and better quality products and services. And as Lilith already pointed out upscale clubs tend to have the best-looking dancers and a larger selection of good liquors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLovesJazz link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23036#msg23036 date=1085086034
    Where did she say they were better ? I didn't see that at all. All I saw her do question and discuss the prevailing negative attitude and name calling.
    oh, you missed that part,huh. ask and you shall recieve:

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg22995#msg22995 date=1084993766
    OTOH, it seems to me that you think upscale clubs are the greatest thing since sliced bread and offers a superior level of entertainment. i disagree.
    Quote Originally Posted by Isis link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg22998#msg22998 date=1084996210
    well we certianly disagree on that ! Ofcourse we're talking about opinions there which are subjective, so it's all good
    of course, she's entilted to her opinion. however, she's speaking strictly from a dancer's perspective. which doesn't necessarily apply to customers nor is it always in the best interests of the customer. for example, if a customer is primarily interested in sc with amenities like a cigar bar, wine cellar and a full kitchen. additionally, if that customer isn't interested in level of contact. odds are he will frequent a type of sc that serves his needs. OTOH, if a customer isn't primarily interested in a sc with the previously mentioned amenities but is primarily interested in contact. odds are he will probably go to a club that serves his needs. the type of club is irrelavant. ultimately, it really isn't a question of which type of club is superior (unlike isis), it's more a question of which sc serves his needs best.

    unfortunately, like a lot of strippers. it wouldn't be the first time i've seen a dancer totally disconnected from this plane of reality in certain instances. the idea that a customer would be interested or pay for entertainment because she considers it to be superior despite the fact that it may not hold any intrinsic value for the customer is patently ridiculous. the fact that she criticized some posters for not agreeing with her is the height of absurdity. the fact that she criticized some posters for for the exact same behavior that she displayed.......well, i know that strippers are flaky, but when you add retarded to the mix.....
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    Isis, I noticed that you started a parallel thread to this one on the pink site...in the Ladies Only section no less. Why did you do that and why in the Ladies Only instead of the open forums?

    Im sure MrP doesnt care if you block him or not but I guess I dont understand why you would do so. Did he send you nasty PM's or something? I cant believe you would block him simply for disagreeing with your opinion Ive posted recently on the pink site stating my opinion concerning some world event topics and got totally trashed by several dancers LOL Oh well.

    Ive enjoyed reading your posts before even if I disagreed with them sometimes but it seems now you are taking the attitude "Im gonna take my ball and go home" if anyone disagrees with you. Im disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilith link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23031#msg23031 date=1085072206

    The SC industry has something for everyone, but no club is a perfect fit for every customer.
    Lil is right on as usual. Some guys are happy to sip a cold one and check out the T&A visually with maybe some low contact dances. Others arent content unless they are getting maximum mileage in VIP. To each his own and as long as the customers and dancers are in agreement with the end result its a perfect fit.

    Im not a high mileage guy in the club as a rule. Id rather plant the seeds for out of club activities and pursue that avenue vigorously. Ive spent a lot of money at the club as witnessed by the flock of strippers who hang out with me when I stop by. Table time is fun, but so is a rendezvous at a motel with a hot stripper.

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    I used to go to an upscale club a little after noon. $5 cover at the door, free buffet inside. Broiled sirloin tips, baked talapia fish, roasted potatoes, asparagus, salad, you name it. I'd have a $20 meal there whenever I was in the area. CNN, nude dancers, ESPN. Never got a dance, but I LOVED that place. Then one day they ended the buffet, and I kissed the place off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg22995#msg22995 date=1084993766
    OTOH, it seems to me that you think upscale clubs are the greatest thing since sliced bread and offers a superior level of entertainment. i disagree.
    Quote Originally Posted by Isis link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg22998#msg22998 date=1084996210
    well we certianly disagree on that ! Ofcourse we're talking about opinions there which are subjective, so it's all good
    I can't speak for the lady, but it looks to me like she disagreed that she thought they were "greatest thing since sliced bread".

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg22995#msg22995 date=1084993766
    the idea that a customer would be interested or pay for entertainment because she considers it to be superior despite the fact that it may not hold any intrinsic value for the customer is patently ridiculous.
    Again I didn't see her saying that either. Where did she said people should go to clubs that didn't serve their needs? It seems to me that she was questioning why people felt the need to insult others just because they enjoy a different club environment.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23047#msg23047 date=1085095497
    the fact that she criticized some posters for not agreeing with her is the height of absurdity. the fact that she criticized some posters for for the exact same behavior that she displayed.......well, i know that strippers are flaky, but when you add retarded to the mix.....
    And yet again I didn't read it that way. What I read was her inquiring about comments such as moron, impotent and the like.

    It appears to me that you are trying to twist her words.

    And is it really necessary to call the lady retarded just for having a different point of view than you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLovesJazz link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23053#msg23053 date=1085101603
    I can't speak for the lady, but it looks to me like she disagreed that she thought they were "greatest thing since sliced bread".
    you "can't speak for the lady"? isn't that sort of like saying, "it's not about the money"? i mean, you didn't type this post for your health, right? in any case, that's mighty swell of you, JLJ. you're such a "nice guy", but there's no need to be modest. i'm sure you'll do a fine job as her apologist in her absence. in any case, she could have very well disagreed with my whole statement. unfortunately, we'll never know since she can't really be bothered to be here.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimLovesJazz link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23053#msg23053 date=1085101603
    It seems to me that she was questioning why people felt the need to insult others just because they enjoy a different club environment.
    you're kidding, right? you know, it's too bad she didn't follow her own advice. especially about need to insult others.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimLovesJazz link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23053#msg23053 date=1085101603
    And is it really necessary to call the lady retarded just for having a different point of view than you?
    Quote Originally Posted by Isis link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23032#msg23032 date=1085074503
    Punk- u are just 100% Jerk- I tried to be nice with u but I can see there is no point in being that way with such a clear cut A**HOLE
    she's a lady? you know, judging from her response. i would have thought that she was a waitress in a bowling alley or a sailor on liberty. geez jim, you might want to see a doctor about those saddle sores. you've been riding that white horse a little too long. sorry, but i don't see any reason to cut her any slack, but feel free to give her all the sympathy you wish. since she's not here, i'm pretty sure she won't object. so, knock yourself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLovesJazz link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23042#msg23042 date=1085087774
    upscale clubs tend to have the best-looking dancers and a larger selection of good liquors.
    I guess this is with the key words being "tend to". Perception of best looking or best of anything lies in the opinion of the customer.
    Apparently I just found a good club that happens to be a neighborhood bar filled with beautiful women and possessing an endless selection of good liquors. I'm a vodka guy and have my choice of the Belves and Grey Gooses on down to the Absoluts.
    I don't necessarily need to feel as though I am walking onto the set of a Broadway blockbuster when I hit the SC.

    So, once again, everyone has an opinion. I happen to disagree with your quote if it was meant as a representation of a whole.





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    sure. additionally, the operative word here is also "customer". you know, the person who's actually dropping money in the club. i don't know about you, but when i enter a sc the money is in my pocket. so, if i'm not interested in wine cellars and prawns. the last thing i want to hear is some flakey stripper [who isn't dropping a dime, BTW] pontificating about the superiority of her favorite type of club. it might be a fine opinion for another dancer, but that it does me no good as a customer. so, unless she's dropping money just like the other customers or she can tell me which dancer gives the best BBBJ. i'm not going to automatically give her opinion the same weight as a another customer with respect to the quality of the offerings of that club, the quality of the dancers, how much a customer should spend, etc.
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    While I agree with Lil and Isis about "different clubs for different folks", I just wanted to jump in here with something that I haven't seen mentioned...

    Most of us, dancers or junkies, realize that part of the SC experience being sold is fantasy. While in neighborhood clubs that may be a lower portion of the experience (my hometown club, for example, where everyone knows everyone and it is common for customers and dancers to run into each other and hang out at after-hours parties), I think that the "fantasy" part is a much higher ratio of the experience at an upscale club.

    My op on why customers bother going to an upscale club is bc for some of them, it adds to the fantasy. They're business men, have a wife and kids at home, with Bud in the fridge and a grill in the backyard. To go to a club with a beautiful balcony and huge chandeliers and drop-dead gorgeous women and high-end liquors and possibly better-than-decent food..... to be treated like "someone special" by valets and doormen and to be guided to their seats and to actually have the "honor" of said beautiful women carrying on conversation and writhing on their laps..... what a treat that must be!! what an escape!!

    on the other hand, most true junkies (and the customers I prefer) are the ones like you gents here, who go to whatever club the prefer bc they are known and treated well and not taken (too much) advantage of and can have a laid-back good time with women that you actually like (hopefully physically and personality-wise). Your type of customer may not frequent the upscale clubs very often, or even see the reason to do so, bc you are not taken in by the fantasy. You go to a sc for what you do receive, not so you can concoct a nice little ego-boosting fantasy that you're someone you're not.

    And then of course there are the men who think that they'll get a BJ for $40K at the upscale club, not knowing that they could prolly get a BJ for $100 at the seedy place down the street. OR not wanting to "lower" themselves to that, anyway.

    Just my two cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23049#msg23049 date=1085099100
    Isis, I noticed that you started a parallel thread to this one on the pink site...in the Ladies Only section no less. Why did you do that and why in the Ladies Only instead of the open forums?
    I wanted to get some female opinions w/o having them get bashed for whatever they said. Isn't that what Ladies Only is for ?
    Quote Originally Posted by FBR link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23049#msg23049 date=1085099100
    Im sure MrP doesnt care if you block him or not but I guess I dont understand why you would do so. Did he send you nasty PM's or something? I cant believe you would block him simply for disagreeing with your opinion
    He didn't just disagree, he was intentionaly being rude ... that's why I blocked him. I'm not the type to put up w/ abuse, no matter what form it comes in.
    Quote Originally Posted by FBR link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23049#msg23049 date=1085099100
    it seems now you are taking the attitude "Im gonna take my ball and go home" if anyone disagrees with you. Im disappointed.
    I'm not running away, I just don't know how many different ways I can explain how or why I think it's childish 2 go around saying that others are morons or that they can't get it up just b/c they like something different from most of ya'll here. It's like saying anyone who prefers strawberry ice cream to chocolate is an idiot. Sounds pretty dumb now doesn't it?
    Quote Originally Posted by JimLovesJazz link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23053#msg23053 date=1085101603
    I can't speak for the lady, but it looks to me like she disagreed that she thought they were "greatest thing since sliced bread".
    Jim u are absolutely correct
    Quote Originally Posted by JimLovesJazz link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23053#msg23053 date=1085101603
    It seems to me that she was questioning why people felt the need to insult others just because they enjoy a different club environment.
    Right again!
    Quote Originally Posted by JimLovesJazz link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23036#msg23036 date=1085086034
    Where did she say they were better ? I didn't see that at all. All I saw her do question and discuss the prevailing negative attitude and name calling.
    Damn ur on a roll there Jim

    I am not saying that one is better than the other, they're just different in certain ways.

    I'm also not trying to tell anyone that should be going to upscale clubs instead or anything even close........ just that I think it's wrong to be slinging insults at a whole group of people just b/c they like something that most scj's don't.

    They don't like it when air dancers slam contact dancers and I just don't see that it's any different from them slamming upscale clubs ... my only goal-if u can call it that, was to get them to see it's the same thing. It's really just as simple as that



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    Quote Originally Posted by IAKali link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23078#msg23078 date=1085153718
    While I agree with Lil and Isis about "different clubs for different folks", I just wanted to jump in here with something that I haven't seen mentioned...

    Most of us, dancers or junkies, realize that part of the SC experience being sold is fantasy. While in neighborhood clubs that may be a lower portion of the experience (my hometown club, for example, where everyone knows everyone and it is common for customers and dancers to run into each other and hang out at after-hours parties), I think that the "fantasy" part is a much higher ratio of the experience at an upscale club.

    My op on why customers bother going to an upscale club is bc for some of them, it adds to the fantasy. They're business men, have a wife and kids at home, with Bud in the fridge and a grill in the backyard. To go to a club with a beautiful balcony and huge chandeliers and drop-dead gorgeous women and high-end liquors and possibly better-than-decent food..... to be treated like "someone special" by valets and doormen and to be guided to their seats and to actually have the "honor" of said beautiful women carrying on conversation and writhing on their laps..... what a treat that must be!! what an escape!!

    on the other hand, most true junkies (and the customers I prefer) are the ones like you gents here, who go to whatever club the prefer bc they are known and treated well and not taken (too much) advantage of and can have a laid-back good time with women that you actually like (hopefully physically and personality-wise). Your type of customer may not frequent the upscale clubs very often, or even see the reason to do so, bc you are not taken in by the fantasy. You go to a sc for what you do receive, not so you can concoct a nice little ego-boosting fantasy that you're someone you're not.

    And then of course there are the men who think that they'll get a BJ for $40K at the upscale club, not knowing that they could prolly get a BJ for $100 at the seedy place down the street. OR not wanting to "lower" themselves to that, anyway.

    Just my two cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moneywise link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23071#msg23071 date=1085146906

    I guess this is with the key words being "tend to". Perception of best looking or best of anything lies in the opinion of the customer.
    That is why I worded that one carefully, purposefully allowing for glaring exceptions and the inclinations of the customers. If your own Luscious Lolita at the neighborhood bar is a sweet-cheeked girl next door who, in a subtle play of light and shadow, transforms into an ethereal beauty when she smiles then clearly the big-racked blond bombshell who used to be an extra on Baywatch and works at the local upscale club is not going to appeal. The grass is not always greener, neh?

    Apparently I just found a good club that happens to be a neighborhood bar filled with beautiful women and possessing an endless selection of good liquors.
    Again, this was the reason behind the phrase "tend to". I'm partial to vodka myself, and usually have to take my disappointments when I want Ketel One. However, my first club (a sailor dive) stocks this fairly high-end vodka; largely because of the proximity and occasional patronage by command staff of visiting ships and the local officers.

    Exceptions abound. Even when the club fits true to pattern, and doesn't stock Grand Marnier or Johnny Walker Gold, the customer may jolly well not give a damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk link=board=9;threadid=1476;start=msg23076#msg23076 date=1085150764
    sure. additionally, the operative word here is also "customer". you know, the person who's actually dropping money in the club.
    You already know this, but we spend money as well. One of the perks of my current club is that it has a restaurant. Instead of brown-bagging it (or, more likely given my absent-mindedness, forgetting my lunch altogether) now I can simply order the grouper bites and then go back to work.

    I appreciate this job perk, though I do agree that few customers frequent this club merely for the restaurant. Hooter's being what it is in this town, the few that we do get come in because the hot wings are better and the women wear less.
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    I like having a full kitchen in a club too. Like Lilith I eat at work often. I also think the full menu concept is a way to keep guys in the club longer, which ='s spending more. Same goes for shoe shine people, blackjack tables. It works too

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