Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: ATF's or Regulars

  1. #1
    Newbie Lo Bok's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    14
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default ATF's or Regulars

    My first post -YAY!
    It seems that we may be confusing ATF's with Regulars- and other possible relationships.
    An ATF should be what it says- All Time Favorite.
    A Regular relationship indicates frequent encounters in the Club.
    Once you begin meeting outside the Club, we need another name- like FOTC, for Friend Outside The Club.
    For the next step, we need to distinguish between the Stripper Friend Sex (SFS), which does not involve $$-but can involve gifts,
    and the Paid Escort Sex (PES), which is no longer a Stripper relationship, but just prostitution.
    I suppose we could also have a category for those VIP situations in the Club where some actual sex occurs, like In Club Sex Partner (ICSP).

    I still remember my ATF with love and affection.
    I remember a dozen FOTC's with fondness.
    I've had about 30 Regular relationships, which lasted between 2 months and 2 years.
    I admit that I still have trouble with the Customer/Friend relationship, but reading these threads makes me realize more than ever that you are actually a customer if you pay for anything outside the Club.
    Last edited by Lo Bok; 10-13-2004 at 09:54 AM.

  2. #2
    God/dess FBR's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2003
    Posts
    8,351
    Thanks
    85
    Thanked 342 Times in 244 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Mellow

    Default Re: ATF's or Regulars

    There are all the above plus varying degrees in between. I do agreee that the ATF term is thrown around when often the guy is just talking about a regular he really likes.

    My ATF will always be my Indy girl from several years ago. Our relationship emcompassed most of the catagories noted by Lo Bak along with a healthy (or unhealthy depending on how you look at it) dose of drama very similar to RL. I think Im saner now that its over but in the wee hours when I think back I still get a rush. As much as I "love" Miss D, theres no comparison. For those who remember Miss B, there was potential in that situation approaching the Indy ATF but it died on the vine due to Boatdude. I keep hoping she'll come back someday just so I can see if the vibes are still there.

    FBR
    Once again I have embraced my addiction and have put off the moral dilemma to another day.

  3. #3
    God/dess mr_punk's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Arrr! gimme no trouble, girl! Cap'n Trumpet's the name. Now, blow it.
    Posts
    2,863
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts

    Default Re: ATF's or Regulars

    that's a bit too complicated for my tastes. i have a problem with using the word "friend" to describe what is in most cases, a simple commerical transaction.
    Is it not a problem that the woman have a smaller brain than a man? The government scientist Dr. Yamuka has proved it is size of squirrel. - Borat

    Alan Marciano
    : Oh, man...(to himself) Why did I get mixed up with that bitch?
    Lt. Vincent Hanna: Cause she's got a great ass and you got your head all the way up it! - from the movie "Heat".

  4. #4
    God/dess
    Joined
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Renaissance City
    Posts
    3,343
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: ATF's or Regulars

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk
    that's a bit too complicated for my tastes. i have a problem with using the word "friend" to describe what is in most cases, a simple commerical transaction.
    I think the concept of "fun friend" or "friend with benefits" is pretty much where relationships are headed in clubs and in the real world. Friends are people who use each other but don't feel used.

  5. #5
    Newbie Lo Bok's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    14
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: ATF's or Regulars

    It doesn't take long to determine if a Stripper is after your $$ or actually would like someone to talk to that isn't after her sex. We are all aware that most will tell you anything you want to hear to get more out of your pocketbook.
    But, over a 30 year period, I have made some great Stripper friends that took me to dinner, gave me presents, and got to the point that I didn't have to pay for their association.
    To me, that is the greatest satisfaction regarding this business- to get acquainted with young, good looking women, that are willing to spend some time with an old guy like me without asking for payment, and who seem to appreciate someone who listens to their problems without being judgemental. I can't deny that they usually are rewarded for their friendship, but it isn't like "I'll spend two hours with you for $X.XX".
    I also enjoy Club occasions where I know that I am paying so much to get so much, but I much prefer those closer relationships where $ is not the primary issue. And, with experience, it is not difficult to identify the difference quite quickly.
    To qualify as an ATF, a Stripper must give as much as she takes.

  6. #6
    God/dess mr_punk's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Arrr! gimme no trouble, girl! Cap'n Trumpet's the name. Now, blow it.
    Posts
    2,863
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts

    Re: ATF's or Regulars

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2
    I think the concept of "fun friend" or "friend with benefits" is pretty much where relationships are headed in clubs and in the real world.
    i disagree. first of all, i'm reluctant to even consider a sc based relationship analogous to a civilian relationship. don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that it can't happen. however, if someone really wanted that type of relationship can't that person do better than go looking for one in a stripclub? futhermore, how often does it actually happen? ultimately, the exchange of money for service is the fuel that drives the relationship in most cases in a sc. the lube isn't on your finger, but in your pocket. which is fine because that is the way it is supposed to be in a sc.

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2
    Friends are people who use each other but don't feel used.
    well, that type of arrangement is fine too, as long as both parties are aware of exactly what going on. however, that's a bit difficult in a sc for most PLs. which is why so many of them crash and burn when it comes to strippers. too many PLs confuse sc courtesy with genuine interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lo Bok
    But, over a 30 year period, I have made some great Stripper friends that took me to dinner, gave me presents, and got to the point that I didn't have to pay for their association.
    that's amazing..not the friends part, but the 30 years of listening to flaky strippers part and without your brains being turned into mush. c'mon, you don't really listen to them, do you? so, what's your secret...earplugs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lo Bok
    To me, that is the greatest satisfaction regarding this business- to get acquainted with young, good looking women, that are willing to spend some time with an old guy like me without asking for payment, and who seem to appreciate someone who listens to their problems without being judgemental. I can't deny that they usually are rewarded for their friendship, but it isn't like "I'll spend two hours with you for $X.XX".
    sounds good to me. in fact, you sound like a proper PDOM (professional dirty old man). something we should all strive to be.
    Is it not a problem that the woman have a smaller brain than a man? The government scientist Dr. Yamuka has proved it is size of squirrel. - Borat

    Alan Marciano
    : Oh, man...(to himself) Why did I get mixed up with that bitch?
    Lt. Vincent Hanna: Cause she's got a great ass and you got your head all the way up it! - from the movie "Heat".

  7. #7
    Newbie Lo Bok's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    14
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: ATF's or Regulars

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk
    sounds good to me. in fact, you sound like a proper PDOM (professional dirty old man). something we should all strive to be.
    Guilty and proud of it- and I do wear a hearing aide that I can turn down when necessary.

  8. #8
    Featured Member sadbuttrue's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Mass
    Posts
    1,695
    Thanks
    184
    Thanked 49 Times in 35 Posts

    Default Re: ATF's or Regulars

    Yeah, I finally graduated to calling the one I spent so much time with and money on, "the ATF". There really is no other and I don't think that will change. Others will also come and go and I like the current fave, but I was intimately involved with most every problem the ATF had. Due to the way I had to end it, I can't trust a lot of the things that happened that could have been counted as very good friend experiences. But with any non-dancer they could have. She still permeates my thinking.

    All new experiences with dancers and any limits I have set were due to the ATF. So I guess it's too bad for all dancers that come afterwards in terms of any real feelings or chances to make "other" money. I still treat any new ones well. I talk less about the ATF when I am around other dancers now, where before I was always spouting stories about her. I actually hate having to set the limits, because I don't like having to care less about whatever one I am with. But the ATF experience killed a lot of feeling inside and I don't want to go through that again.

    >>>Sad<<<

  9. #9
    Moderator yoda57us's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2002
    Location
    at the Y
    Posts
    10,035
    Thanks
    2,878
    Thanked 5,834 Times in 2,332 Posts
    My Mood
    Goofy

    Default Re: ATF's or Regulars

    My ATF is retired but still my ATF. However, she wasn't my first ATF. I firmly beleive that you can only have one current ATF but there can certainly be other women that have held and relinquished the title. Those of us who subscribe to the lures of ATFdom all seem to be of the same thinking that qualifying for ATF status requires a dancer/customer relationship that goes beyond a simple exchange of cash for dances.

    Like Sad, I had my eyes opened by my first ATF. Things that were thought to be true simply were not and lies were told that really didn't need to be told....anyway, Had my second and current ATF not come along when she did and restored my faith in womankind, I may have given up on ever trusting a woman in a g-string again. Thankfuly I didn't. Then again, maybe I'm just way to trusting to be hanging out in strip clubs....
    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    yoda, I want you so bad it aches in the swimsuit area.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Sophia_Starina is a sensible stripper...Naked all the way.....
    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    Double team! 2 latinas with big tits!!

  10. #10
    Featured Member sadbuttrue's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Mass
    Posts
    1,695
    Thanks
    184
    Thanked 49 Times in 35 Posts

    Default Re: ATF's or Regulars

    P.S. the most recent experience with her about three months ago showed me that I was still capable of being in love with her, but I still managed to keep from falling deep into the trap again. Judging from not receiving any phone call from her except for a few days after that I am justified in how I handled things. But I had to see her at least once, post-accident, which I mentioned elsewhere on SCJ.

    You gotta believe I was glad to see her, though, alive and quite well, considering. But it does suck wanting to scoop her up and take care of her in the new situation and knowing that my life would start to go down the tubes again.

    >>>Sad<<<

  11. #11
    Moderator yoda57us's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2002
    Location
    at the Y
    Posts
    10,035
    Thanks
    2,878
    Thanked 5,834 Times in 2,332 Posts
    My Mood
    Goofy

    Default Re: ATF's or Regulars

    When my first ATF returned to work after a 13 month absence and no contact I was releived to see her and happy that she was doing well-she had left over, among other things, some health issues. However, I felt absolutely no desire to see things return to their previous state of drama and my current favs all figured out fairly quickly that they were not going to lose any dances to her. As they say, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice....
    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    yoda, I want you so bad it aches in the swimsuit area.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Sophia_Starina is a sensible stripper...Naked all the way.....
    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    Double team! 2 latinas with big tits!!

Similar Threads

  1. Regulars.... and other peoples regulars.
    By dtxgirl in forum Stripping (was Stripping General)
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 06-15-2008, 08:53 PM
  2. 1 ATF or multiple ATF?
    By jt777 in forum Junkie Club Chat
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 12-14-2007, 03:05 PM
  3. Percentage of regulars vs non-regulars
    By Bubby in forum Customer Conversation
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 05-27-2007, 04:33 PM
  4. Does your ATF know it?
    By sallylou in forum Dancer's Discussion
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 07-22-2005, 05:34 PM
  5. Regulars annoying/pissing off other Regulars
    By Fan in forum General Board
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 06-16-2003, 07:58 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •