Just heard on the news that Pit Bulls have now be banned in our province, Ontario. Toronto has had a rash of attacks lately.
Not sure if it is the answer, there must be alternatives.



Just heard on the news that Pit Bulls have now be banned in our province, Ontario. Toronto has had a rash of attacks lately.
Not sure if it is the answer, there must be alternatives.
Opinions are one thing that makes us all individuals.
Banning the dogs is easier than teaching their owners to be responsible and not train their dogs to be aggressive killers.
Most pit bull owners that I've met are as nasty and aggressive as the way they treat their dogs.
The only pit bull I wasn't afraid of was raised in a loving home.
"She has written so well, and marvellously well, that I was completely ashamed of myself as a writer...But this girl, who is to my knowledge very unpleasant and we might even say a high-grade bitch, can write rings around all of us who consider ourselves as writers"
Ernest Hemingway on writer, aviation pioneer and horse trainer Beryl Markham
I did a search on this on the internet and found this quote in an article, "Officials in Kitchener, Ont., and Winnipeg have reported a dramatic reduction in dog attacks after they banned pit bulls."
if this is true, then I guess the ban is a good thing. It kind of sucks for people that have good-natured pit bulls and perpetuates the negative image of the dog, but it's really a problem, then I guess they have to try something to fix it!




I have two pits and a tiny 3 lb chihuahua. The most aggressive out of the three is the chihuahua. All of my dogs are rescued. I grew up in a household in which my family rescued Mastiffs and pits. After years and years of being around rescued dogs I've only come across two dogs that could not be placed because they were just to dangerous, one of them had it's jaw broken more than once. I've come to the conclusion after retraining these "untrainable dogs" (which took months and months) that the dogs are not to blame but the people who train or lack of training, the dogs a certain way are to blame. If you train your dog to aggressively charge then you really have no business having a dog. But for some reason I guess people find it more practical to "outlaw" a breed of dog than rather deal with the owners of these dogs.
I may have many faults, but being wrong ain't one of them.
I dont think it's fair that they ban them cause all pits are not bad.
They should have passed a law that they would have to wear a muzzle
that would prevent them from biteing.
A pit can be a very good companion and very friendly towards others
if treated right i have never had a problem with any of my boys except
for them tearing up my kicks.
The only Bush i like is between your legs.





This is breedist b*llsh*t!!!!!
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This government is taking the easy way out, not that that is much of a surprise to me. They did have to do something, seeing as to many dog owners weren't taking responsibility for their dogs. They should have made a law where all dogs out in public had to be muzzled, and failure to do so would result in a large fine, going up each time this happened. Also all dogs in a city should be required to be on a leash. And if you had a dog that was running free and bite someone you would either get sued or thrown in jail. This solution will solve nothing as the government doesn't have the resources to go after dog breeders, and I really wonder if this will stand up in the courts anyway.
The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club.
Know I'm going to get flamed for this, but - a German Shepard, Doberman, or Rottweiler has a bite force of less than 800 psi; in contrast, a Pit Bull has a bite force in excess of 1,300 psi - damn near as much as a large Timber Wolf (1,500 psi). This, along with their unrivaled ability to absorb tremendous physical punishment and endure incredible physical pain without turning tail and running, is a very clear sign of just how relentlessly they were bred for maximum power and aggression over what must have been an exceedingly long period of time - 'cause you don't increase a basic physical characteristic like bite force by more than 50% over all other breeds in existence in a couple of hundred generations. The problem with "throttling" genetic selection and purposefully breeding to enhance the particular physical attributes described to such an extreme degree is that the brain goes along for the ride - and in the case of this breed, its gone too far. At this point, you can't trust any of them because they're inherently unstable - combine that with their single-minded focus once the "switch" has been thrown and their incredible physical strength - and IMHO, they're just too much to have living in residential neighborhoods... on par with wolves, etc.
"That's your answer Old Man? I guess you're a Hard Case too...."
- Luke
"Some men, you just can't reach...."
- Boss, re Luke
If there's one thing in my life these years have taught me,
it's that you can always see it coming, but you can never stop it.
-Cowboy Junkies
I won't flame you for it. I've read too many articles from people who have rots and have raised them well. Dogs that are known to be good dogs...pleasant dogs...and instincts kick in and maul someone's head. I have no problem with the ban.
"The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind."
-Humphrey Bogart
"Sir, if you were my husband, I would poison your drink."
-Lady Astor to Winston Churchill
"Madam, if you were my wife, I would drink it."
-His reply
"If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs."
-David Daye
IN MOST CASES its the people, not the dogs for god's sake!
You train a dog to fight, that is exactly what they are going to do?
Dog fighting is home to the scum of the earth as far as im concerned.
I realize that is the case "in most cases". However, it is well documented that Rot's have a greater propensity for have instinctual attack moments. Same with Chow's (which as I understand it are actually worse). If it is my child that is attacked, I promise you that I do not care how you raised the dog.
From http://amrottclub.org:
"Many families have purchased a Rottweiler for its protectiveness, only to discover that it brings with it a considerable moral and legal responsibility. Problems arise quickly; the dog may not be able to distinguish between a bear-hug greeting of a family member, or a cherished friend, and the hostile advances of an intruder, particularly if the greetings between parties includes loud shouts, laughter or screams. Dogs must be carefully schooled to accept your friends into your home but physical contact should be approached carefully until the dog realizes that you belong. Strangers must never come into your yard unannounced, the dog doesn't know the difference between your brother and a burglar. Although the Rottweiler does not usually bite without provocation, even being cornered and held by one of these dogs is a very unnerving experience for meter men, delivery persons or neighbors wandering into the yard while the owner is absent. People expected to be in contact with the dog while the owners are absent should be thoroughly familiar with the dog. Many families have purchased a Rottweiler for its protectiveness, only to discover that it brings with it a considerable moral and legal responsibility. Problems arise quickly; the dog may not be able to distinguish between a bear-hug greeting of a family member, or a cherished friend, and the hostile advances of an intruder, particularly if the greetings between parties includes loud shouts, laughter or screams. Dogs must be carefully schooled to accept your friends into your home but physical contact should be approached carefully until the dog realizes that you belong. Strangers must never come into your yard unannounced, the dog doesn't know the difference between your brother and a burglar. Although the Rottweiler does not usually bite without provocation, even being cornered and held by one of these dogs is a very unnerving experience for meter men, delivery persons or neighbors wandering into the yard while the owner is absent. People expected to be in contact with the dog while the owners are absent should be thoroughly familiar with the dog. "
Yeah...that sounds like a blast. No matter how good the dog is, if anyone is in your house, they have to be careful and not make sudden movements, be loud, or give you a hug. If you're a stranger and the owner is not around, God help you. This is WITH early obedience training.
Yeah...that's real safe.
"The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind."
-Humphrey Bogart
"Sir, if you were my husband, I would poison your drink."
-Lady Astor to Winston Churchill
"Madam, if you were my wife, I would drink it."
-His reply
"If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs."
-David Daye
I already don't care for a topic like this. But banning will keep happening to these dogs. I have my 2 pits pictures up in the gallery. I also have Shepherds. Pound for pound the strongest bite dog there is is the original Bull terrier, not pit bull. Pit Bull dog is generic. I have seen in the news a pretty lab mix said to be a pit, it bite a child, give me a break.
Anyway, problem......I know, i go look at pups and adult dogs.....in-breeding by freaks.
So this does lie in breeding, and it does START with people. The dogs areNOT set up to attack, i have seen many a good looking strong palying pit tuck tail and run.
Laws cost money, so ban them.
I know one thing, Florida has NO desire to ban these dogs, and that makes me feel good. What we have are many shelters who upon getting a pit will put it down. And i have a shelter near me that fights for these dogs.
I look through the newspaper, and see pit bull puppies for sale. I want to call every person up and ask what the FUCK are you doing! We have too many neglected, and not treated as pets, or grandma has one and lets the child hassle the shit out of the dog.
Problem again, people just are not educated enough to know the signs that say "i am tired, leave me alone." SO....it starts with a growl, the warning that is saying leave me alone, then a bite.
Very few people get head bitten or mauled by a pit. The children suffer with the most mauling, BUT that's Rotties too. And normally a person gets 1 pit and has to have another, with NO training for the person.
I can go on forever. I love these dogs, never had a pit i could not trust with ME. I know the behaviour. THey act NO different tha anyother large breed, they just have a very strong bite hold. It's training, no fault in the brain, unless the fucking inbreeding happens, as it does down here.
Ban the owners, not the breed. We all know we have a strong breed out there, respect it, and don't encourage it. I will fight for these dogs until i die, some end up with me, and i find a home sooner or later, or have the dog put down, it simply was not social animal....Duh, people need to get a pup from the pound, and start taking this pup to class, and let everyone pet it forever!
Maybe people need to start about teaching owners how to get a dog that matches up to their life style. Pits don't do well on a chain...Duh, and need people, they have terrier in them, the most full of energy dog you can get, a terrier!
Sorry rant, i think i'll go let my dog run the neighbour hood now after being chained up for 6 days..........shit.
Pamela EDIT: SP errors.
Aja... now take a Rott at its worst and multiply by three - 'cause that's effectively what you're looking at when a PB goes off. I can take a Shepard or a Rott - but not a PB.Originally Posted by MojoJojo
"That's your answer Old Man? I guess you're a Hard Case too...."
- Luke
"Some men, you just can't reach...."
- Boss, re Luke
If there's one thing in my life these years have taught me,
it's that you can always see it coming, but you can never stop it.
-Cowboy Junkies
With all due respect these dogs are safe. Don't let the dog run the yard unattended, don't chain the dog, don't leave the dog in your car with a window half down. This all boils down to pet ownership. A poodle is very easy to care for, and cute to most people, the little shits BITE!!!! Lol. No damage done.
Dogs need to be in a large kennel, or home, taken out ALOT, walked. This is a change of life style for a "would be pet owner." Most don't see this. That cute growling as a pup, better stop now, because it's going to be a problem in the future.
We have lots of hog dogs down here, (pits) they play well with others, and burn off energy.
Mine, are house dogs! Protectors, yes it's what i wanted. BUT, they still run mu fenced yard with me out there, and are obedience trained, i don't ever see a problem.
You can become alpha dog, people just need to learn how, and with respect. No hitting, or yelling etc. The states are dealing with a very powerful animal. Social.....and that's what hurts. They are frowned upon as monsters. Remember for years, "oh your doberman turns on it's owner shit?" Well welcome to the world of pit bulls now. Another time, another dog.
Pamela
Lol!!! Go Pam!!!
Pam - Good luck!
PS - Know what the difference is between people like Siegfried & Roy and people who own Pitt Bulls? People who handle Tigers don't discount the very real possibility of the animal just "going off" at any given moment - even though they've raised it from birth and its never shown any sign whatsoever that it might someday do so. LOL
"That's your answer Old Man? I guess you're a Hard Case too...."
- Luke
"Some men, you just can't reach...."
- Boss, re Luke
If there's one thing in my life these years have taught me,
it's that you can always see it coming, but you can never stop it.
-Cowboy Junkies
....and look how that worked out.
"The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind."
-Humphrey Bogart
"Sir, if you were my husband, I would poison your drink."
-Lady Astor to Winston Churchill
"Madam, if you were my wife, I would drink it."
-His reply
"If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs."
-David Daye


I have no problem with the breed of dog, but I definitely wouldn't want one around me or my family. The history of the pit bull is they were bred for fighting, that was their sole purpose a couple of hundred years ago. That is why they could snap at any moment, it is in their bloodlines, no matter if you brought the dog up from a pup. A couple of months ago in Toronto someone was caring for a friends 2 pitbulls and the dogs started attacking this person for no apparent reason, and before you say he must have done something to provoke the dogs, this person was the trainer of the dogs and the dogs were familiar with this person. It took the police 16 shots to put these 2 dogs down, that is how much strength they have. I have no problem with people owning them, but at least here in Ontario you better make sure when the dogs are out in the open that they are muzzled and on a leash, or you could be fined or end up doing jail time.
The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club.
I love dogs....My children learned how to walk by pulling the whiskers of our pit/boxer puppy til he stood up and walked with them, and he stayed by their side the entire way.
I never had to worry that he was going to attack them, and everyone knew not to fuck around outside my windows(we lived in the ghetto while we had this dog)
We also had a yellow lab that tried to attack my kids one day....the lab is a drug dog for the Ct state police now, and the pit/boxer mix..I don't know where he is because he jumped out of my car window after a cat and I couldn't catch him(I waited and looked for hours, went back to the spot for days...I miss the damn dog)
In fact I'm planning on getting either an American Pit Bull Terrier, an American Mastiff (Panja), or a Cane Corso Italiano for my next dog.





That is so sweet!!Originally Posted by Blade
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Because there ain't no tits on the radio
Ok we can't put dogs and tigers together. Dogs are a social breed! Tigers are solitary.
See education about animals is very very important.
As for luck, i have owned pits since age 17!!!!! Never a dog bite in my house, and i have had to work hard with some that have been abused, it's very very do-able. but....I had to be trained!
Pamela
Blade that's what my two are American Pit Bull Terriers!!! I had the ears cropped. THey are brothers! Love them. Love all breeds! Good luck in your search, and PLEASE put up a pic. of your pup when you get one!
Pamela





No offense to anyone who owns those dogs but, now i'm so terrified of those dogs....lol. Once I was outside & this guy(or should I say kid), who had a pitbull with a muzzle on scared the crap out of me. So his pitbull runs viciously towards me when he let the leash go & was growling & the dog was so strong that it almost knocked me down, hahaha. But yes, I do agree though....it's not the animals fault, it's the way the owner raises it. I guess bc of this guy's dog I will never look at pits as friendly animals again.And I LOVE dogs.




My new favorite show is the Dog Whisper on the National Geographic channel. Sorry somewhat off topic but there's always pits or mixed pits on there.
I may have many faults, but being wrong ain't one of them.
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Last edited by Lexi; 11-21-2019 at 07:28 PM.
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