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    Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't-whatever. A couple of girls from my job are also 'escort models. I couldn't tell you if there is always an exchange of sexual activity for money because I haven't escorted. HOWEVER, when overlooking files, I saw all these weird terms-GFE, PSE, BBBJ??? So I looked up the terms and there is a man who has a website dedicated to the extinction of prostitues and ruining all their secrets.:O I don't really care, I just thought after reading all these abreviations, how could u carry on a conversation with someone? I'm going to practice and u guys tell me what u think:
    Hello,
    My name is Pimpy. I am a young BBW looking for my ATF BFE sometime tonight BCD. I don't want PSE of BBBJ, DATY or CFS. Just some nice PV of us together by the candle light. I don't speak Russian, Asian, French or Greek, but I do speak a little bit of Spanish and Italian.:O If you're interested, please
    call me, BTW, YMMV. xoxoxoxxxx


    Terms used primarily within the escort service trade;

    AMP = Asian Massage Parlor

    Asian = Oral sex on the anus

    ASP = Adult Service Provider

    ASPD = Adult Service Provider Discussion

    ATF = All Time Favorite (referring to the Client or Provider)

    BBBJ = Bareback Blow Job (Oral sex without a condom)

    BBW = Big Beautiful Woman

    BCD = Behind Closed Doors (as in the old country song "When she gets ...")

    BFE = Boyfriend Experience (Guy takes care of her desires as well)

    CBJ = Covered Blow Job (Oral sex with a condom)

    CFS = Covered Full Service (Sex with a condom)

    Cowgirl = Girl on top

    DATY = Dining At The Y (Oral sex performed on the woman)

    French = Oral sex

    GFE = Girl Friend Experience (different variants of the definition but the basic definition includes: FS, BJ, DATY, not a clock watcher, could kiss - treats you like her Boy Friend)

    Greek = Anal Sex

    HJ = Hand Job (Masturbation by the provider - Well it could be by the client but why pay for that?)

    Incall = Meet the girl at her apartment or hotel room

    LE = Law Enforcement

    MP = Massage Parlor

    NQNS = Non Quitter Non Spitter (Provider term for guys who just never get there)

    Outcall = Girl comes to your home or hotel room

    PSE = Porn Star Experience (Opposite of GFE - professional attitude, clock watcher with perfect timing, but an incredibly good time. So good it would be like being in a porn movie and the business like attitude just wasn't a problem)

    PV = Private Viewing (Dancing, getting naked, some touching but not FS, CBJ or HJ)

    Russian = Breast Sex (as in penis between)

    YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary (Meaning each person may have an experience with an individual provider that is different than the person posting due to personalities and other intangible factors. Also has been used jokingly for "Your Money May Vanish" )
    Last edited by Pamela; 10-23-2004 at 08:17 AM. Reason: 800 number has been removed. Number is a popular phone sex company line. website taken down as well, please advertise in The Market PLace.

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    Default Re: Escorting Is Not Prostitution

    So, what's the point of this?

    If you contacted any "escort" with that little letter of yours, you'd get ignored.

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    Alot of these terms are not known by the majority of people looking for escorts. I would put a add in the paper and spell out all of my words. Really, PV may look like a mistake for TV. Spell out the words, of course the internet i see alot of popular terms, but posting a serious add, no i would not use these terms.

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    I don't think all the abbreviations would be too good in normal conversation of in print. Unless of course it was a specialty section of the classifies. For example, there is a paper where I live that runs uncensored ads. All your codes show up in there all the time!!



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    Pimpy, I am confussed...are you posting this as a joke. Like you are amused at all the strange abreviations used within the escort service industry or are you seriously considering using a letter of this nature??



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    While Pamela may be right that a lot of people involved in prostitution are not familiar with all these terms and abbreviations, the online prostitution (often called "hobby") community uses them extensively, and most PMBs (Prostitution Message Boards, quite similar in general format and operation to SW but devoted to escorts and their customers) contain a list of them somewhere so that every newbie does not have to have them explained individually.

    Also, one important accronym (DFK) is missing from the list, and one (NQNS) is incorrectly explained.

    -Ww
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    As the Truth eternally reveals itself,
    This very place is the Lotus Land of Purity,
    This very body is the Body of the Buddha."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissTaylor
    So, what's the point of this?

    If you contacted any "escort" with that little letter of yours, you'd get ignored.
    Why would I CONTACT AN ESCORT?! This was a joke-sorry you didn't "get it>"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamela
    Really, PV may look like a mistake for TV. Spell out the words, of course the internet i see alot of popular terms, but posting a serious add, no i would not use these terms.
    I definetly agree with u Pamela. What's up with all the abreviations? I mean I guess I understand, it's a way of being an undercover prostitute or whatever, but yeah, I feel the same way. Say something that MEANS something, these little abreviations (DATY-Dining at the Y??) don't say much to a person who has never had an escort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpy718
    . Say something that MEANS something, these little abreviations (DATY-Dining at the Y??) don't say much to a person who has never had an escort.
    Online, you could probably spell things out. But if you ran an ad in print that said "I'll blow you and ream your anus with my tongue, but you can't fuck my tits or screw me without a condom" either you or the paper could face a pornography charge. I think that's what all the abbreviations are about.

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    I don't really understand what's funny about this thread, or what it was entitled what it is. But, whatever.

    I'll tell you what abbreviations are about: escort review and message boards, like The Erotic Review and Big Doggie. The acronyms were thought up as 'codespeak' for specific sexual acts, so men could describe exactly what happened in a session with an escort, and request escorts who provided certain sexual acts. It amuses me that people think it denotes some kind of secret language, as if law enforcement doesn't read these very same review boards and doesn't know exactly what these terms stand for. A lot of escorts use acronyms in their advertisements, falsely thinking it protects them from being busted for solicitation. Any kind of description of sexual acts in exchange for money, abbreviated, or not, is illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grace
    Online, you could probably spell things out. But if you ran an ad in print that said "I'll blow you and ream your anus with my tongue, but you can't fuck my tits or screw me without a condom" either you or the paper could face a pornography charge. I think that's what all the abbreviations are about.
    LOL. I never thought of that.

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    You're right, I didn't get. It was lame. Just my point of view though. I know you're not looking for an escort....sorry you didn't get the generality of my statement.

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    Although you will often hear that all those abbreviations and code words are intended to somehow fool the cops (LE), that is pretty silly as others have pointed out above, especially when lists of quite clear and explicit translations are often posted on the sites where they are used. See for example

    http://www.utopiaguide.com/forums/t1593.html.

    But they are really popular and heavily used in some circles. Imo, the main reason is that they are just convenient...saves a lot of repetitive typing of sometimes awkward phrases, just like the "imo" at the beginning of this sentence. In fact, most net communities use such "insiders jargon", more a part of the medium than anything special to do with prostitution. And of course it is common for informal groups of people to use some sort of specialized jargon or slang to define themselves, again nothing particularly to do with prostitution.

    -Ww
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    As the Truth eternally reveals itself,
    This very place is the Lotus Land of Purity,
    This very body is the Body of the Buddha."
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    How interesting.

    OK, now I'm curious. Does speaking a little Italian and Spanish in the first posting refer to anything in particular? I admit it - I'm dense here.

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    Sure Jay! If you speak other languages you will attract more potential customers. She said this was an example message. I don't see why you would say what language you do not speak however.

    For example if i was going to run an add for escorting it may sound like this.

    Hello my name is Cam, i will come to you, or you can meet up with me. I offer warm massages along with dressing in lingerie only for you. i am friendly and experienced. Prices may vary, if you are interseted please call 555-5555. Now that is quick and to the point. Lots of guys will have their imagination running with the "what else does she do."

    I could put in my hair colour, eyes etc. But this small add cut costs, and lets them know i am up for"something."

    Pamela

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    No J, unless there've been some new additions to the menu recently, Italian and Spanish aren't codes for anything.

    Pam, when saying a prostitute speaks french, greek or russian, it means she is willing to perform certain sexual favors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpy718
    NQNS = Non Quitter Non Spitter (Provider term for guys who just never get there)
    Uhh, that's not what that abbreviation means...at all. Not even close.

    This list has it correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno
    OK, now I'm curious. Does speaking a little Italian and Spanish in the first posting refer to anything in particular?
    I have heard Spanish used instead of Russian to refer to penis-breast sex, but it has become a much less common usage in recent years. Since a lot of providers (the polite net slang for an escort/prostitute) actually do speak the language Spanish, I think it is too ambiguous to be useful. Of course, these days lots of them actually speak Russian too. German is sometimes used to refer to BDSM type activities, which are uncommonly popular in Germany for some reason...so there is at least a little sense to it.

    The whole code word thing can get really silly. My ATF provider actually speaks five languages (verbally that is) and operates in a very cosmopolitan market with guys from all over the world, so the language codes can really getting confusing for her and her customers.

    -Ww
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    This very place is the Lotus Land of Purity,
    This very body is the Body of the Buddha."
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    Thanks, all. It's an interesting world. Always like to get a peek at other places.

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    Wow! The things you learn about the world of escorting. Ok, phone sex, i can go there. Guess i need escorting 101 lessons!!!

    EDIT: So i have been navigating around the web. Seems there is some conflict amoung terms. Interesting reading however. Still i would stick to my "simple" ad, seems as if i did not know the terms for escorting, maybe the police would not take my ad too serioulsy, or the would be customers....



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    Italian is sex with just the buttocks, ejaculation on the lower back.

    I've never heard of Spanish before.

    I'll just echo what Wwanderer said about the convenience, community and plausible deniability of the vernacular usage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer
    Italian is sex with just the buttocks, ejaculation on the lower back.
    That's a new (or forgotten) one for me. I wonder how these things get started.

    Let me add another one to our growing collection: "English culture" is sometimes used to refer to cross-dressing activiites and/or BDSM.

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    yo hablo espanol-there was no connotation. I was totally kidding, I wasn't advertising any kind of service. To translate what I put on the post:

    My name is Pimpy. I am a young Big Beautiful Woman looking for my All Time Favorite BoyFriend Experience sometime tonight BehindClosedDoors. I don't want PornStarExperience of BareBackBlowJobs, DiningAtTheY or CoveredFullService. Just some nice PrivateViewing of us together by the candle light. I don't speak Russian, Asian, French or Greek, but I do speak a little bit of Spanish and Italian. If you're interested, please
    call me, ByTheWay, YourMileageMayVery. xoxoxoxxxx

    I'm sorry if I gave anyone negative vibes off this thread, I just find it strangely amusing to put GFE, PSE or whatever they put on these websites to define the experience as like a code word when as a few people said before, law enforcement is aware of the definitions. Or to a person who has never had an escort-how are they supposed to know what a GFE is? I haven't seen adds in the newspaper that say GFE or PSE or BBBJ, they say either FULL SERVICE OR BODY RUB. I can kind of understand that-but I just was making fun of these stupid abreviations. I apologize if people like/use these abreviations-I just thought that I was on stripperweb.com, not escortweb.com and that people would be amused. Obviously I was wrong. Sorry, it's over. No more spanish, greek, russian, sorry nobody got my joke. I feel stupid now.

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    When I was asked in e-mail inquiries if I "spoke any languages" my answer was simple: Yes, English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpy718

    No more spanish, greek, russian, sorry nobody got my joke. I feel stupid now.
    Hey, I thought it was funny. People took you too seriously. The curse of electronic communication.

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