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    Not totally true. I've had a professor attempt to fail me on a paper (in english class) that was techically sound simply because my opinion did not concur with her publically vocalized opinion. I say "try" because I took the matter up with the department chair who awarded me an A. This happens all across America. It has happened to co-workers of mine. It has happened to customers of mine. It has happened to guys and girls on forums I visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily
    so how do you think you escaped the brainwashing and managed to stay in touch with the "real world"?
    Because I used the same technique I always use. I collected all the data and made my own analyzation instead of being spoon-fed an agenda-driven sugar coated fantasy.

    also, you never answered my question. Do you believe that God created man?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyforhire
    Because I used the same technique I always use. I collected all the data and made my own analyzation instead of being spoon-fed an agenda-driven sugar coated fantasy.

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    Yes.
    Why do you believe that God created man, when all scientific evidence suggests otherwise?

    Is that from collecting data and making your own analysis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chani_Fremen
    LOL. there is no plot in colleges to brainwash everyone to be liberal. There are many conservate professors and there are plenty of institutions like Brigham Young and Bob Jones University. Most Universities are located in the N.E. and the N.E. simply tends to be more liberal. There is no great conspiracy.
    Oh, I dunno...supposedly, the Bruin Republican Club had some problems on the UCLA campus in SoCal earlier this year

    http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=37843

    and a rebuttal link

    http://www.latinola.com/story.php?story=1660


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    Why do you believe that God created man, when all scientific evidence suggests otherwise?
    Because what you have suggested is not true. There is even a physics equation written by a noted PHD Dr. that absolutely proves that there is a God as creator.

    Is that from collecting data and making your own analysis?
    Not to be trite, but yes, it is.

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    OMG, LOL! Thanks for sharing this URL, Adina. I laughed my ass off.

    Of course, jabbing rednecks/nascar fans, gun-rack and confederate flag wavers in the ribs almost always results in discussion of God, maps and stuff, and talk of how tough it is to build oil refineries, etc.etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily
    Why do you believe that God created man, when all scientific evidence suggests otherwise?
    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyforhire
    Because what you have suggested is not true.
    I don't want to come across as disrespectful of anyone's religious beliefs, but honestly it's a bit funny to me that a person who accuses others of being brainwashed by the institutions of higher education, would make such a statement.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyforhire
    Because I used the same technique I always use. I collected all the data and made my own analyzation instead of being spoon-fed an agenda-driven sugar coated fantasy.
    And what of persons who disagree with you that have also come to their own conclusion in the same manner as you. Are those people also brainwashed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyforhire
    Not totally true. I've had a professor attempt to fail me on a paper (in english class) that was techically sound simply because my opinion did not concur with her publically vocalized opinion. I say "try" because I took the matter up with the department chair who awarded me an A. This happens all across America. It has happened to co-workers of mine. It has happened to customers of mine. It has happened to guys and girls on forums I visit.
    And this happens to everyone. There are liberal professors that take advantage of conservatives and their are conservatives that take advantage of liberals. It's sad, but your are right, it happens.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyforhire
    Because what you have suggested is not true. There is even a physics equation written by a noted PHD Dr. that absolutely proves that there is a God as creator.
    Does he get an automatic pass to heaven for that?

    Where is this equation--and why, if the existence of God has been without question been scientifically proven, have we not heard more about it?

    Such a discovery would dwarf all human knowledge and endeavor, and would be emblazoned on the front pages of every newspaper on Earth. Forgive my skepticism, but this smacks of brainwashing--probably from all those college credits.
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    Damn, hell, piss, shit, fuck! See, this is what I get for going to law school in the South - I would've LOVED to have at least had the opportunity to hear some of the left-wing, liberal stuff they're brainwashing people with... wherever the hell that's supposedly going on. Instead, I had the misfortune of going to a school where the Con Law professor called me into his office at the beginning of the semester and asked me to please help him out by speaking up more in class, 'cause out of 90 students I was one of only two who weren't completely wed to the right-wing Republican party line... and it's a lot easier to make the case law learning method work like it's supposed to if both sides are being presented and argued. Crud... all that right-wing crap they tried to brainwashy me with too - talk about annoying to have to sit and listen to!

    Re equation that "absolutely proves" there is a God... THIS I've got to see: it's the Holy Grail of man's existence on Earth! Show me. Please.
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    I found it to be quite amusing that on the top left corner of the link describing how a conservative talk show host had saved the college Republicans' convention, there was this priceless little gem:

    "Changed Lives: Miracles of the Passion (DVD)

    You've seen Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ." Now see how that uniquely powerful film has served as a catalyst for change in this eye-opening documentary. These are the true stories of people whose lives have been radically and miraculously altered as a result of having seen that blockbuster film.

    Shot in High Definition, "Changed Lives: Miracles of The Passion" is a 1-hour program that captures, in their own words, people's inspiring and documented accounts of relationships restored, diseases healed, the dead resurrected, atheists coming to faith and even a confession to murder.

    "It is truly unprecedented the way God has used 'The Passion' to bring healing, reconciliation and peace to people across the nation and around the globe," says Executive Producer Jody Eldred. "

    http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=864


    I was also fascinated by the rebuttal link, which describes how "on campus, the
    Bruin Republicans, with the assistance of at least $28,000 raised from "hate
    radio," are demanding that MEChA denounce its founding documents. BR members, like their ideological brethren, apparently can't read. They insist that MEChA denounce "El Plan de Aztlan" (which is not its founding document)."

    There is no link for any Miracle videos on the rebuttal page.

    Thanks for a cool post, PhaedrusZ.
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    Daddyforhire.

    That's cool that you are using faith as a basis of inference. That's your right in this country. It doesn't make it proof. I've read some of these proofs and they are circular. The beauty of Quantum Mechanics is a number of unlikely things have to be assumed.

    One is that any two hydrogen atoms in the universe can spontaneously undergo fusion. (I find this remarkable, but it's palatable if my faith lends itself to this concept.)

    So, why, after you've scientifically evaluated all possible theories, have you denounced evolution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilly
    However I dont think that people like Jay are the norm in his party but rather the exception.
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    It's NOT MY PARTY!!

    I'm registered Republican as a convenience in my district because that is where my vote has the most meaning. If the Democrats were the majority in my district, I'd be a registered Democrat!

    The reason I spend SO MUCH FRUITLESS TIME in SEEMING to protect some nebulous conservative thoughts is not because I care what happens to Republicans, because I don't. What I do like to argue against is blind faith, knee-jerk reactions, monolithic thinking, and value blindness. I argue against that with both conservatives and liberals with equal glee - it's just that on this forum, the liberals are more numerous.


    I dont think thats what alot (the majority?) of Repubs voters want or they would have put their support behind McCain. They didnt- they wanted Bush
    That was their mistake - just as it was so obviously a mistake for the Democrats to want Kerry. We had no choice but to live with a mistake, either way.


    I don't think Repubs (in general) want the two sides to "work together" I think the want to get rid of the Dem party COMPLETELY.
    Yes, one side has a monopoly in virtue. If you're a conservative, it's the conservatives. If you're a liberal, it's the liberals.


    In the most base simplistic terms, I think Repubs are out to "get" people like me they dont agree with liberal concepts and want to eradicate them from our culture.
    Just the way that liberals have worked to promote liberal views and eradicate the conservative ones.


    I think the ultimate "Conservative" goal is the eliminate any opposition.
    They want control of everything.
    Funny, I've never heard a liberal say, "I wish the conservatives were in control of ......"


    I don't know if my point is made. I hear both extremes saying the exact same thing - just in different directions. To me, it's two sides of an amusingly corrupt coin.

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    Read "The Physics of Mortality" by Frank J. Tipler.

    And now that I've answered several questions, here's one of my own:

    Age & level of education?

    I'm out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyforhire
    Damnit, once more into the fray:
    Addicting isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyforhire
    Of course. Colleges are havens for uber-liberals that rarely exam things in a "real world" context but rather debate utopian constructs and attempt to implement thos fantasies thru inculcation of young and moldable minds.
    I wonder if some of these tenured university professors making $100K a year would re-examine things if they we're suddenly out of work and began getting the business end of some of the ideas they've long espoused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyforhire
    Amazing how you can be subjected to a professor's political agenda in an algebra class isn't it?
    Yes, I can relate to you on that one. What's even more amazing that it goes on at universities located even in the reddest of red states. I can only imagine what the academic environment would be like in California or the Northeast.
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    I have to respectfully disagree with most of what Jay just posted above.


    In general, I find that "liberals" feel both sides should be represented. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same for most of the "conservative' persons I have experienced.

    I also do not see "liberals" trying to force their personal belief structure on the entire population, or world for that matter. This is something conservatives have a monopoly on in the US.

    "Liberals" want to choose things for themselves, whereas many a "conservative" wants to choose for everyone.

    I'm sorry, but there is a big difference between the overall actions of the two parties. And if a person is offended at being lumped with the party he or she is registered with then maybe that person is not being true to his or her real

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser
    Your views can always be counted on ....
    I missed this one, Dj. Thanks, man.


    I especially loved your cogent summation of the various Presidential attributes--I forget where--but it was so true, and very funny...
    This one?

    Well, having lived through the troll Johnson, the maniac Nixon, the wimp Ford, the ineffectual Carter, the senile Reagan, the waffling Bush, the pecker-driven Clinton, and the English-impaired Bush, I can say that somehow, through all the hand-wringing and bemoaning of opponents, this democratic republic keeps moving on and enduring.


    Quote Originally Posted by LauraLove
    I have to respectfully disagree with most of what Jay just posted above.
    Our experiences obviously differ, Laura. Maybe we both need to get out more.

    If I held to my political beliefs, I'd register "independent," but then I wouldn't have a say in any primary. I know - I've tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily
    So, why, after you've scientifically evaluated all possible theories, have you denounced evolution?
    Since when do creationism and evolution have to be mutually exclusive philosiphies? He merely said that he believed that God created man, not that it happened according to the literal interpretation of the Bible that fundies are trying to ram down everyone's throats. DFH will have to clarify on that one.
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    is there something wrong with believing in God?...and that He is the creator of all things?...is there something wrong with being a spiritual person...and having faith in a higher being?...i'm just curious...because man...humans...will always let you down...or betray your trust...or lie to gain whatever...or 'brainwash' folks...

    i'd rather put my faith in God rather than man...God's creations are the reason that scientists (sp) have something to study...where did the atom come from?...
    Why do some people still have to fight...to get the same opportunities...that are given to others??...

    Look out for self...because noone else will...AND
    The greatest revenge in the world...is success...

    Reclusivness...is a good thing.

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    I subscribe to the belief that the bible is literal in most of its parts, but figurative in Genesis where it describes the beginning.

    I do not hold too stringent a belief in the wisdom of man. Over the past several centuries science has told us many things that have proven to be false.

    As an aside (sort of anyway), I have had two PHD's for chemistry so far, and in talking to both of them in private I have learned that both are strong Christians. So you tell me, how can men who have studied life on such a miniscule level for so long at such depth possibly believe in God in spite of their studies? The answer they each gave me is that the level of their faith is because of their studies. I'm sure to some that pales in comparison to the vast and yet shallow learnings of the google searchers, but it carries weight with me

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    I'm sure to some that pales in comparison to the vast and yet shallow learnings of the google searchers, but it carries weight with me
    The search for knowledge is something to encourage, not something to make fun of

    There is more than one way to search for it as well. Neither your way or my way (etc., etc) is the only way to acquire knowledge of the world.

    For example -- just because I am extensively trained in classical ballet doesn't mean that is the only acceptable of possible form of dance. I might prefer it to tap but that doesn't make tap any less of an art form.

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    In general, I find that "liberals" feel both sides should be represented. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same for most of the "conservative' persons I have experienced.

    I also do not see "liberals" trying to force their personal belief structure on the entire population, or world for that matter. This is something conservatives have a monopoly on in the US.

    "Liberals" want to choose things for themselves, whereas many a "conservative" wants to choose for everyone.
    Methinks you need to get out more, Laura.

    Liberals are responsible for such brilliant social engineering fiascos like gun control, affirmative action, thought/hate crimes legislation, campus speech codes, nanny governance of the citizenry, et al.

    Liberals have just as much interest as (social) conservatives as imposing their worldview on society. And until 1996, they'd done a pretty good job of it, having a 40-year run of legislative power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyforhire
    I subscribe to the belief that the bible is literal in most of its parts, but figurative in Genesis where it describes the beginning.
    So i'm assuming that you mean Sampson actually ripped down the city gates and carried them ten miled, or that he literally killed 10,000 men with the jawbone of a donkey?

    Or that nine hundred foot tall giants were born of a union between the "Sons of God" and the "Daughters of men" (It says in the bible that the Nephlim were to us "as men are to locusts").

    I'm assuming you mean that rabbits chew cud (the bible states flat out that rabbits chew cud). Um, Rabbits don't chew Cud. I'm assuming you mean that Bats are birds as stated in Leviticus...

    I'm assuming you mean that the "virtuous" family of Noah carried every known sexually transmitted disease with them on the Ark.

    I'm assuming you mean the sun stopped in the sky cuz Josh wanted it to...

    Or that Saul just couldn't get those "evil spirits from the lord" off of him...

    This gets even more ludicrous. Get into Ezekiel, god not only hates women, but he hates pillows. Bizarre. I'll post the verse for ya, because it's just too weird... Ezekiel 13:18 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the [women] that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive [that come] unto you? Ezekiel 13:19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear [your] lies? Ezekiel 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make [them] fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, [even] the souls that ye hunt to make [them] fly.

    Fucking bizarre...

    And to paraphrase another weird verse, this one from Isaiah... Isaiah 8:3 Isaiah has sex with a prophetess who conceives and bears a son. (You weren't expecting a daughter, were you?) God then tells Isaiah to call his name Mathershalalhashbaz. (It has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?)

    How about this one Ezekiel 4:12 - God tells Ezekiel to eat barley cakes that are made with "the dung that cometh out of man." (Yum!)

    How anyone can believe this bullshit is beyond me. Over my head, man.

    To each their own, believe what ya want... Seems like the Easter Bunny, Santa, and the Tooth Faerie rolled up into one. No issue with the people who buy into this line of fable, but i just can't see why anyone believes it. Might as well Pray to Zeus and Thor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer
    Methinks you need to get out more, Laura.

    Liberals are responsible for such brilliant social engineering fiascos like gun control, affirmative action, thought/hate crimes legislation, campus speech codes, nanny governance of the citizenry, et al.

    Liberals have just as much interest as (social) conservatives as imposing their worldview on society. And until 1996, they'd done a pretty good job of it, having a 40-year run of legislative power.
    So now she needs to get out more because she doesnt share the same opinions as you do ? Whatever

    Oh yeah and hate crime legislation is just such a horrible thing, right?

    Please-give me a break! Maybe if a person is bigoted then hate crime legislation might be a bad thing, but for the rest of the people-especially those who are the usual victims of hate crime-it's a very, very good thing. And if trying to limit people from stock piling assault weapons is a bad thing then - well sorry but some mental help might be in order

    Also -- liberals dont try to force others into following their personal code, we want everyone to be able to pick whats best for their own self.

    If promoting independent thinking and individual choice is imposing their worldview on society, then yes liberals take part in it.That's completely different though than saying there is only one way in religion or politics etc., which is something many right-wingers do ALOT of

    btw Madcap-great examples of literal translation !!!!

    Sorry DaddyforHire but with the numerous language translations and political history of the world I just cant buy into thatt every word is God's word thing. I think the Bible is a great source of history and loaded with fables that can teach us about humanity but that's as far as I can go with it on any logical level.
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    Leviticus 11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he [is] unclean unto you.

    So according to the 100% correct bible, Rabbits (Hares) chew cud. Someone should tell the rabbits...

    And how many evil spirits did god send after Saul? Lets find out, shall we?

    1st Samuel 16:14-16 But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee. Let our lord now command thy servants, [which are] before thee, to seek out a man, [who is] a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand, and thou shalt be well.

    1st Samuel 16:23 And it came to pass, when the [evil] spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.

    1st Samuel 18:10 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and [there was] a javelin in Saul's hand.

    1st Samuel 19:9 And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with [his] hand.

    For such a 100% good god, he's sure sending out a lot of evil spirits to torment Saul, eh? Lets not talk about the ten times he hardens Pharoah's heart so that he will not let the people go...

    Dealing with the wrong Muchacho as far as the bible goes, bud. I've read that sucker cover to cover about ninety five times. Reading it all the way MYSELF cost me my faith, how do ya like that? The bible drive me away from christianity.
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