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    Here we go: link is to article re Bush and Blair backing a Palistinian state - they don't make the most of this opportunity though, I suspect we'll all but completely throw in the towel insofar as trying to restrain Israel goes.

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._wh/bush_blair
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    Well, it's slightly a better chance to improve things over there. But the mass neuroticism of both the militant Palestinians and the right-wing Israelis will be just much of a roadblock to peace as ever. The next generation wil likely be even more militant on both sides. Maybe this is all related to the predictions made in the Book of Relevations. As mystical as that comment is, maybe it is the only thing that makes sense.
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    New's Flash-

    Suprise, Surprise, Arafat's successor has just survived being shot at by assassins because he is an "American Agent".

    The Fun and Games have just begun...

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    Long live the state of Palestine, and may the will of the Palestinian people carry on to surpass the drive of this great leader who had watched his people suffer so much.

    BTW: I think Shua should take a diet, she looked better slim.

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    Are you being sarcastic? Because if not, then there's one thing in there I agree with. ArabFat did sit and WATCH while keeping billions of dollars in his Swiss bank accounts and not doing anything to actually help his people. Sending out suicide bombers to blow up busses knowing full well that the only things that would accomplish (aside from killing innocent civilians) would be full closures on the territories so that his people couldn't leave to work, and giving the Israeli government more motivation to not negotiate. Yeah, great leader.

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    New blood could be good...but only if our CIA stays the hell away (which we won't).

    I believe most "developed" nations need to develop a Prime Directive of Nonintervention, especially when it comes to the Mideast.

    But, nonintervention means we must not remain dependent on that black blood they keep feeding our economy with. Nonintervention requires sustainable independence (for US).

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    Quote Originally Posted by commando
    Are you being sarcastic?
    Commando - doubt it, look at the name... refers to U.N. Resolution 242.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discretedancer
    But, nonintervention means we must not remain dependent on that black blood they keep feeding our economy with.
    The top two suppliers of crude for the US are actually Mexico and Canada. In that order. Number three would be Saudi Arabia- the only ME country to make the top five list- which accounts for less than 15% of our "black blood" infusions. Rounding out the top suppliers are Nigeria and Venezuela.

    Just in case you were wondering, neither Palestine nor Israel have oil.
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    Actually, Canada is our largest crude supplier, followed by Mexico.
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    US top crude oil suppliers - mbd
    Change Jan 04 - Jan 03

    Country
    Jan-04
    Dec-03
    Jan-03

    Mexico
    1.665
    1.765
    1.566
    0.099

    Canada
    1.626
    1.765
    1.621
    0.005


    They seem to have spent the last couple of years jostling each other for our business. Last report has Mexico leading, before that a tie, before that Canada leading. My best guess from the available information is that Mexico was a happy underdog for years until Venezuela had a supply problem in 2000. I don't exactly subcribe to Petroleum Weekly, so feel free to post any more recent reports.
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    LOL- GrnBeret, I didn't even make the connection! very astute! What would I do without you?

    And yes, people seem to make the assumption that becaue Israel is located in the middle east, that the whole conflict has something to do with oil. *sigh*

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    Quote Originally Posted by GnBeret
    Commando - doubt it, look at the name... refers to U.N. Resolution 242.
    Actually 242 is one of my lucky numbers. It had nothing to do with UN resolutions (which, incidentally, Israel has been in violation of for nearly a half-century). At any rate, just wanted to point out that you were paranoid / conspiracy-minded enough yourself to affix meaning to a wholly unrelated incidental set of 3 (three!!!) charachters - quite a feat.

    It does not suprise me that you are from texas. Bush used a similar method to determine Iraq needed to be conqured.

    "242_fair" = advocate of anti-Zionist united nations resolutions esp res #242
    "IraQ = AlQaida ( hey, they both have the letter Q, its so obvious they're in kahoots! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by 242_fair
    Actually 242 is one of my lucky numbers. It had nothing to do with UN resolutions (which, incidentally, Israel has been in violation of for nearly a half-century). At any rate, just wanted to point out that you were paranoid / conspiracy-minded enough yourself to affix meaning to a wholly unrelated incidental set of 3 (three!!!) charachters - quite a feat.

    It does not suprise me that you are from texas. Bush used a similar method to determine Iraq needed to be conqured.

    "242_fair" = advocate of anti-Zionist united nations resolutions esp res #242
    "IraQ = AlQaida ( hey, they both have the letter Q, its so obvious they're in kahoots! )
    Not from Texas... just moved here awhile back. And as long as we're at it, voted for Kerry.
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    Well,

    If you all checked the news recently, the Arabs and Palastinians are now blaming Arafat's death on "poisoning by Israeli agents".

    More fun to come...

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    And yes, people seem to make the assumption that becaue Israel is located in the middle east, that the whole conflict has something to do with oil. *sigh*
    Thank you for driving to the heart of this matter ! Reading a little 1919 history teaches a lot more about UK and US foreign policy vis a vis the middle east and attitudes of middle eastern factions than anything else !

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