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    Default A new way to talk about earnings?

    Since none of us like to talk specific numbers when we talk about how much money we make, but many of us are interested to know about earning potentials and cost of living in other parts of the country/world, I thought we could talk in terms of rent.

    For example, in my case, it takes me about 2.5 shifts (4.5 hours each) to pay the monthly rent on a two-bedroom house for me, my husband, our two cats and a dog.

    Anyone else find this interesting?

    I guess I started thinking about this while reading about the discrepancies in nightly earnings from dancer to dancer and region to region. How much of the discrepancy is due to different costs of living?

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    Default Re: A new way to talk about earnings?

    or you could just do pm's.

    but yeah your idea is interesting ;-)

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    Default Re: A new way to talk about earnings?

    I don't have rent. :-)



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    i dont understand why poeple are so uncomftale saying what they really earn.....just be honest guys and we wouldnt have these problems!

    "oh i make a thou a night, youll do that easy, come work at my club" then youget there, and NO ONE makes over 500.






    if you wanna know i make about 30,000yen on an average night, 70,000 on a good night, and with a regualr customer coming in i expect somewhere over 100,000yen. on an average week i make about 200 to 300,000 yen.

    happy? honest

    it helps everyone that way, no bs.

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    Default Re: A new way to talk about earnings?

    I tend to talk about my earnings on an hourly basis, because no matter how little you make, it puts it into a context where it sounds really good.

    For instance, I work five hour shifts @ my club, and the other night, made just over $100. Not that great, and not what I had expected to make. But when you divide $100/5 hours, you get $20/hr, which, let's be honest, isn't all that shabby.

    Anyways, an average night for me is $200-$300, and good is anything above that, (generally ~$500). I work 3-4 shifts a week, and generally average out to about $1000/wk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mermaidnz
    ...if you wanna know i make about 30,000yen on an average night, 70,000 on a good night, and with a regualr customer coming in i expect somewhere over 100,000yen. on an average week i make about 200 to 300,000 yen...
    Guess you must be a multi-millionaire then
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    I would LOVE if dancers would be honest about how much they make. I ended up going to a club that one of my friends works at, where she claims she makes at least $600 a night. She doesn't. Not only that, but it's one of the worst extras places I have ever seen. Not my thing.

    In the interest of honesty-last night I worked 8 hours and made $170ish, which IS terrible, but is also half my rent(I live in NE Ohio and rent a studio). I tend to average about $100-120ish a night and $60-80ish days (4 hour shifts). I know some girls do make lots more, but most seem to make around that. I would LOVE to make $600 a night-I'd work one night a week! LOL I'm not sure that's possible around here though...

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    I averaged about $100 an hour last night, slightly more between 2-4am when there was no alcohol, and guys are buying lots of laps.

    Things that slowed me down: main and side stages twice, my regular, working a new regular.....

    A good night, no assholes, everyone behaved well.....

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    i have no reason to lie. I usually make around 2-4 houndred a night. that is usually a 6-8 hour shift. It just depends on if i go home at midnight or stay till two. I often have 500 and up nights. But I have my bad nights too. Tuesday i left the club wth 4 dollars!!!! Thursday I left with 22 dollars, but wed i mad 400. So it just depends. At the end of every night i write down how much money i made on a calander. At the end of the month i can see how much i made tht month and what my average is, my average is usually close to 300 a night.
    I know how you feel when you are told great things abou t a place, you get there and it is nothig like what you were told. Not only did you waste your time, you could have made money at home and wouldnt have had to pay for travel expences. That always sucks. I tell girls about clubs that I have been to and i try to be as honest as possible. One of the clubs that I work every now and then, I can steadily break 500 dollars a night. One of my friends went out there and said that she didnt make good money and she dont see how i made that good. So just because one girl makes money somewhere dosent mean others will make the same. I know girls at my home club that drop there jaw when i say i made 500. There are other girls that say, "thats not too bad". So every girl is giong to make different amounts, sometimes drastically varying on the same night at the same club even with the same customer.

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    Default Re: A new way to talk about earnings?

    This week:
    Tuesday $42/hr
    Wednesday $68/hr
    Thursday $26/hr
    Friday $102/hr
    Saturday $130/hr

    which paid for:
    mortgage
    2 car payments (mixup last month meant I didn't pay it, and it's a Lexus)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny
    Guess you must be a multi-millionaire then
    lol i wish!

    same as everyone else,take the good with the bad. for every average/good night i have,i might have 1-3 BAD nights, lately tho, many more bad then good.actually,many more bad then average even dont forget im working 9-12 hours a night here,including dohans!!!!

    in aussie i make much less then here, but it is more consistant, ie every night i make AUD$350-$550. and maybe one night out of the week i have an under 300nite, and one night out of every 2 weeks, ill make over 550. it all depends

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    My very first post on these boards ... so hello to all.

    Several things that need to be considered and thought about:

    How much you make per hour/night can only give someone a very general idea of how well you do at a club. There are many, many factors that are unspoken, unconsidered, and/or unwanted.

    'Girl A' says she works three nights a week and that she makes $1,500/night at a certain club. Yet before 'Girl B' gets excited and rushes to that club ... there are things she must consider ...

    Is 'Girl A' being truthful? It is not uncommon for dancers to ... shall we say ... not be entirely truthful with each other ... especially in regards to the amount of money they made! You can often multiply or divide the number you are told by two and be far closer to the truth.

    Is 'Girl A' a resident dancer at this club? Has she worked there for quite some time and built up regulars? Or ... alternatively ... has she worked there more than just a night/day or two? Might she have just been there on a few exceptional money-making shifts?

    Is 'Girl A' willing to do more for money than you would be willing to do? I might not make many friends by saying so ... but a VERY large number of dancers are willing to do ... more ... if they are getting extra $$. Friend or not ... you need to decide if 'Girl A' is willing to go the 'extra mile' that you will not.

    As previously mentioned ... cost of living needs to be considered. If the club isn't nearby ... you need to try and find out if that almighty dollar will go as far as it does in your current area. 'Girl A' might make on average, $200/night more than you ... but in reality you might very well be in the same financial boat.

    Just thought I would share,

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    Default Re: A new way to talk about earnings?

    Sorry guys, I guess I wasn't very clear about what I was interested in finding out.

    My point was not so much to hide or lie about the dollar amounts that we make, but that the dollar amounts don't necessarily mean very much because the dollar is worth different amounts in different regions, and numbers don't mean anything between different currencies. However, something that many of us have in common is rent.

    So...If two and a half nights would be enough to cover rent on a typical apartment in Lincoln, NE, how does that compare to a bigger city? Can you make rent in half an hour? or does it take you two and a half shifts too?

    Anyway, maybe it's not that interesting after all

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    ahhh. now i understand, its a good concept.

    i guess what you mean is the whole "value of a dollar" thing cost of living whatever it is??!

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    Sell a lot of VIPs dontcha Emily?
    Kat, I could see that, easily.

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    Actually, I really don't sell that many VIPs. I did one on Friday and Saturday I met a man who didn't want to go in, but tipped very generously for conversation.

    It's not that hard to make $100 per hour on a busy night like Friday or Saturday. That's like 5 lap dances and one trip on stage every hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mermaidnz
    ahhh. now i understand, its a good concept.

    i guess what you mean is the whole "value of a dollar" thing cost of living whatever it is??!
    exactly.

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    This might help:

    http://homestore.com/Move/Tools/Sala...?poe=homestore

    It's a how much do I have to make there if I make this much here calculator.

    For instance, if you make $100,000/year in Lincoln, NE, it says you have to make $171,000/year in San Francisco, CA to maintain the same standard of living. (Of course, you eliminate cultural and lifestyle variables from the equation).

    So if you want to look at it from the hundreds/night perspective and you earn $300/night in Lincoln, you would have to earn $513/night in San Francisco (although you'd really probably have to earn more since I'm pretty sure the spending temptations in San Francisco are much greater than in Lincoln).
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    Sherrill,
    Are you thinking about Purchasing Power Parity? Although this business theory is usually used to discuss the value of a dollar relative to foreign currency, some of its principles can be applied when discussing the relevance of earnings by local geographic region.

    Aka The Big Mac Index. We can change this into the Big Boob Index if you like, LOL? How much does 4 minutes with a pair of big boobs cost you in NYC versus SLC, for example? Of course, a big mac is a tangible thing you eat and boobs...well....I digress...

    http://www.campusprogram.com/referen...er_parity.html

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    Ooooh, Silverback's calcullator link is far superior comparison!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily

    It's not that hard to make $100 per hour on a busy night like Friday or Saturday. That's like 5 lap dances and one trip on stage every hour.
    Depends, when you consider how many girls we have working on the weekends, plus how many non-paying young punk kids and women that are in the club. $100 an hour is very good for Austin. We don't have VIP rooms where the dancer is going to make $200 for being in the room, paid upfront to the bouncer. No one is going to give you more than $20 a song here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mia M
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    http://minneapolisfed.org/Research/d...calc/index.cfm

    Aha! CPI, this is what I was looking for!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuschia
    I would LOVE if dancers would be honest about how much they make. I ended up going to a club that one of my friends works at, where she claims she makes at least $600 a night. She doesn't. Not only that, but it's one of the worst extras places I have ever seen. Not my thing.
    Fuschia
    True Fushia..But its hard to put numbers on what everyone will make at the club. I remember taking a friend to work with me one night at a very good club.
    I made a very good amount of $ and she made 60 bucks. Why ?? Because she chose to sit on this broke guy's lap ALL night while he whispered sweet nothings in her ear. Besides that money not only does $ differ from girl to girl but, from table to table too.
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    Very true. It really does depend on the girl. I wouldn't mind if people were honest about what they made though. Even if I may or may not make anywhere near it. The friend of mine really didn't make $600 a night, though some of the girls did-for sex and the like in the back. I ran screaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuschia
    Very true. It really does depend on the girl. I wouldn't mind if people were honest about what they made though. Even if I may or may not make anywhere near it. The friend of mine really didn't make $600 a night, though some of the girls did-for sex and the like in the back. I ran screaming.

    Fuschia
    Opps I forgot the "other" factor comfort level..LOL One's comfort level can also determine how much someone makes in the club.
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