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    Jenny - aboslutely great advice! *kisses*

    I think I may be in the "pal" phase now

    -L.

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    Default Re: "Too Intelligent" - THANK YOU! :)

    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    It sounds to me like you're having trouble committing yourself to creating the fantasy. (Is this a case of the entrepreneur not delivering the desired product to the consumer?) Regardless of the level of its intelligence, it is, after all, supposed to be his fantasy you're spinning.

    Sometimes I find that I must play a mental game with myself to sustain my motivation, with me being the only one who enjoys my own creativity. I imagine I'm trying to pry corporate secrets out of him or that my mission is to probe the depth of his misinformation. Instead of adding my own two cents, I'll quiz him about his opinion and be attentive. "Well, I've never really understood (specific process)" and let him elaborate unchallenged as I non-verbally bask in his brilliance.

    The upside of your intelligence is you can determine how to modify the application of your intelligence to your advantage. For fun and profit, perhaps you should try being craftier, not less intelligent, as a business model.
    Dood, this chick is coooooool. I bet you make mad cash at the club. Your style is not dissimilar to my own. Ladies, heed this wise advice.

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    Default Re: "Too Intelligent" - THANK YOU! :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    Dood, this chick is coooooool. I bet you make mad cash at the club. Your style is not dissimilar to my own. Ladies, heed this wise advice.
    Ohmygawd, Katrine! As a SW newbie, I'm caught off guard to the point of laughter because, funny thing is, I was thinking the same thing 'bout your posts.

    A Mutual Admiration Society might be in order. LOL

    -Ev

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    I have the same EXACT problem...in fact just tonight a customer started talking to me and said that when I walked in (b4 i was dressed and all) he could tell i was smart and wanted to chat me up, no dances, just chat. Here's what I've learned:If you're intellegent it'll show no matter what, u can't help it, no matter how u act u won't have that "vacant stripper look", and you'll still sound educated. Sadly I've had to dumb myself down a bit. Let me see how to explain this...I still sound intellegent, but I've trained myself to throw in some airhead responses. Like when guys ask what I like to do, instead of saying going to the movies or something of the sort. I'll say something along the lines of "oh u know, shopping, getting my hair/nails done, girly stuff". I still make myself appear smart, but not so much that a customer gains to much respect for me to get a lapdance (hope that makes sense to yall). Also, in general it's never good to let on just how intellegent you are, sometimes it's better to let people think you're a bit dumb so you can keep the upper hand (this applies outside of the stripclub too.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveSexMoney

    I don't mean be a complete ding dong. But I'm curious what sort of things do you say to them to constantly hear, "you're too intelligent?"
    It's not always so much what you say as how you say it...personally I don't have serious convos with customers...yet my radiant intellect shines through
    I speak properly, and I sound educated even though I'm not. Sometimes certain words (and not even big ones) give a clue. For instance, a customer commented on me sounding educated after I used the word "relativeley", which I obviously can't even spell correctly.

    Forgot to mention, different guys want different things, feel them out. If a custie likes a girl that's dumber than a doorknob, then be that girl...if he likes a girl just as dumb as a doorknob then be that girl, if he likes a girl smarter than a doorknob then be that girl. A set persona doesn't always work.

    Also forgot to mention, being smart in this biz can be a plus. You can better analyze/profile guys and know exactly what words to say to literally talk the money out of their pockets without them even realizing it
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    Default Re: "Too Intelligent" - THANK YOU! :)

    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    Ohmygawd, Katrine! As a SW newbie, I'm caught off guard to the point of laughter because, funny thing is, I was thinking the same thing 'bout your posts.

    A Mutual Admiration Society might be in order. LOL

    -Ev

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mia M
    If a cupcake was tossed at me... well, I'd only be upset if it missed my mouth

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    Don't know if it was this thread or the other, but one time this guy said, after hearing I was a nursing student
    "oh, my friend and I work at Lockheed Martin - so basically we make the bombs and you patch 'em up afterwards - it's like we work together."
    me: "Right, we're symbiotic like that."
    guy: *blink . . . blink* I don't think I've ever heard a stripper use the term symbiotic.


    This college-y guy asked me the other night "so did you even finish highschool?" >.<
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    I've been trying out the "dumber" thing for a few weeks now. So far it's worked pretty well:

    * Guy says he works for a "tech company" or names a company we all know is tech. I say "Oh, neat - so you get to work with computers and stuff" (I was a Computer Science Major with a focus on Data Communications & Networking, and can run Linux commands off the back of my hand.. ).

    * Guy asks what I do in my free time. By this point they all ready know two things: I am a dancer and I go to school. I can't resist but throw in "read" in there somewhere. But I also say "Well, I don't have much free time, because I'm kind of high-maintanance, you know, with working out, tanning, etc. But when I do have free time, I spend it with my kitties, go out downtown, or sometimes go to OTHER stripclubs with my friends."

    * Guy asks if I go to school. "YES" If he seems to like dumber girls, I play up the fact that it's community college and that I didn't do too well in high school. If he likes smarter girls, I say I'm at that college because of the major they offer is very rare in the US (it is!), and how I quit my previous 4-year college because I didn't like the major. If the guy likes dumber girls, and asks what I'm majoring in, I say "I don't know" (which is *somewhat* true for my transferring), or I say "music" - NOT music business or the formal title of my major Men seem to really like women who are going to be teachers, or they expect us to be young and thus think "undecided" is a normal answer (ladies - this is because men mature much slower than women, and those men who went to college remember being undecided about their future even in their senior years. You definitely don't want something in their head clicking that YOU are more motivated and knowledgable as a stripper than they were at that age!).

    * I've also been doing the body language: more laughter, twirling hair, looking at finger nails, *tee-heeing* about how I'm "tipsy", etc.

    GOOD LUCK.

    -L.

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    Don't know if it was this thread or the other, but one time this guy said, after hearing I was a nursing student
    "oh, my friend and I work at Lockheed Martin - so basically we make the bombs and you patch 'em up afterwards - it's like we work together."
    me: "Right, we're symbiotic like that."
    guy: *blink . . . blink* I don't think I've ever heard a stripper use the term symbiotic.
    UGH. Funny. Sad, but still funny.
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    I have the same problem. I can't refrain from using "big" words for any length of time and I am in Grad school. Even in making "light" conversation, it's hard not to say "oh I saw something about that in Tuesday's Wall Street Journal".

    They're right that my best paying regulars love my brain. They want to date me/ leave their wives etc. If you make a connection with someone mentally, use your intellect.

    If guys are into sports or from out of town, etc., I just make outrageous claims of horniness. That's also a good save technique - If I get going and realize I've said too much and they say I'm "too smart" or "why do you work here", I just shrug and say I'm a total pervert. Or go into some story of some whacky pervy thing you did the other night.

    Like if I made the Wall Street Journal faux pas, I might attempt to salvage it by elaborating: "I read about that in Tuesday's Wall Street Journal...while I was having my pussy waxed."

    or "Yeah I have a masters degree in accounting, but I'm a pervert at heart and this is so much more fun than sitting in front of the computer all day."

    Or, I might say that yes I read a lot and when they ask what I like to read I say "kinky smutty literature"

    Or, if you use a big word and they say something about it, laugh and belt out a string of big words with words like "fellatio" thrown in


    Hope that helps. I also know how I act after 2 martinis and I try to channel or emulate that conduct without actually consuming two martinis. Another trick is to *try* to act slightly drunk when you're sober.

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    I dont think your problem is that your to intelligent. I think its that you are talking for to much and too long to these guys and not being agressive enough to get the dances. I work in alot of upscale show clubs were I get paid to talk to white collar businessmen and believe me they love talking to an intelligent intellctual dancer they can talk about all subjects with, other than were the girl does her hair and nails and ger hobbies. They appreciate it. Being a business owner at one time as well and having quite a bit of realestate, I like you tend to get into business disscusions and I think that can be worse than being to intelligent, this may be the problem you are having. Guys dont want to give you sny money because they think you are already wealthy and sucessfull. So my advise would be to not tone down your intelligence, just your business sense. You may be intimidating those who think they dont stack up.

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    Sorry about the typos.

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    This thread reminded me:
    Another dancer at work: "Oh, you're a firefighter? wow. So are you the one that runs into burning building or are you more of the getting the kitten out of the tree type?"

    Firefighter customer: Oh, it's not THAT exciting here, the most I've had to deal with in the last couple of days was two heroin addicts, out completely col-

    Dancer: In a tree?


    She seriously isn't stupid, but that comment was so great.
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    Personaly,I love it when a woman(stripper or not) is complete enough to be at least reasonably intelectual,AND a complete sex kitten. The balance is great. Some real smart girls look down on the pursuit of being hot,like its benieth them or something.They suck...A girl who is really hot,but nothing else,is fun but only for an hour or two..But in your jobs,if you're dealing with a dipshit,its no good to make it clear to him that you're way smarter than he is.A normal guy may still give you $$ if he thinks you're just a dumbass,but he wont think too much of you.I'm pretty sure you'd rather make your bucks and be respected as a person too.
    this sort of situation exists in any job where you're dealing with the average Bowling-for Dollars citizen. I work in a job that is in no way connected to yours,but I dumb it down at work for the simple reason that if you constantly comport yourself as an intelectual,your co-workers(or customers) will likely see you as arrogant or stuck-up.
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    The comment I most get from guys is that they think my intelegence very sexy, that they find the other girls very fake and they can feel relaxed around me. The key is to be yourself, but in a sexy way. I never act dumb, but I try to revolve most converstation around sexy and fun topics. I have graduate degree, guys love that, they find it extremely sexy that you have substance beyond looking pretty which gives you the edge over others. I try not to talk about my studies in any detail, but I like to mention it in passing converstion. In my experance only dumb wankers are threatened by my intelegence, I generally dont click with them anyway. I'll leave them for the bimbos. Best advice: find your niche market and find ways of best atracting these customers. I would say that I attract more mature educated men, I can easily spot these kinds of men on the floor, I will talk to them rather than waste my time on dumb jocks who are just going to piss me off anyway. We all have different natural assets, use them!

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    Ruby I find your "intelegence" very sexy myself...if only your spelling was as good as your lapdances sexy girlfriend-xx

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    I have 2 bachlores degrees, and I am working on a masters degree. whenever i go to a club and I find a girl that I can have intelegent conversation with, I get so caught up in that i forget I'm at a strip club. The super dumb girls, I give a few bucks to and tell them I'm not interested in a dance so they will go away quickly. I like a girl who can hold a conversation, but not get me thinking about politics or economics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dafushpu
    I have 2 bachlores [sic] degrees, and I am working on a masters degree. whenever i go to a club and I find a girl that I can have intelegent [sic] conversation with, I get so caught up in that i forget I'm at a strip club.
    And then what? You pay them hugely? How does making you forget that you are in a strip club advantage the poor girl at all?
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