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    Some of the comments on this topic have been good and some are not so good. I am a regular at a club and I spend a decent amount of cash in the club when I go. I dont really care on how I dress. I dont go to the club with some torn up sneakers with paint on them. But I do go to the club in casual clothes as if I was going out to a bar or something. But I have gone to the club in a white t-shirt and jeans. People do have dress down days. I am in the early 20's and wear a rolex and a heavy gold chain. But I dont keep my money out and flash it around. In fact I keep all the small bills in one pocket and the larger bills in the other. I go their to have a good time and let the girls come to me. If they dont come to me then they take the loss and I more money to tip the next girl that does.

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    Some "millionaires" can be total cheapos too.

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    I assume that there's no universal giveaway - rather, if you're labeling, you go with the averages that you've learned for a given presentation.

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    You make a good point Sumotek. I've gone dressed pretty nicely all but once, the last time I went (clean, plain white t, and nice jeans). I have never had as many girls approach me as I did that night. I didn't understand it. The time before, I had gone in nice jeans, shoes, and a nice dressy shirt. I was standing with $170 in my hand and got approached maybe twice. Didn't matter, I spent it the next time. I learned a lesson and will start dressing nicely, but for comfort.
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    Thats how I see it. I like to go comfortable and relax. Thats the whole point of going to the club, to sit back and relax and enjoy yourself and be free. If I wanted to dress up and worry about what to wear then I will just go to work. But thats only my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tampafldancer
    feel the fabric of his shirt. Nice shoes?

    Also, you can tell the first 2 minutes talking to him, whether he has money or not, and if he has a problem with spending it.

    If he's a braggard, make him show you the money!!
    The fabric of his shirt? All my shirts are cotton. I have not worn a silk shirt since HS ( and I'm ashamed of that). I am white and at 28, I make close to 6 figures, but when I'm in a club you'll never know it. It's a polo and khakis, fossil watch cause I'm not wearing suits and my omega at 11pm on any day. I'm not going flash my money clip in there, I know how much I got on me.
    I usually go by myself and alot of the times I do not get approached. If you are not going to approach me cause I'm wearing a 50 polo and pants then it's your loss not mine. plus lap dances really do not do anything for me. I still have not figured what I'm suppose to do besides look like a freaking rock.

    Ie I went in, had a beer and tipped a girl 300 for talking to me for 20 min after I had a bad day at work. She came after me saying she did want to take my paycheck. I just laughed and said something and walked out.

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    I avoid hispanics as well. I hate to sound racist, but from experience hispanics don't have the money to spend (or just don't want to). Arabs want to take advantage and are very aggressive, and indians are also too aggressive. I try to avoid all three groups, unless they come up to me and ask for a dance. If they ask I flat out tell them, "No touching" before the dance. They ALWAYS back out after I say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desiree

    On a similar token, how many times have I gone to the mall in my sweatpants, walked into Nordstroms with over a grand in cash that I intend to spend, and walked out without buying a single thing -- just because the sales people judged me on my appearance and assumed since I was young and not well dressed, that I wouldnt spend any money.

    Who knows.......
    This happens to me all the time! I have to get dressed up just to go out shopping, or out to eat with my boyfriend. It especially bothers me when a waiter or waitress says "What would you like to drink? We have coke products." Then we'll order alcohol, and they start huffing and puffing because they have to check our IDs. There goes their tip.

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    I know plenty of rich guys who think dancers owe it to them to sit with them without spending a dime. I never quite liked the suit and tie guy, and usually do better with the middle aged blue collars, and the construction worker types. Some guys simply come in to flatter themselves, and see how many girls they can get to approach them, I don't think there is a certain attire that spells that out for us dancers. I try to look for guys who are making eye contact, who specifically come up to my stage, and seem to have a general interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bambiblue
    I know plenty of rich guys who think dancers owe it to them to sit with them without spending a dime. I never quite liked the suit and tie guy, and usually do better with the middle aged blue collars, and the construction worker types. Some guys simply come in to flatter themselves, and see how many girls they can get to approach them, I don't think there is a certain attire that spells that out for us dancers. I try to look for guys who are making eye contact, who specifically come up to my stage, and seem to have a general interest.
    Same here! I always do better with the blue collar guys. Many (not all, but a great number) of the suit and tie guys are cheap and have a condescending attitude towards the dancers. I found that they're the ones who usually ask the annoying questions that I don't like to hear (i.e. "How much money do you make?" "Don't you think you're degrading yourself by doing this?" "Do your parents know you do this?"). I've seen many suit and tie guys go into clubs and not tip a single girl or buy a single dance. I don't work in upscale clubs-many of the clubs around here look like regular bars that just happen to have a stage and naked girls walking around-and most of the customers do not dress up to go out to the strip club. Therefore, if a customer wears a suit and tie to a strip club, he knows that girls will approach him because it looks like he has money. I know in bigger cities that sometimes guys wearing suits will spend a lot of money, but around here I've found them to be cheap and rude about 75% of the time.

    You can never judge a book by its cover. I've approached guys who I initially thought wouldn't spend money, and lo and behold, they ended up getting dances from me.

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    Therefore, if a customer wears a suit and tie to a strip club, he knows that girls will approach him because it looks like he has money

    I am usually in a suit and tie when I go to a strip club b/c I am in town on business, and stop in the club on my way to my hotel. I usually don't feel like going back to my hotel to change clothes. I don't think I'm a patronizing snot to dancers, or that I have an attitude, although I guess that's for others to say.

    BTW, the one time that I did stop at my hotel first, and change into casual clothes, I got virtually no attention at the club. About two months later, back in the same town on business, I returned to the club in a suit and had non-stop company. Books and covers...

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    [QUOTE=tampafldancer]feel the fabric of his shirt. Nice shoes?
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    Shirt fabric is always one I subscribe to. You can tell the difference between Gucci and Targay easily and generally speaking, guys who like to afford nice things for them selves, do tend to take care of those around them too. As per shoes, the easy givaway is the sole of the shoe. A dress shoe can be very deceiving from a distance. Look at the sole if you can. Rubber vs. leather is usually a sign of quality and price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fearless
    The fabric of his shirt? All my shirts are cotton. I have not worn a silk shirt since HS ( and I'm ashamed of that). I am white and at 28, I make close to 6 figures, but when I'm in a club you'll never know it. It's a polo and khakis, fossil watch cause I'm not wearing suits and my omega at 11pm on any day. I'm not going flash my money clip in there, I know how much I got on me.
    I usually go by myself and alot of the times I do not get approached. If you are not going to approach me cause I'm wearing a 50 polo and pants then it's your loss not mine. plus lap dances really do not do anything for me. I still have not figured what I'm suppose to do besides look like a freaking rock.

    Ie I went in, had a beer and tipped a girl 300 for talking to me for 20 min after I had a bad day at work. She came after me saying she did want to take my paycheck. I just laughed and said something and walked out.

    Lol, i didn't say i wasnt going to approach someone with a polo shirt on!
    Only that I know designers very very well. "usually" men that spend money on their appearance have the money for the club. This is not restricted to their clothes. Manicured nails, business shoes and for some reason MED LENGTH hair with style. Nice white teeth.

    HOWEVER.. i am LEAST likely to approach someone bumming or someone who has a white t and jeans. They MAY have money, but ill take my chances. If they throw a good tip on stage i will approach them.

    I don't like to waste my time... and i have had more luck with men that have the qualities that i just mentioned.

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    Oh.. And Im Not Talking About A Silk Shirt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grove542000
    Therefore, if a customer wears a suit and tie to a strip club, he knows that girls will approach him because it looks like he has money

    I am usually in a suit and tie when I go to a strip club b/c I am in town on business, and stop in the club on my way to my hotel. I usually don't feel like going back to my hotel to change clothes. I don't think I'm a patronizing snot to dancers, or that I have an attitude, although I guess that's for others to say.

    BTW, the one time that I did stop at my hotel first, and change into casual clothes, I got virtually no attention at the club. About two months later, back in the same town on business, I returned to the club in a suit and had non-stop company. Books and covers...
    I AGREE. and Half the time i don't approach men in suits.(besides the women are usually all over that type of guy when he walks in) Its usually a guy with 'nice' casual clothes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by grove542000
    Therefore, if a customer wears a suit and tie to a strip club, he knows that girls will approach him because it looks like he has money

    I am usually in a suit and tie when I go to a strip club b/c I am in town on business, and stop in the club on my way to my hotel. I usually don't feel like going back to my hotel to change clothes. I don't think I'm a patronizing snot to dancers, or that I have an attitude, although I guess that's for others to say.

    BTW, the one time that I did stop at my hotel first, and change into casual clothes, I got virtually no attention at the club. About two months later, back in the same town on business, I returned to the club in a suit and had non-stop company. Books and covers...
    Sorry, I guess what I was trying to say didn't come across very clearly. I don't think that all guys who come to the club wearing suits and ties act like jerks-I've just come across many who do. Not many guys wear suits to the clubs around here and I've found that some of the guys who do wear suits are trying to get a bunch of attention for free. I'm sure you are not a patronizing snot and you treat the dancers with respect. I know what you mean about dancers going up to the guys in suits right away and ignoring the guys who are casually dressed; I see it all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine
    It depends on your area too. Sometimes the scruby dressed guys are the ones with money to spend. The customer I'm made the most money off so far had a lower salary than most other customers but was simply willing to spend. It's not how much they make or have. It's how much they mind spending.

    Strongly Agree!!!

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    I agree with Tina, you ought to be approaching everyone. However, if it is a very crowded night
    you may have to prioritize. I have had great success with biker types, truckers, and business
    men. Guys alone, in suit and tie, or overweight can spend well too. But I find it is best to
    avoid those spending excessively on hard alcohol (because that's their main interest, not
    the dancers) and the young punks (usually dressed as rappers or with ball caps) who have
    no money or want something for nothing. I have often found it instructive to sit back on
    occassion and simply observe the club. I've seen customers make it very obvious that they
    are bored and desperately want attention (and are just begging to pay for it) while they
    are continually ignored by dancers and even waitresses. And I've seen dancers sitting with
    customers who I know will waste most of the dancer's night without any real tips. I recommend
    that you take the time to simply observe people... you might learn something. Some dancers
    are anti- whatever ethnicity (possibly from bad experiences). But you can't afford to let
    some prejudice get in your way. Especially you should be approaching the disabled customers
    or those who are challenged in the looks department. Those grateful customers could be
    your best payday. That said, I have had problems with language barriers... Spanish speaking
    customers who supposedly did not understand how much the dance would be, etc. No
    problem: when in doubt simply get the money up front.

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    I usually say hi to everyone. I call myself the welcoming commity. Guys like this. Even if they won't get a dance from me, they usually tip me on stage because they think I'm nice. Never fails.

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    I suspect that my black male counterparts, college age like me, who dress like it's 2 degrees outside, are stingy and want to get more bang for their buck. I find this to be common, that strip clubs to them are just peep shows. I also find that they're more inclined to buy drinks than dances for some reason. I think they think the dances aren't worth the money, which is weird because they'll spend $18 to buy me a double shot... when they could have paid $10 for a table dance. But this isn't always true either because I made $30 in stage tips alone from one set, from just one black male customer a couple nights ago.
    there's that stereotype about hispanics in trade work clothes, but that's not always true either. today two hispanic men came in with paint on their jeans, obviously manual laborers, but they spent more than their Brazilian friend. the Brazilian shamelessly acted like he was at the movies, like he had paid his fee to get in and was just gonna sit and watch. then he claimed to be gay. I'm glad I wasn't on that shifty shift.

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    I've had good and bad experiences with every ethnicity. In Texas, we have lots of casually dressed tech geeks and contractors that are outdoors all day. Lots of money.

    There are Messicans with money, and some without. Men from a macho culture in groups tend to be a bit more rowdy in groups, so just be wary. The groups also love it when you "discipline" the guy getting the dance. This is not only for latin cultures you know.......

    The one good rule to follow is to look for a gentleman sitting alone, and to choose the ones scanning first. Sometimes guys sitting alone are shy and require you to take the initiative...

    All of this profiling by race and shirt threadcount is a bunch of hoooey.......

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