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    How to sell to under 21s ....

    Okay... it's "that time of year" again.... Schoolies.

    All the strip clubs are inundated with 18-20 year olds who have just graduated high school. They also come in groups of 4 or more. They stay for the equivalent of 3 dancer stage sets (stage sets at my club are 4-5 songs long or 15 minutes). They always sit front row stage-side or try to get as close to the stage as possible.

    The stage is more of a show stage than anything as all dancers are required to be full nude by their 4th/5th (last) song. Therefore any tips that the dancers do receive are mainly for showing your appreciation that she is providing a good show (even tho' I will give them a minute or two of a show that is aimed in their specific direction).

    Now... my questions are many.

    How do the older dancers (I'm talking 25 yrs "young" and older) approach these young guys ? Especially when they are in a group ? How do you sell to them ?

    My main problem right now (as per my rant) is that I don't feel like I can relate to them. I don't have patience for their immaturity. I feel too much like a Mrs Robertson with them.

    I just need help in order to sell (at least) a $50 dance to them. How should I tailor my sales "pitch" and technique to this younger crowd ?

    My usually "target market" is guys who are 24-25yrs old or OLDER... and since the club during the next two weeks won't have too many of these guys... I need some assistance so I can make some half-way decent money each shift.


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    Default Re: How to sell to under 21s ....

    its mrs robinson lol

    i know the guy that owns our local porn shop
    he says college guys buy milf stuff

    many guys will be up for anything if they have the cash but are too scared to ask
    usually if u go over and b.s. with the group they will become comfy and be more likely to get a dance

    if anyone tips you go over and politely say thankyou., even if their sitting with a girl
    Carpe Diem!

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    My advice, given my experience with younger guys. (I prefer not to deal with 18-20 y/os. I can't connect with them either, but some of them aren't bad.)

    First, they're new to all this. High pressure will probably scare them off. You need to come across as unintimidating as possible. In order to be unintimidating, you need to be able to joke and bullshit with them. Younger guys like attention, and they also like to laugh, usually at other people. One tactic a girl I knew used to use in situations like that would be to visibly tease or slightly embarrass one of the guys. Not enough to upset him, but in a way that shows he's getting more attention. (Like the way you'd tease a bachelor, but not as intense.) Then she'd kiss him on the cheek, and tell him that she'd see him later. This would get the other guys teasing him a little, but after her set, she'd come down and plop herself into his lap. She basically succeeded in breaking the ice and making herself "one of the guys" all in one fell swoop. After that, she'd just see which one was the most eager, and work him over for a dance. (By the way, she was 34. These kids *never* cared.)

    Second, you only need to get one of them. Young guys talk, and talk a lot. If you get one of them, after you dance, walk with him back to the group. Mess up his hair a little bit or something. Some sort of visual sign to his friends that he *must* have had a good time downstairs. That way, even if he's the quiet type who might not tell his friends what a great time he had, they'll sort of know anyways. Once you get one of them, don't leave the group until you've tried to get dances from the others. Once you have one, the others generally follow.

    Big things to look out for with kids. . . They usually can't afford more than a couple dances, or if they can, they might not be as willing to spend. So don't spend an hour with a group and expect a lot for it. They also don't necessarily know the rules of the club. Remind them before you start dancing for one of them.

    Basically, you can use their immaturity to your advantage. You're a pretty girl, and guys like pretty girls. Let them tease each other while you sit there looking pretty. You don't really even have to say a word. They aren't generally like older men or regulars who want conversation. They're more instant gratification. Try to get one of them downstairs as quickly as possible. If you stay too long, they might get rapidly bored of you, but if one of them really likes you, you can let them pressure each other into more dances, for your benefit.

    The phrase "Oh, but your *friend* here got a dance from me. . . " comes to mind. . .
    "All the world's a stage, but the play is badly cast." - Oscar Wilde

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    Doooooood! I sell a ton of dances to the younguns! Often take all the money in their wallets They LOVE the idea of a hot older chick, more experienced, more horny (they think), etc. Most say they think I'm about 25-27 (I dunno if they're lying and I really don't care) so obviously they know I'm several years older than them just by looking at me. They LIKE it.

    The key to selling to them is first getting their attention (like any other customer). As previous poster said, they are often intimidated in the SC (many times it's their first experience) and the easiest way to get their attention is to just go over and chat them up a bit. The fact that you're a FEW years older than them shouldn't matter to you - pretend they're old dudes if you have to.

    Sheeeeeit - I'm 13 years older than an 18yo, just a bit less than DOUBLE their ages. The ones I dance for seem to like having me dance for them better than the young girls.

    I would venture a bet that the reason the younger girls make more money than you from these guys is they approach them more than you do. My advice would be to approach all of them as fast as you can. Spend less time chatting them up than you would the older guys. Be friendly, flirty, etc. Pop the question fast and if you get a no, move on asap. You can get away with this much easier when the club is full of young guys! Use it to your advantage. The more guys you ask the more chances you have at making a sale.

    Good luck!

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    Yes and I agree with Miss Six about working the groups. You may only get 1 dance from a guy, but if you work the whole group you can often get 1 from each member of the group, which does add up. As she said, make sure that once you've gotten one, you "work him over" and then escort him back to the group table. Most likely the others will want to try you out in turn. I get this alot as well.

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    this makes me laugh....not b/c you are asking this question, but by what happened with me and a young guy last spring.

    we get a ton of high school graduates (since i am at the beach), and they all have at least one credit card...for an emergency from their parents. i usually get the quieter guy of the group....or the one that just looks at me with wide eyes but seems not to be the ring leader of the group. when i do my stage show, i go over and flirt by calling them "virgins in pink shirts" (under 21 has to wear a pink shirt) and they all try to act all grown up....which makes it easier for me to get a table dance.

    this one time specifically, i gave the boy a table dance, and then asked if he would like a couch dance. and then he could enjoy my dance without all the eyes of his friends. the quiet ones of the group usually go for that. i did a few dances for him, and he started asking about the club...i told him about upstairs (our VIPs) and how i think it funny how men in this town get a lot of golf lessons. then he asked what i meant...how the credit card says "golf and travel". lol.....and no lie, he said "i do have my parents credit card".

    after our VIP time was over, i told him that he had better hope his Dad hasn't had Golf lessons here either. he might have gotten in trouble, or could have a nice little secret with his dad.

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    LOL golf lessons. I visited Tens in NYC as a customer in 2000, and I remember my ccbill showed "Ideal Restaurant". Heh, I thik the golf thing is even better LOLOL!

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    Ack! Tens! The very first club I worked at in NYC in the early '90's! Ack! Bet it was dead there in 2000.

    As for the younger guys, I often feel that I get dances from them, because yeah, they do like confident good looking chicks no matter what their age. I also think that it's easier for me to get dances from them because so many other girls won't approach them at all....so when I go up and ask them for a dance, they are more likely to say yes because they aren't having that many girls approach them.

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    I prefer to be dominant and in charge with them. Also, I like to crack jokes and make fun of them the way they do to each other, be one of the boys. They are very impressed with this funny, cool, take no bullshit chick.

    Give the first one a dance they'll never forget and they will be happy to "pass you around". I do great with young guys. Don't sit around with them at all or they won't spend.

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    I normally don't approach guys that are in large groups unless they are military boys. Military guys may be young, but they are always sweet, polite, and have money to spend. What else are they going to spend it on? Hehe. They don't get out much, and some of them literally save all the money they have for the strip club. They really crave female attention, and I play into that.

    One bonus about young guys is that since they aren't as into conversation and bullshitting as the older guys, it is really easy to sell a dance quickly. A lot of the time you can just walk up and ask them for a dance after less than a minute and they'll say yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brittany
    Ack! Tens! The very first club I worked at in NYC in the early '90's! Ack! Bet it was dead there in 2000.
    Only went one night as a customer with friends, it was a weekend night, but it was rockin. Girls were walking around with huge wads of cash and funny money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emilybelle
    i told him about upstairs (our VIPs) and how i think it funny how men in this town get a lot of golf lessons. then he asked what i meant...how the credit card says "golf and travel". lol.....and no lie, he said "i do have my parents credit card".

    after our VIP time was over, i told him that he had better hope his Dad hasn't had Golf lessons here either. he might have gotten in trouble, or could have a nice little secret with his dad.
    That's so bizarre since our club processes credit card and ATM transations through "Philadelphia Golf and Travel"....we are owned by the Pure Gold chain that's also in Myrtle Beach. I think you probably are somehow related to them too. How cool....I will have to use that line.
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    I'm so glad I asked.... there is some great info. that will prove to be helpful for me here.

    Thank you so much


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    emily....yep, i do believe that is our chain as well. is it a crazy horse?

    that line works on all ages of men. b/c the last thing a wife wants to hear about is golf lessons. when one of my exs would go to golf outings, i would tune him out when he tried to tell me about it.

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    I think all the Pure Gold/Jerry Reid clubs use that golf and travel. I don't ever use my cc at the clubs but when you order drinks at PG in Cary they will bring you a receipt and it says Cary Golf and Travel.

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