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    I've done a search, but didn't find much on St Louis clubs that was useful and can't access the club reviews currently.
    I need info on St Louis clubs, the level of contact, club fees and any other details which may be useful for someone who's going there to know. A list of clubs might be helpful... (-: Is it possible to work in the clubs without a work visa / residency etc? Are there any other towns / cities close enough to work which might be better?

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    This is the best I can do. I live near st. louis. I'v heard that these are some of of the best. except for roxy's wich is high contact. pt sports is topless, and diamonds, is where the model type girls work. mad cap is a custy from there, and might know a little more then i do. there is larry flints hustler club in washinton park, but the house fees are high.

    http://www.ptsshowclub.com/clubs/stlouis/index.html

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    Thank you Katharine - that's something to start with!!! (-:

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    All the clubs in the St Louis area worth working at are on the Illinois side of the river. PT's owns 5 clubs: 2X in Sauget (right across from the arch) Diamond cabaret and PT's Sports. 2X are in Brooklyn (about 5 mi N of downtown on Rt 3) Platinum and Roxys. The original PT's is in Centreville about 10 mi E of downtown. Washington Park is where most of the competition is located but the best club there is Hustler. All in all there 12 clubs in the ESL area.

    I have known girls that worked here without paperwork but its haard to say what the boys in the office will ask for this week. I know we had a run of paperless russian girls recently.

    Contact level in ESL is moderate with lap dances being done topless w/G-string and full friction. Customer touching is up to the dancer but the more you allow ...the more cash you make.

    Tipouts are usually 5% Bar/5%DJ/10%house.

    Just out of curiousity ...Why HERE?
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    Default Re: St Louis, Missouri

    all clubs in east st.louis
    try searching illinois.
    i heard theres a deja vu there.
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    Dj,

    thank you, for all that information, but do you know anything about deja vu, jade talks about?

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    Wow,
    This is really convient for me because I just moved to St.Louis and was about to start a similar thread.
    I only want to work topless. I worked in a gown club in california so If there is a gown club here that would be nice because I don't really have the money right now to go out and buy all new outfits.
    I would appreciate any info on clubs that anyone recommends.
    Which club's don't do extra's.

    Any info. is appreciated.
    I have been stressing because I don't know if it would be better to go to Diamonds first or go to a smaller, more low- stress club first since I am already stressed enough and would perfer not to have to work at a place where my nails have to be a certain color and my toenails must match this.
    Plus, Diamonds makes you cover tattoo's (I have two small one's)
    Has anyone recently worked at diamond's or PT's?
    Or have any info on them?
    Are the girls there welcoming to the new girls?
    I am really excited to see this thread thanks for starting it Aussie


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    Deja vu owns the Hustler Club in Washington Park. Many of the Deja vu clubs have become Larry Flynts Hustler Clubs in a co-marketing agreement between Flynt and the vu. Its a decent club with all the typical deja vu problems.

    This club originally started as the Jewel Box and was purchased by deja vu when the guy who started it went to jail for bank fraud (Bank didnt know he was building strip clubs with his loan proceeds). There have been a few moderate profile prostitution busts there but you would have to understand Washington Park politics. Probably over now. There are 4 other clubs in Washington Park but Hustler is by far the classiest.
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    Isn't there a newer club called hollywood right next to hustler?
    Do you have any info about that club?


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    Magdalena: At Diamond it is extremely difficult to get hired right now. Also it isnt a gown club and it isn't just topless in the perspective you may be used to. For topless you have to look on the Missouri side. Big Louies in St Robert is the best but its quite a drive and still NOT a gown club. Im not sure we have any gown clubs in Missouri or S. Illinois.
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    Oh, and DJ do you know anything about the ''requirments'' to work at diamonds? Do they still have all those physical requirements?
    When I lived here in St.Louis before they hired me but gave me a long list of ridicoulous rules so I ended up going to Hustler to work instead which was a great place to start out at.It was very relaxed compared to Diamonds. The girls there were really nice and they have spinning poles which was nice for a begginer.
    Plus, they did not even make me audition which was a relief because I was so nervous because I had never danced before.
    One of the managers named John just hired me on the spot and told me to start the next day.
    Everyone there was great. The D.J was the best he would play what the girls wanted and did not expect tips. I cant remember his name but I remember how nice he was.
    Also, parker the manager was really sweet.
    I have no complaints about that club.
    And would work there again were I not in a relationship.
    My BF and I both feel uncomforatable with full nudity so that's why im trying to find out about the topless clubs.
    But I would recommend hustler to anybody who has no problem dancing nude.

    There was a thread on St.Louis clubs does anyone know where it went?


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    Hollywood isn't that new but its kind of a cross between Hustler and Dollies. I would hate to recommend anyone work in this club but .....YMMV. Bed dances just don't seem right to me in a full nude club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_WuLf
    Magdalena: At Diamond it is extremely difficult to get hired right now. Also it isnt a gown club and it isn't just topless in the perspective you may be used to. For topless you have to look on the Missouri side. Big Louies in St Robert is the best but its quite a drive and still NOT a gown club. Im not sure we have any gown clubs in Missouri or S. Illinois.
    Why is Diamonds so hard to get hired at right now?
    My friend has a friend who works there and she said her friend has a 10 body but a 2 face and that most of the girls on night shift look alike. Blonde hair, super skinny and huge implants.
    I have also heard that the manager has turned down a few girls that were pretty enough, had catalog modeling and other modeling experience saying something like ''We only hire features''.
    Is there just a surplus of girls right now? Or is managment really that picky?
    They hired me before but that was over a year ago.
    Anyways, diamonds does not seem like it's worth all the trouble.
    What is the big deal about that club?

    Thanks for all the info DJ
    Is PT's as snobby as Diamonds?
    And what about the platinum club is it clean?


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    Yes Diamond still has all those ridiculous rules and you will never see a pole of any kind there. Thats why the dances are $40 at Diamond and $25 at Hustler.

    You might try PT's Sports (Behind Diamond). I Know they are hiring and the "rules" are less strict.
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    Thanks DJ. I will check out PT's.
    Do they have poles?
    Also, if you don't mind my asking where do you work at?


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    A favorite joke at Diamond is to call the blonde with the big tits to the phone and watch 3/4 of the dancers run to answer it.

    The earnings potential at Diamond is really that much better so that may be the reason for the "snobbiness". Truth is that Diamond has considerably more dancer staff then dressing room space.
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    Magdalena_666

    I called pt sports and they told me they were a topless only bar, with g- string... that is where i want to go, very soon i hope. i dont live very far off from it. How long to you plan to stay in st. louis? are you going to audition soon? pm me if you need an audition buddy. maybe we can work something out.



    Dj where do you work at now?

    also, d.j. what are the girls like at pt sports? and is it hard to get hired on there? i was aloso concidering pt's in centerville. it is a full nude, and you can audition there anytime you want.I dont think thier rules are very strict, but have heard the contact level is rather high, wich is why i was leaning more towards pt sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katharine
    Magdalena_666

    I called pt sports and they told me they were a topless only bar, with g- string... that is where i want to go, very soon i hope. i dont live very far off from it. How long to you plan to stay in st. louis? are you going to audition soon? pm me if you need an audition buddy. maybe we can work something out.



    Dj where do you work at now?

    also, d.j. what are the girls like at pt sports? and is it hard to get hired on there? i was aloso concidering pt's in centerville. it is a full nude, and you can audition there anytime you want.I dont think thier rules are very strict, but have heard the contact level is rather high, wich is why i was leaning more towards pt sports.
    Katherine,
    Don't go to centerville. From what I have heard it's not a very nice place at all.
    I sent you a pm. I plan on going up to P.T's to check everything out before I actually audition.
    Just to see the atmosphere, customers, girls, stages, ect...
    I want to make sure I get a good vibe before I actually decide that's where I want to work.
    Maybe we can go up there together?
    And since diamonds is right across the way maybe we can stop in and see what all the damn fuss is about.
    When I wnt there before it was nothing compared to the club I worked at in california.
    So maybe that will make it less intimidating.
    From what I have heard and from my own experience though I really don't think I would like working there.
    I want to work in a fun, easy going atmosphere.
    The less bullshit I have to deal with the better


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    magdela

    I sent you a pm before i saw you'r post. yes. i think checking out the clubs as custies would be a nice idea. I say lets do it.lets set a date. it will be fun. we can venture on over to diamonds as well, . Have you packed your dancer bag yet? we might want to take ours along, just incase.


    thanks for the pm. i will get back to you on this a little more later. and let me know if you find out anything else.
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    Thanks for the info!


    >Tipouts are usually 5% Bar/5%DJ/10%house.

    Just out of curiousity ...Why HERE?[/QUOTE] <

    Lol - I have friends I want to visit in St Louis.

    The tipping thing is new to me - dancers have to tip the bar, dj and what exactly is house?! (-:

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    This threads getting interesting but confussing me.
    Please update with any clubs you visit Magdelana!

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    Aussie, "house" is the club. Meaning at this club you pay 10% of your earnings to the club.

    This thread is getting interesting to me too, I'm interested in any club where dances are $40 and it's difficult to get hired! DJ, I'd like to know how they feel about travelling dancers and what is the real earning potential there. Not pie in the sky inflated numbers, but if you're getting 5% from the girls, you ought to have a good idea what they're making. Feel free to PM any sensitive info

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    but if you're getting 5% from the girls, you ought to have a good idea what they're making. Feel free to PM any sensitive info







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    At the MOMENT the schedule is full (and the dressing rooms are running over) at Diamond where the dances are $40 so its VERY difficult to get hired there right now. Traveling dancers are automaticaly refered to the PT's sister club next door... PT's Sports Cabaret.

    Along with this overcrowding of dancers comes DECREASED Earnings per dancer due to sheer numbers. Its always been this way in Oct thru Dec (and Jan-Feb to pay off those bills) due to girls working for Xmas cash but this year is especially crowded ..... evidence of the bad economy IMHO.

    The potential is there, at Diamond, to make $1000/night but the average is more like $200-300/ night. Funny thing is that girls at PT's 4 sister clubs are averaging close to the same. Only the Peak earners are less at the other clubs.

    Honestly the "market" hasn't changed much in STL and Its not that much different from Houston or Tampa. The real difference here (over past years) is the number of girls who are willing to dance totally nude and "do" high contact lap dances. It amazes me how many of these girls now want to dance because its "Cool" rather than because they need the money. Thnx to Pam Anderson, Carmen Electra, Brittney Spears and many others for making stripping mainstream.
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    Magdelena & Katharine: PT's Centerville club is OLD and it hosts Swingers night on Saturdays (Has for 20 years) so it gets the rep of being ....not so nice.... but actually its one of the most laidback clubs with the BEST Regular population and good earnings potential. Roxy's is almost as old as Centreville and in a MUCH worse part of town. Sauget (where Diamond and Sports are located) is mostly industrial and fairly safe.

    Sports and Diamond are what we call Semi-Nude because G-strings are allowed to the knees. Not really just topless. Remember that PT's owns all 5 clubs (Diamond, Sports, Platinum, Centreville, and Roxy's). I think the BS is worse at Sports than Diamond. Least BS at Centreville or Roxy's with Platinnum falling inbetween.
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