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    I had been discussing the way in which the media has been handling this 'War on Terror' with my girlfriend, when I made the observation that FOX news was basically propaganda. This lead to a rather heated but friendly debate.

    Then, during Thanksgiving, I actually had the dubious pleasure of watching FOX News in the home of a staunch Bush supporter (my father), who prefers to get his news from this source.

    Some routine news was on, something or other about the prospects for the retail industry during the upcoming Christmas season, when suddenly, a dramatic musical fanfare stridently commanded the attention of all, followed by a most impressive animation/special effects visual display of a snazzy logo, which spun around and snapped into place with additional sound effects.


    The War on Terror


    This introduction, which was worthy of a Marvel Comics movie title scene, was followed by a plasticised and impeccably groomed female anchor with a cheesy smile, flawlessly delivering the latest update from Fallujah.

    It was downright funny--in a frightening way, and reminded me of the first (and only good) "Robocop" TV News segments, which were blatantly satirical in nature.

    Then came the "fair and balanced" O'Reilly, which was also comical, though not quite so frightening.

    All this talk of the (evil) 'liberal' press bias is kind of pointless, with drivel like this being pumped out and greedily lapped up by millions of American voters.

    While conservative publications like The Wall Street Journal are well worth the time it takes to read them, even (or especially) if one might not always agree with the viewpoint, I can't see the value of FOX News, except possibly to a warmongering and mendacious Administration.
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    Rupert Murdoch has suckered all of these right wingers...man's a genius...

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    Hmm- I like FoxNews because they always have someone from both sides of an issue- thought I find the media corp. in general to be a bit biased towards the rightwing- many of them are run/owned by rightwingers- case in point Sinclair. I give Fox credit for at least trying to show both sides. It must be hard on many reporters and other staff to know that they could lose their jobs for not supporting this bastardly President- thankfully there are still some who risk that in the name of integrity.

    I also like their website the best for a number of reasons. I guess it must be funny that me a staunch liberal, likes FoxNews best - LOL !

    Oh well the world can be a strange place

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    All this talk of the (evil) 'liberal' press bias is kind of pointless, with drivel like this being pumped out and greedily lapped up by millions of American voters.
    Like the palpable disgust on the faces of Rather, Jennings and Blitzer on Election Night?

    Please.
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    Oh so now they aren't even alowed to show expressions that differ with Repubs, eh.

    Like I have repeatedly said the revolting rightwing wants total control over everyone in this country- and apparently that includes their facial expressions.

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    The way I see it, but I don't watch much:

    FoxNews is right wing.
    MSNBC News is right wing.
    NBC news is moderate, somewhat left.
    CNN is left.
    ABC News is left wing.
    CBS News is left wing.

    I have seen any of these news networks conservative and liberal, be tolerant to opposing views, although their overall bias is clear.

    Life goes on.

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    Oh so now they aren't even alowed to show expressions that differ with Repubs, eh.
    They need to stop pretending that they're objective then. For example, Rather all but admitted his undying loyalty to the DNC and his attitude toward the GOP and their personalities was patently clear in interviews.

    He's not fooling anyone anymore.

    Thank Christ for the internet.
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    The report the news C.O - that doesnt mean they cant have personal opinions.

    I know its hard for some you conservatives out there to accept but not everyone agrees with you but sorry, its a fact.

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    Mind control I have experienced over the years:

    Religious people, mostly conservative but a number of liberal, telling me I had to believe a certain way or I wouldn't be saved.
    Drill instructors applying standard brainwashing techniques. Safe to say they were conservative, although politics had nothing to do with it.
    Liberal college professors downgrading my papers if I didn't kowtow to their personal philosophies. (I don't think the school hired conservatives.)
    Police officers, probably mostly conservative, telling me that the posted speed limit was safe and anything about it was not safe.
    Mother and father, one liberal one conservative, schooling me in morals. The liberal one was more controlling.
    News channels, liberal and conservative, conveying the news to me with weighted reporting, trying to influence how I think about a given issue. They all claim to be standards of objectivity ("Fair and Balanced," my ass), while none of them are.

    Through all of this, no one has ever threatened to jail me for believing a certain way, although some religious nuts and college professor wackos seemed to think I should.

    The wish for anyone to have their position become the predominant one is staggeringly consistent. They demonize the opposition, they sanctify their own spokespeople, they form personal hatred for those who successfully promote positions that they disagree with. They belittle the opposition tactics while employing the same tactics themselves.

    Politics is the poster child above the slogan "Same shit, different day."

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    The report the news C.O - that doesnt mean they cant have personal opinions.
    Reporting news is supposed to be objective by its very nature (editorials aside).

    Opinions are subjective by their very nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer
    Like the palpable disgust on the faces of Rather, Jennings and Blitzer on Election Night?

    Please.
    I missed that, since I never watch television, which is basically a venue for commercial propaganda on a massive scale. No wonder it lends itself so well to the dispensation of other forms of it.

    The morons among us try to rationalize this state of affairs by spouting off the usual nonsense about television being "free" (other than a small cable bill every month). Meanwhile, whenever they drive to the store in their GM SUV, buy a box of Wheaties, and stop at Burger King on the way home, they are paying for their propaganda.

    Those huge advertising budgets are shelled out for network television ads, and if the sponsors don't like the programming, they will make their displeasure known by withdrawing those multi-million dollar ads. Guess what the networks do then?

    But getting back to the reaction of Rather, Jennings and Blitzer. If they let their disgust at the reelection of a buffoon who is alienating the entire world show, that was a bad thing.

    At least they didn't choreograph it and jazz it up with special effects.

    I'd sure as hell rather have a drink and engage in civil conversation with any of them, rather than the likes of O'Reilly, though he might be good for a laugh.

    I think Jay Zeno summed it up quite well.

    "Fair and balanced, my ass..."
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    The wish for anyone to have their position become the predominant one is staggeringly consistent. They demonize the opposition, they sanctify their own spokespeople, they form personal hatred for those who successfully promote positions that they disagree with. They belittle the opposition tactics while employing the same tactics themselves.

    Politics is the poster child above the slogan "Same shit, different day."
    A true and wise statement Jay- no surprise there though !
    Last edited by GirlFriday; 12-22-2004 at 06:27 PM.

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