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    Default The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    Right now the club I'm at does not force dancers to go on stage if they don't want to. You can just sell your lap dances all night, which is what I do. Is this common elsewhere? .... I havn't been on stage in 5 months and that's fine with me. I just pay an extra $10 to the dj, as per club policy.

    At your club do you have to dance on stage or can you just work the floor?
    Last edited by 242_fair; 12-06-2004 at 05:25 PM.

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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    my club we have to go on stage, no buying off.
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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    I've never heard of a club that didn't require you go on stage. Now, I have heard of either paying a higher house fee or tipping the DJ to stay offstage. Is that what you mean?
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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    Every club I have worked in required all the dancers to go onstage.

    Most of the clubs had certain dancers who preferred not to, and who would sometimes tip me to let them slide. One club had a profusion of dancers that I was very happy to let slide, as they were most unsuited for the stage in any case (they would hire literally anyone who walked through the door). I confess I would purposely 'forget' to put some of them on, if they seemed inclined to be just as happy working the floor. This may seem callous, but I only did it when they didn't mind anyways, with very rare exceptions--like when the guys were lierally running away from the stage the last time the dancer went up.

    If a dancer was having some kind of problem or crisis, I would almost invariably let her slide, whether or not she tipped me. The last thing I want onstage is a woman who really doesn't want to be there...

    I would always skip a dancer who was in VIP, to allow her to make more money, even if this was forbidden by management (though in that case it would be an exceptionally cool dancer, who was invariably a good tipper as well). This can make the DJ's job very difficult if, as I do, he plans the music carefully to ensure the best performance possible from each dancer by playing music both she and the customers will enjoy, or if he plans the line-up to balance the 'rock' girls with the 'techno' and 'rap' girls. I do it anyways.

    Skipping a dancer in VIP, whether the managers made it an ironclad rule or forbade it utterly, could lead to an entirely different kind of problem, which I have regrettably faced more than I care to think about.

    This is when a distraught dancer comes running up to the DJ booth, screaming at me about how I skipped her. If girls keep track of their position in the line-up by when the other dancers names are announced, and you change the order, chaos can ensue. It requires great patience at times, but I can generally reassure the aggrieved party without too much trouble, especially if I really needed them in the line-up anyways. Some dancers a DJ relies on as being 'crowd-builders', and not putting them onstage would be a bad idea. Even if a dancer was a 'crowd-destroyer' (there are those as well), I would not be so unfair as to deliberately skip her against her wishes--though I have done this on very rare occasions at the one club I mentioned, under extreme duress.

    Most managers wouldn't have noticed if I let them slide anyway, except one smaller club that was having extreme difficulty when I first started, which didn't have many dancers working there until I had been DJing a while and built it up. The other dancers would notice much more frequently, in the smaller clubs, and if they also weren't fond of the stage, but weren't inclined to buy their way off, could make trouble. I never had much problem skipping dancers, or resolving the other dancers' objections.
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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    Where I am the entertainers are on a stage rotation and gotta go up.
    If they want to get skipped,its 25 dollars to the house for each skip.

    Our rotation is followed by the dj and the person in the lapdance room who has the mgr looking over his shoulder at it all night.

    Although im convinced i could take them one on one(they all are in heels),if I took a few bucks from one entertainer to skip and not tell,the other girls who didnt want to go up would all gang up and kick the crap outta me!
    The pure horror of the carnage is what stops me from even thinking about it.

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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    At my club, and most of the Houston clubs I've worked, you can pay the DJ $20 to skip you. I will also throw and extra $10-20 at the end of the night to the DJ for his cooperation.

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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    If we want to get skipped at my club it costs 25 bucks. When I get too drunk, which does happen occasionally, it's worth every penny!!!!

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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    Quote Originally Posted by Pan Dah
    I checked the "No" choice, but that's not exactly true. The answer is really "it depends". Several of the older (club longevity speaking) girls who sell lots of VIP rooms can skip the stage entirely - all night, every night. For everyone else, stage rotation is pretty mandatory, but a well-tipped DJ is still flexible. Like a girl doing an LD can usually get skipped for the current rotation as long as she's busy. And nobody is ever called for the stage if she's in a VIP. From Djoser's post, this sounds like a nightmare for the DJ, but that's how it's worked for years.
    pretty much the same at my club

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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    I only wish we could skip the stage, especially while doing a lengthy private dance session. I hate, hate, hate interrupting the session to get on stage.

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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    I didn't pick an option because the POLICY at my club is everyone goes on stage, but I'm allowed to buy off all the time. I'm the only girl who does it now, NinaDaisy used to. They pretty much let me do my thing so long as I keep quiet about it which is fine with me.

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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    Compulsory to do stage - both at my home club and the one in Rockhampton.

    No buy out. It is all rostered. The dancer manager, the hostess (if she is working), the LD room controller and the GM for the night all have the roster. Oh yeah.. the DJ does as well. (At my home club. The club in Rocky the MC and the DJ - two separate people - have the roster)

    The only way you can skip your stage is one of two ways:

    Give another dancer $20-$30 for her to do your stage (inform the DJ a must!)

    Swap your scheduled stage slot with another dancer (inform the DJ a must!)

    Other than that.. even if you are booked for hours... you have to put the private dance "on hold" to continue it later after your stage show.

    This is why I generally stop hustling for a private lap dance 15-20 minutes prior to my stage. It isn't worth maybe having to hustle for a further 5 minutes.. takes another 5 mintues to get the customer to the room, take his money, tell him the rules and get started... then another 5 minutes to get re-dressed and be backstage in time for the stage. No thank you. Too rushed... therefore I just "develop rapport" without closing the sale at that point with anyone... or else just hang out out back 15-20 minutes before my stage set/slot.
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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    Heh, the managers at my club all have the roster available too, and they are all at least somewhat aware that I buy off, but the one GM (owner's son) doesn't seem to have caught on yet (doesn't keep up with the roster), and once in a while he starts questioning why I haven't been on stage lately so DJ plays a nice little cover game for me. Of course he gets a nice little tip from me at the end of the night. Owner's son isn't there all the time, and the other guys let me get away with it with the understanding that I keep quiet about it and of course I will jump on somebody's no-show stage if I'm in the vicinity and not with a customer at the time. This little favor keeps the mgr types willing to let me slide and gets me a few extra tips and dance leads when I occasionally find myself without a customer Everybody's happy.

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    Stage is a must. Even though I'd rather not.
    Mostly it is a waste of time. Very rarely do girls at my club make much money up there.
    It is one song on the main stage and one song in the "cage" (small stage off to the side), rotated through the group of girls.



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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    If your one of the top money makers, you don't have to go on stage. The stage is a good advertisement for those who need it. I love going on stage, regardless.
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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    Monday through Friday if you are in the club, you must go on stage during the day shift. I prefer it this way. We don't have a schedule so if there are only two girls there, if anyone else shows up it gives us a break (usually.)

    This happened recently. I and one other girl was dancing three songs on the main stage every other set for two hours. Another girl showed up and wasn't going on. I asked her why, and she said she was hungover and smelled like vomit. Don't bother showing up for work hungover if you can't do your job.

    We cannot pay to be skipped, but if you have a good reason and a good rapport with the DJ, he'll let you do it once just to be nice. If we are in the VIP, we still have to go up on stage.

    God help you if you miss a set, because the managers and DJ get really pissed. Can you blame them? It makes them look like an idiot and like they don't know what they are doing.

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    In metro Providence:

    Club 1 (small/nude, one dancer per set): You can skip sets for free if you're in the champagne room.

    Club 2 (small/nude optional, one dancer per set): You can skip sets for free if you're in the champagne room or a private room.

    Club 3 (large/nude optional, 1-2 dancers per set): You can skip sets for free if you have dances.

    Club 4 (large/nude optional, 2-6 dancers per set): You can skip sets for free if you have dances AND there is at least one dancer on the stage. Dancers sitting with customers often ignore their calls to the stage.

    Club 5 (small/topless, 1-2 dancers per set): You cannot skip sets for any reason.

    In club 1, my favorite is a slutty exhibitionist who loves playing with herself deep on stage. We do champagne right after her set.

    In clubs 2-4, my favorites are publicly shy and privately hot, so they offer good deals if I take them off the stage.

    In club 5, my favorite is a trained dancer/gymnast (she wears a thong, not a G) and the crowd appreciates quality, so I actually like that arrangement best. On one hand it's egalitarian, because everyone gets to see her. On the other hand, I get to watch the disappointed faces when she says, "I'm sorry, but I'm taken until my next set."

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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    At my club they SAY you don't have to go on stage, but you have to pay a $60 freelance fee - every other club in the city charges $20 for a stageless dancer

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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    My club you're really not supposed to skip stage, but you can skip if you're in the private dance area - they got mad at me once for not responding to our sister club's call for me to go on stage when I was selling a customer a dance. >.< Since I try to be especially nice to the DJ he'll put me on stage at almost any point in the rotation if, after selling a couple of dances, I'm just sitting around - same with other dancers.
    Baltimore you could only skip at all if you were in a room, you had a one or two song warning so, theoretically, you could finish up lapdancing and go on stage. Sometimes interrupted, sucked, but oh well. We don't tip the DJ ourselves, goes through the bouncers.
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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    Stage is a must at Jiggles, though not a big deal unless you are dancing for a guy who wants to keep going. I've lost a couple. Stage is one song on main and one on back. Not bad.
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    The one thing I didn't like about Baltimore was on a busy night we'd do two or three girls on stage, but you couldn't receive tips from the two side stages [well, you could, but they were set with a 4' difference from you and the customer, so he had to make a large effort], so basically on a busy night you'd get called to stage and would have to dance for two songs for nothing, and then your last one you're stuck doing nothing but tip-dances, so no real show.
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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    Artemis,
    I am sorry, You work at a club called "Jiggles"?????
    LOL ... Interesting

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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    Going on stage is mandatory at my club too. It's annoying-I hate having to stop if I'm doing couch dances at $20 a song to go on stage and make around $5-10 total for three songs (if that).

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    Thanks for all the relipes, ladies!

    I really did not expect to get so many "must do stage" responses. I consider myself very lucky!!

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    Default Re: The 'System' at your club: is the stage a must??

    I work in small town clubs on weekly bookings with 4-6 girls a night so we all go on stage anywhere from once an hour to once every hour and a half with 3 song sets or sometimes 15 minute sets.

    Compared to large big city clubs, guys do tip on stage where I book, and I learned to sell guys off of stage.

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