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    Worth a read, I just ran across it. Any thoughts?
    http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/stripc1.htm
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    Hey Megan!

    Damn, that article didn't have a negative slant to it? Makes it seem like the shittiest job in the world! Thank dog for my club, its so laid back to work. This shit article just gave me motivation to go in today and kickass!!!

    Thanks for the link

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    I read this a couple of years ago and I had forgotten just how tough some of it is to stomach. I know that this is not every dancers story but it certainly gives some insight as to what some women have to go through. Anyone who thinks stripping is easy money should have to read this.
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    Women report that they have to have the right attitude to make money (Ronai 1992).This ordinarily was described as being drunk, high or numb (Forsyth and Deshotels 1997). Others feel it required tolerance. "The ability to ignore customers for just being there." Most women say it is easier when the men are tipping regularly and when they do not have to interact with men intimately. Women acknowledge that strippers measure their worth according to the amount of tips they earn and that they want attention, acceptance, and approval from the customers because it brings money (Futterman 1992).

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    Sheesh Im on the 3rd page and I pretty much knew most of these things already but the author makes it sound like it happens everywhere and they dont have a choice because strippers need to fund their drug habit???? Yea um sure.
    There are girls out there that cant stop that they think its the only thing they can do to survive but as Ive been reading ever sice Ive joined SW that not all women are druggies and have no plans in life. ....And really why does anyone do it because its a hobby..no because for the money. Money to support out kids, buy a house, get a new car etc etc. We all have our reasons and some reasons may not be as conventional as others but that is why we have choices and our own minds.
    But, some of what the author said was true about going into the industry so young. I was part of that statistic. I had no idea what I was getting into but Im smarter and going to do it again. And if I dont like it then eh ..I dont have to do it.
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    Uh, whoever wrote this only interviewed EIGHTEEN women. That is not a true scientific study. I am assuming they all worked at the same club too, which would also skew the results. WHat the hell kind of club would you work at where a guy would THROW A DEAD SQUIRREL at you???

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    They really needed to stratify the dancers in cluster segments. When I did my undergrad in Sociology, we had tons of crappy term papers like this. You can't even get a significant sample size of less than 30 people. Plus, the charting doesn't follow good statistical method. I throw this study out of the window into a vat of sewage....

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    But Katrine, a miniscule sample makes it that much easier to skew the results to fit the examiner's preconceived notions. Let's not let a piddly thing like statistical reliability and accuracy get in the way of justifying preconceived notions.

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    1. The author, stated in the first sentence, is against prostitution. Bias much?

    2. I wish sex workers had an internationally recognized union.

    3. Strip clubs do not have to misogynistic or misanthropic. Positive sexual fantasies are healthy. As a female, I like seeing male dancers. I like the attention of male dancers. I don't think less of the men or think of them as objects. I think of them as fantasies when I am in a club. I think of my cashier as a cashier when I am in a grocery store. Do I stereotype the cashier? How stupid does that sound?

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    I think the author is a bitter old bitch who needs to get laid. Yes all of those things happen but not nearly as much as she makes it sound. Of course it's not easy money but good grief! She makes it sound like we all get raped every time we work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilith
    But Katrine, a miniscule sample makes it that much easier to skew the results to fit the examiner's preconceived notions. Let's not let a piddly thing like statistical reliability and accuracy get in the way of justifying preconceived notions.

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    Yeah I was about to say that - she only used 18 girls in her 'sample'??? That's HARDLY close to a proper sampling of strippers on the whole ugh

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    Uh, whoever wrote this only interviewed EIGHTEEN women. That is not a true scientific study.
    Perhaps in their haste to slag off on stripping and the women that do it, they forgot the meaning of "statistically significant."
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    I emailed the bitch!!!! this is what I had to say ...
    I am a dancer and have been for 3 years. You have no idea what you are talking about. You have no right to write a paper that describes the whole industry using only 18 girls. I am pretty sure that you distorted actuall meanings of dancers testimonies to help make your paper. Striping only leads to prostitution for some, most of them were not exactly nuns before the occupation anyway.
    You have with much intent misportrayed the industry, the employees, the dancers, and the owners. Some clubs may not be nice, but most clubs are not that bad! Girls are not foced to do anything they do not want to do no matter what they tell you. Yes, we are independant contractors, and club owners have every right to make the girls agree to club rules. If they dont like the club rules, nobody is making them work there. Pimps have nothing to do with strip clubs except that is where they often send their girls, that does not mean all dancers have a pimp, I would say that most of them do not.
    This all boils down to , you dont know what the fuck you are talking about, and just because 18 crack heads had a bad experiance, does not mean that the industry is like that, it means that you chose a few crack heads to interveiw.
    I have NEVER done drugs. I do not drink, not even socially. I do not take prescriptions unless prescribed and then I still dont like to take them. I have never done anything that I did not want to do. I have never felt like the owner or manager was trying to take advantage of me, nor other employees of a club. Customers, of course are going to proposition the girls, but they will in any kind of club or bar.
    Maybe you should expand your study objects before you try to make conclusions about an industy as a whole!
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    P.S. if a girls does not want a custy calling them, sending letters ... dont give them your adress and phone number or real name ... Hello!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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    She says in the beginning that she danced 13 years. As I said before, I think she's just a bitter old bitch who needs to get laid. She was probably one of those uptight bitches who couldn't make money so she got a cob up her ass and decided to use her "paper" to slam the industry as a whole.

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    My question is: How did they get the live guinea pig into the club? or the dead squirrel? I've been in some dives, and I've never had anyone throw anything but dollars. I don't know how they danced what with all the crap guys were throwing onstage. Bleh. The whole thing sounds doctored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilith
    But Katrine, a miniscule sample makes it that much easier to skew the results to fit the examiner's preconceived notions. Let's not let a piddly thing like statistical reliability and accuracy get in the way of justifying preconceived notions.

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    I started reading and got so pissed off I had to stop.

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    Interesting. The first time I read this paper was before I discovered Stripperweb. As I read through all of your reactions to the paper I am convinced that the author left out one very important demgraphic when she conducted her interviews: Strong intelligent women who accept both the positives and negatives of this profession and are not looking for anyones pitty. I don't know if it would have altered her pre-concieved notions about the sex industry in general or dancing in particular, but the author should have spent a few weeks reading the back and forth that goes on here before she drew her final conclusions about this industry.
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    okay... I can't even finish reading this.

    If you are a dancer, you have the freedom to CHOOSE where you work and what youre going to put up with. This article makes it sound like we're all a bunch of condemned, drunken crackwhores with no self respect.

    Some people truly have no clue...

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