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    Disturbing news to report - my friend was working last night at The Gold Club in New Orleans when a group of guys that were there throwing money around got arrested. Apparently the had just come from the Hustler Club up the street, where they had just taken a dancer into the champagne room, beaten her, and then taken her money (the money they were spending at the GC).

    While it is obviously never a good idea for a single dancer to go into a private room with a group of guys, this does serve as a reminder that we all need to be very careful. There are a lot of creeps out there, and some of the most successful creeps in history have seemed like nice normal guys.

    I'm glad the club I'm working at has no doors on the rooms and the walls don't go all the way up to the ceiling. But with the music in the club so loud... You can never be too careful.

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    Good point....we should always watch our surroundings and if something sounds to good to be true it probably is. I hope that woman gets better. Thats so sad for some loser to beat a woman for her money. Its upsetting be like you said we should all try to be as safe as we can and trust our gut as well.
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    You know this is why someone should always be stationed at the vip and table dance areas. I too have thought someone was going to try to take my money before. This is why we pay to work. Hope she is ok.

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    WHY was there not a bouncer checking in on this girl? Where I've worked, if there aren't cameras in VIP, there's at least a bouncer or host who checks in periodically. Sounds like she has a big fat lawsuit against Deja Vu in the making. I hope she'll be alright.

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    That really sucks. You gotta be a real sicko (as well as a moron) to beat up a dancer, take her money then spend it at a nearby club.



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    I hope she will sue the club. That's horrible that security is so lazy that the girls don't have a safe working environment.

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    ANY guy that hits ANY WOMAN for ANY REASON deserves to be shot. I hope that the girl in question is alright

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    Where was the bouncer? No one was checking up on her? Sheesh. Be careful guys! Those people deserve to get the hell beat out of them


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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseDelight
    Where was the bouncer? No one was checking up on her? Sheesh. Be careful guys! Those people deserve to get the hell beat out of them
    Ok, so now everyone who reads about this should be asking themselves"could this happen to me at the club i work in?"

    If you say yes or maybe,its time to move and change clubs for your own safety.

    If a club doesnt monitor the private rooms,this is what happens eventually.
    Also rapes and "sex in the champagne room"prostitution or "extras".

    How a group of guys could beat a girl and then make it out of the club alive is beyond me.

    I really hope she is ok and everyone looks at thier own situations in detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adina
    WHY was there not a bouncer checking in on this girl? Where I've worked, if there aren't cameras in VIP, there's at least a bouncer or host who checks in periodically. Sounds like she has a big fat lawsuit against Deja Vu in the making. I hope she'll be alright.
    yah, where were the bouncers?
    the slutty one

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    I agree she should have a helluva lawsuit on her hands. At Hustler Baltimore there's cameras EVERYWHERE and ALWAYS someone checking up. I guess the nola club hasn't done a very good job of overcoming the crappy nola work ethic Not something to fool around with in a SC. I hope she sues the hell outta them and I hope she's alright.

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    Ummm, Carlos I think you need to resize the text in your siggy line hun - it's screwing up the whole page

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adina
    Sounds like she has a big fat lawsuit against Deja Vu in the making.
    Assuming this story is accurate and not just a slam against that club...

    Don't forget that she should sue the bastards that actually attacked her and take them for every penny they have and garnish their wages for ten years once they finish their prison sentences and daily ass rapings. Nobody gets rich, they just smile more.

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    That's really screwed up. Stick to that intuition ya'll use on us so well and everything will be
    alright.

    Hope she gets well soon.

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    You would think with all the cameras around, this stuff should never ever happen. Also, where were the bouncers? I smell big fat lawsuit on the horizon and some nice long prison terms for those assholes.

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    yeah, if bouncers do not know what is going on in all parts of there club at all times and the managers as well, they need to be replaced. I have never worked somewhere that i did not feel safe except Platinum Plus in Memphis, I worked for an hour of so and left.
    If you do not feel completly safe in the club you are at, like Big Green said, you need to find a new club.

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    I had some schmuck try to steal my money at PEC (even though it was all funny money), but I wasn't at all hurt, he was caught and thrown out.

    There are a few rooms at PEC with doors that close and even though there's typically a security guy stationed right outside, you really just never know.

    Deja Vu contracts are so Draconian that they don't allow you to sue for anything. They use the "independent contractor" loophole as a copout. She should sue though. Both the club and the assholes who did that. Though frankly, it's possible this chick is messed up herself. Did she file a police report? If not, why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinaDaisy

    [Company X] contracts are so Draconian that they don't allow you to sue for anything.
    Draconian = unenforceable. Imagine a contract that says "You agree that I can screw with you any way I want and you cannot sue me. Even if I breach the terms of this contract, you cannot sue for breach of contract." This is not a contract, its thuggery. The only term I'd worry about is binding arbitration for disputes. This is enforceable and is very bad. Any excuse a judge can point to to get a matter out of his/her courtroom they will leap at, everytime.

    What would take this type of incident from an average negligence claim covered by insurance to above average is if incidents like this happened before and no corrective action was taken. What would take it to big time would be if the reason no action was taken was to encourage illegal activities and abuses, from which the company profited. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stant
    Draconian = unenforceable. Imagine a contract that says "You agree that I can screw with you any way I want and you cannot sue me. Even if I breach the terms of this contract, you cannot sue for breach of contract." This is not a contract, its thuggery. The only term I'd worry about is binding arbitration for disputes. This is enforceable and is very bad. Any excuse a judge can point to to get a matter out of his/her courtroom they will leap at, everytime.

    What would take this type of incident from an average negligence claim covered by insurance to above average is if incidents like this happened before and no corrective action was taken. What would take it to big time would be if the reason no action was taken was to encourage illegal activities and abuses, from which the company profited. Hypothetically speaking, of course.
    You pretty much hit the nail on the head in describing "company X's" contracts...Do you work for Deja Vu or something?
    "She has written so well, and marvellously well, that I was completely ashamed of myself as a writer...But this girl, who is to my knowledge very unpleasant and we might even say a high-grade bitch, can write rings around all of us who consider ourselves as writers"

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    Actually, it would have to be a civil suit and all she could really ask for is what they stole from her and hospital bills. Everything has to be proven in a court of law and without any witnesses or tape for proof it would be a he said she said type of thing. It would probably cost more than its worth. Even with pursuing a club suit , it would probably work out about the same. Though it it happened again it would be a good case. Its like we pay tons to work at our clubs and noone seems to want to help or protect us, even when we are tipping them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michele1
    Its like we pay tons to work at our clubs and noone seems to want to help or protect us, even when we are tipping them.
    That is a very sad but true statement. Many people related to this industry, on both staff and customer sides of the fence, don't see we dancers as people but rather things. Disposable and replaceable things.


    We must take care of ourselves first and foremost because it's not unlikely that no one else will be there to help us in a time of need.

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    First a caveat that this is really a discussion of a hypothetical matter, since no actual facts are known by any anyone here yet about this potentially fictional incident. I hope it is fictional. However, if this is indeed a false rumor, it could hurt the reputation of a club named in the rumor unfairly. That said...

    Quote Originally Posted by michele1
    Actually, it would have to be a civil suit ...
    I'm sure what NinaD was referring to by the police report was they she should get the facts on an official record, which would of course include witness interviews by the police, and a record of what they found on the perps when they were arrested. All this wonderful evidence gathered by the police could then be used in the civil case.

    ...and all she could really ask for is what they stole from her and hospital bills.
    Hypothetically, given the various scenarios I presented above, she could ask for one hell of a lot more. This type of misunderstanding of the law is precisely why it is important for her to get an evaluation of her case from a good local plaintiff's attorney. Some of the other potential damages she could possibly recover (in this hypothetical) are lost earnings, pain and suffering, and the grand daddy: punitive damages.

    everything has to be proven in a court of law and without any witnesses or tape for proof it would be a he said she said type of thing.
    If the perps are charged and convicted, their liability is a done deal before she even files a lawsuit. Even if they are acquitted, it only take a preponderance of the evidence in civil court to prevail. This means that if 51% of the evidence favors her claim vs. defendants, she wins. Bruises, screaming, the cash the perps took from her....lots of potential evidence. Lastly, even if it is ONLY a he-said/she-said case, the jury's job is to evaluate the credibility of the witnesses, and many factors can be brought into evidence to help evaluate credibility. I don't know the Lousiana evidence rules on this but it can potentially include many unusual things. Recall the taped phone conversations between Scott Peterson and his girlfriend. The tapes contained no admissions by him. This was offered as evidence that he was a frigin liar, i.e. had no credibility. Juries get it right more often than not.
    It would probably cost more than its worth. Even with pursuing a club suit , it would probably work out about the same.
    With a potential punitive damage claim against a large corporate chain, this type of case screams contingency fee. She pays nothing. Of course the attorneys probably get 40-50% of any recovery, and possibly a statutory attorney's fee award. Bet big, win big.

    Its like we pay tons to work at our clubs and noone seems to want to help or protect us, even when we are tipping them.
    You just gave a nice little nugget of excellent testimony (objectionable , but jury friendly)....and that reminds me, add in a damage claim to recover all her tip out and house fees.

    Like I said, I hope this is complete fiction, and that all the clubs in NOLA have great security. If so, this hypothetical incident is still a cautionary tale, and not just for the dancers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brittany
    I hope she will sue the club. That's horrible that security is so lazy that the girls don't have a safe working environment.
    This is absolutely legal grounds for a "retirement" lawsuit. Not only did the club have an obligation to provide security for the dancer against such things, she was being CHARGED by the club for security services !!!!! Of course the retirement aspect not only refers to the amount of pain and suffering damages she should be able to collect, but also because her dancing career will be over if word gets out among clubowners that she brought suit.

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    People think its so easy to sue, I have been involved in several law suits. One was my deceased father who was hit by a drunk driver. It is very hard to get punitive damages anymore ,as well as lost wages. Most states have done away with punitive damages. Basically you can get back for medcal expenses but thats about it. It depends on the case and such but if you are not extremely (like wheelchair bound the rest of your life) and can prove lots of medical expenses and lost wages than forget it.

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    Guaranteed, if she sues then other clubs will immediately take notice and go the xtra mile to ensure that their dancers are more protected. Its revolting that it should even take this kind of thing to make these places be responsible for the safety of their girls. Miss George, if you can convince your friend to hold her club responsible, please, please do it.

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