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    For the first time today, I had a customer do it right...

    You know what I'm talking about, when a girl walks up to you that you have absolutely ZERO interest in, she asks you for a dance, and you say "maybe in a little bit.." she walks away, then you immediately get up and dance with someone else, or otherwise, make her saunter back over to your table 1/2 hour later, only to say "maybe later" again.

    The ballots have been counted, and it's unanimous. We all HATE that. You're NOT going to hurt our feelings, by just saying no thanks...

    I'm proud to say, I had someone do it right today. I walk over, chit chat a bit, then pop the question. He says: "No, thanks hun I'm more into blondes."


    That was that. No harm done, no time wasted.

    To him, and the FEW others like him, I say THANK YOU!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by playboycntrfold
    I'm proud to say, I had someone do it right today. I walk over, chit chat a bit, then pop the question. He says: "No, thanks hun I'm more into blondes."
    Dude's nuts, if he turned you PBCF down. He obviously doesn't have very good taste.


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    ^ No shit.

    Perhaps he's in need of corrective eyewear.
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    thanks guys. If y'all are ever in the SD area, come visit me. No shit.

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    Wow, first off, that dude was an idiot. I prefer brunettes, but when a hot blonde comes up offering a lappy, I usually accept. I'm happy to be getting any kind of attention! I used to have a problem saying "no" when I first started visiting the clubs. I have a problem telling any woman "no". But, when I started spending way too much money on dancers I wasn't really interested in, I learned how to say it real fast. I never ran the "come back later" line to a dancer. I knew I wasn't going to buy a dance from her, so I just learned to say "no, thank you", and give a tip.
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    ooh, I actually appreciate the ones that, when I ask to sit down, they say "no, thanks, I'm fine.," Of course I repeat the question just to make sure that they knowI'm not asking for anything just yet and yes, the "no thanks" is better than stringing me along. I figure they'll find me later if they want me, if not, thanks for NOT wasting my time and being an A.. Because little do they know, but we pass on the news...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSUsb19
    Wow, first off, that dude was an idiot. I prefer brunettes, but when a hot blonde comes up offering a lappy, I usually accept. I'm happy to be getting any kind of attention! I used to have a problem saying "no" when I first started visiting the clubs. I have a problem telling any woman "no". But, when I started spending way too much money on dancers I wasn't really interested in, I learned how to say it real fast. I never ran the "come back later" line to a dancer. I knew I wasn't going to buy a dance from her, so I just learned to say "no, thank you", and give a tip.
    He is an idiot for having a preference and expressing it? I guess what makes him an idiot in your eyes is that he did something that you personally wouldnt. Boy.. what a transgression THAT is.

    Dude... tell me more of what you would do. I would hate to not follow exactly what you would do, which would therefor make me an idiot.

    We all have preferences. I have always failed to see why one person would criticize another merely because they are acting in a way counter to their own behavior. So what if you would react differently?

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    I am sure you're amazing, PBCF.

    But I don't think he's an idiot for clearly stating his preference. One might appeal to him more than the other. It's his fun, his fantasy....I don't see anything wrong in that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by playboycntrfold
    For the first time today, I had a customer do it right...

    You know what I'm talking about, when a girl walks up to you that you have absolutely ZERO interest in, she asks you for a dance, and you say "maybe in a little bit.." she walks away, then you immediately get up and dance with someone else, or otherwise, make her saunter back over to your table 1/2 hour later, only to say "maybe later" again.

    The ballots have been counted, and it's unanimous. We all HATE that. You're NOT going to hurt our feelings, by just saying no thanks...

    I'm proud to say, I had someone do it right today. I walk over, chit chat a bit, then pop the question. He says: "No, thanks hun I'm more into blondes."


    That was that. No harm done, no time wasted.

    To him, and the FEW others like him, I say THANK YOU!!!
    I don't where PBCF caled the guy an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSUsb19
    Wow, first off, that dude was an idiot. I prefer brunettes, but when a hot blonde comes up offering a lappy, I usually accept. I'm happy to be getting any kind of attention! I used to have a problem saying "no" when I first started visiting the clubs. I have a problem telling any woman "no". But, when I started spending way too much money on dancers I wasn't really interested in, I learned how to say it real fast. I never ran the "come back later" line to a dancer. I knew I wasn't going to buy a dance from her, so I just learned to say "no, thank you", and give a tip.
    Quote Originally Posted by Prester_John
    He is an idiot for having a preference and expressing it? I guess what makes him an idiot in your eyes is that he did something that you personally wouldnt. Boy.. what a transgression THAT is.

    Dude... tell me more of what you would do. I would hate to not follow exactly what you would do, which would therefor make me an idiot.

    We all have preferences. I have always failed to see why one person would criticize another merely because they are acting in a way counter to their own behavior. So what if you would react differently?

    I think the first sentence was meant to give me a compliment. Then the rest was the remaining sentiment. could be worng though.

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    yoda57's right, Rose...

    I don't know where ya got me calling him such....


    wasn't I actually thanking him for expressing preference, and not wasting my time?

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    Dont get out to SD much at all if ever, but PBCF please let us know if YOUR ever in the East/ Boston area k? As for the custy's comment, I agree that he can have his own opnion, as for me I have no particular type that could be described really, No rhyme or reason to why some girls just do it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playboycntrfold
    I think the first sentence was meant to give me a compliment. Then the rest was the remaining sentiment. could be worng though.
    If DSUsb19 meant in a way as to be a compliment to PBCF, rather then a slam against the patron, then its an understandable sentiment, and I extend sincere apologies to DSUsb19.

    If it was a real criticism of the guy, then my reaction to what DSUsb19 wrote still stands.

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    DSU said the dude was an idiot.......He hasn't stated what he meant by that.

    So I'll go by my first post.

    If he meant it as a compliment, I agree.....But I don't see what's wrong with anyone having a preference for what they like. I am glad he was honest instead of putting you off.
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    I'm with Playboy on this one. I prefer to be told the truth. I prefer not to waste my time.

    It also behooves a customer to be politely honest with me too. If you tell me what kind of dancer you are looking for I may just have a friend who is just perfect

    If you like my friend, a couple of bucks tip next time I'm on stage is very nice way for everyone to have a win/win situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by playboycntrfold
    I'm proud to say, I had someone do it right today. I walk over, chit chat a bit, then pop the question. He says: "No, thanks hun I'm more into blondes."

    That was that. No harm done, no time wasted.
    A dancer's physical attributes are the first thing that we see. This was clearly a case where yours didn't meet the customer's preferences, therefore his decision making was easy. When I go to a club and check out the entertainers, at least 2/3 of them will immediately be eliminated from contention as far as buying dances based on that alone.

    Its when I'm dealing with a member of that other 1/3 or less that things become a bit more complicated. I like to scout the club for about 15 minutes first, but sometimes "Aphrodite" comes over three minutes after I arrive. Since, I like most customers have a limited budget, I then have to decide whether to buy dances now (and if so, how many) or continue my comparison shopping. In a club where there are dozens of gals on shift this is particularly agonizing.

    I try to never say "maybe later" unless I really mean it, even going to the point to explain that I just arrived, and that I would like to scout out the competition before making a purchase. Needless to say, a lot of potential dances have gotten away over the years simply because the timing wasn't right.
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    I like the guys who tell me "no thanks", right before I even open my mouth. I waste so much time talking to guys, and they will talk with me acting like they are interested, just to turn me down. I don't care they don't want a dance, I'm there to make money.

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    Sometimes "maybe later" is the truth. When I first go into a new club I like to have a seat, look around, try to figure out how the place works and generally check out all the girls. Then maybe I'll be ready to have a girl join me but never right away unless I'm looking for someone specific. If you approach me before I'm ready, I'll usually say "maybe later." I have often asked a girl to join me who earlier I had turned down. In fact once I became a regular of a girl who I turned down when she first approached me. If you come up behind me or on my blind side and I don't have a chance to even see what you look like before deciding yes or no, I will always say "maybe later" because it's true.
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    So FONDL is it always a good idea to return to the custy and ask again? Or is that return simply based on their body language, speech, and eye contact when you first approached them?

    Ive also agree with PBCF. When I was new though I was always offended a little...like "why dont they want me?" But, now its simply very nice for someone to turn you down w/o taking up all of your time in a nice and short answer w/o being rude. Theres always someone out there who will want a dance with ya.

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    Damn guys, can I have my head back??? It was meant as a compliment to playboy. Everyone has their preferences, as do I. I don't like tp put people down, so why the hell would I be trying to insult people I don't know? I wasn't trying to say the guy was an idiot for having preferences, just that's he's a little on the crazy side for passing her up. Wasn't trying to offend anyone at all. Especially another patron. No offense meant at all. Christ.



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    Sorry, I hardly ever look at the pink bow at the bottom....You'd think I would since it's a pretty pink and all. Nevermind.

    I know you didn't mean it as offensive but I thought you meant that the guy was an idiot for having a preference.

    But I understand what you mean.


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    i am always honest with dancers. if i have no interest, i will tell them I am all set, but thank you for stopping and asking.

    a couple of times, I have said - a little later (not, maybe later), and was surprised to see her go by a couple of times and not stop back by.

    In one case, I know her by name and have had her dance for me and complimented her and she was very good, but reading these posts i can see how - later means never sometimes. egos can be fragile or maybe she was pissed - there was nobody in the club and she came all the way from the back of the club straight up to me maybe expecting me to not turn her down - hope thats not it dawn, but a lot of times when I first get to a club i want to sit down a check things out a bit before "getting to business"..... a few minutes anyway

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    Great reading this- saying NO is always tough I always feel bad- but yea I usuyally say "no thanks, not interested, but thank you." I have that overly empethetic thing and never want to hurt anyones feelings. (I know, I know it's a business.) I actually like to get dances with women who aren't my type. If they are my type- I'd rather date them than get dances! (I think I do need to head down to SD soon though!)

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    Yeah, I posted something similar to this a while ago on SCJ, and alot of guys answered that they often say "maybe later" when 1) they are still shopping and don't want to eliminate you from the list of possibles yet, or 2) they've had some girls respond quite negatively to just plain "no". Still, "maybe later" is extremely annoying.

    So guys, if you think you MIGHT want a dance from a girl later, tell her that specifically..."I'm still looking around but I'll find you when I'm ready for a dance" works great. That lets the girl know she should keep working the room and if she has free time later can stop by to see if you're ready for a dance with her. If you decide you want her, don't hesitate to go get her or send a waitress/floorman for her.

    If you really just don't want a dance with a girl, tell her that. Grow some balls, it doesn't hurt us. If a girl responds negatively, "no thanks, go work the room" may help. Sometimes a negative response is just stripper shit, sometimes it's a genuine reaction from a girl who needs to learn how to deal with rejection. Either way it's not your problem so feel free to tell her to scram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSUsb19
    Damn guys, can I have my head back??? It was meant as a compliment to playboy. Everyone has their preferences, as do I. I don't like tp put people down, so why the hell would I be trying to insult people I don't know? I wasn't trying to say the guy was an idiot for having preferences, just that's he's a little on the crazy side for passing her up. Wasn't trying to offend anyone at all. Especially another patron. No offense meant at all. Christ.



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