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  • Sugar Daddies are okay, but clients wanting extras is not.

    22 48.89%
  • Sugar daddies are not okay, but clients wanting extras is.

    2 4.44%
  • Neither one is okay.

    10 22.22%
  • Both are great - everyone should try to get everything they want!

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    Default Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    Hmmmm...this could turn into a controversial topic....and if so...well....we all know I am an evil diabolical monkey.

    I see these two mentalities as being very similar. A desire for getting as much as possible out of the other person. At this point, I don't see how you could be in favor of one, but then opposed to the other.....but I'm always willing to reconsider.


    EDIT: This is asking for your opinion....for you...how you think it should be...what's right...what's wrong...and why.
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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    I have heard of guys who spend a lot of money on girls without ever having sex. Shopping, dinner, trips, clothes, furniture, cash, etc. In club money and out. No sex. It's EXTREMELY RARE. I reckon I'd happily participate in a relationship like this (wouldn't we all?) but a sugar daddy in the "traditional" sense is out of the question for me. Extras too. Just not within my comfort zone.

    One of my best friends has a relationship with a guy who spends alot of money on her, and she isn't 'giving it up'. I believe when she tells me this because of the relationship she and I have and there is no doubt in my mind she's honest, and I also know the guy. He's offered her $10k/month to be his 'girlfriend' and she doesn't go for it. She's had this guy for a year and I estimate he spends @ $5k/month on her now. The guy makes ridiculous money, is single and doesn't mind spending on what he likes. I also know my friend has waaaaaaaayyy more patience to develop something like this than I do


    Btw I think the poll should read ".....for you" at the end - no one has any business trying to say what's right for anyone but themselves.

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    Good point, Bridge.
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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    I don't believe "extras" is right because you are doing it in the club.You should ALWAYS separate doing things like that from the club.I'm not completely OK with having a sugar daddy,but it is the lesser of the two evils.

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    I am not able to pul off either, but good for the girl who can, and is OK with it. "Milking" $$ from a guy in the club is alright, as long as I don't promise anything or make him think something will happen that won't.
    I am just not a comfort level with people in general to be able to have either a sugar daddy or do extras, and the only time I think girls shouldn't do extras is when they're in a club that doesn't offer them as incentive for guys to spend $$. It makes it harder for other girls to make money then, and I don't feel that's fair, because someone will end up compromising their own set limits just to make the $$.
    But we've all fantasized about the guy who wants to give us everything for nothing in return!

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    I went for yes to sugardaddy, no to extras.

    I do know one girl who has a regular/sugardaddy, I won't disclose too much info about this as I don't know who's reading, but he totally spoils her, gives her lots of expensive things and does not want sex AT ALL! A complete rareity and she knows it and it juicing it to the max. I couldn't believe it. He's been doing that for months, I think almost a year and she always thinks it's gonna end when he next comes to see her and instead he brings her more things! And the best part, he IS regular, and comes to see her *at least* once a week. But she's a very cool girl, tries to be very discreet about the whole affair to avoid jealousy in the workplace.

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    Anything for money, I voted both he he



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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    I see it as a difference in context. Like, would you rather sell a couple customers on long champagne rooms throughout the night (ie, develop relationships with them) or do a bunch of lapdances (except with extras instead of dances). My personal opinion is that I know that sometimes you meet those people that you kind of like and wouldn't mind dating, but you don't really want them in your life. Now, if that person feels the same way about you, then a sugar daddy relationship is the natural next step. If the sugar daddy relationship involves deceit than it's probably not that okay. Extras just don't belong in the strip club.

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    Never did, & never will.

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    I agree with Bridgette

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    What about the guys....Sugar Mamas, yay or nay?

    I know a couple guys who have had them in the past, LOL. Very rare to hear about it though.

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    Sure, I wouldn't mind having a stripper provide for me (financially, that is )



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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    Quote Originally Posted by sol_de_pr2
    Sure, I wouldn't mind having a stripper provide for me (financially, that is )
    No, not a stripper...LOL. Just a regular lonely lady.

    Rose, i'm sure you can. Even a married couple, lets throw that in there too. hahaha

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    I had a regular "sugar daddy" for almost 2 years. he would come in every Wed. and spend alot of money on me. I never had sex with him. I did do a couple of private parties for him without anything happening, all I did was dance nude. The club i worked in was topless only. I did have a bouncer there just to be safe.

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    I almost had a sugar couple once... but it was weird so I backed out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyanka
    What about the guys....Sugar Mamas, yay or nay?

    I know a couple guys who have had them in the past, LOL. Very rare to hear about it though.
    Nay for me.I pay my own way. But as far as hearing about it you won't.Mainly because in our society it is frowned upon.The male ego isn't programmed for this in most cases and those that have this arrangement might be sneered at.

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    i voted ok for sugar daddies but no for extras. i think that by offering extras inside the club, you are ultimately bringing it down for yourself as well as the other girls because guys will start associating the club with extras and begin to expect them. this leads to the girls being forced to either up mileage, find another club, or get used to lower income. as for a sugar daddie, it's just like all other relationships in that there is a give and take factor, it's just that it is a little different with this. however, a sugar daddie, IMHO, is someone who is willing to spend large sums of money on you on things outside the club in exchange for a "girlfriend" type relationship. because it is an actual relationship as opposed to a series of brief exchanges with multiple customers in the back of a darkened corner, it keeps mileage expectations of patron's low, and keeps girls from having to adjust to higher demands.

    then again...what do i know...i haven't even started dancing yet...

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    Okay, now I have to throw this in...and I mean no disrespect...I'm playing Devil's Advocate, so you should all be used to this by now.

    Why isn't this a little hypocricital? I keep seeing that there is a "slight" difference. Mind you, I did not say "customers EXPECTING extras"....I said "customers WANTING extras"

    The way I'm seeing this is in one situation you have a dancer who wants more money and is willing to do something outside of her usual realm of dancing in order to get the money. In the other situation you have a customer who is willing to pay the extra money in order to get something "extra"...outside the usual realm of dancing. When you break it down like that, it seems to apply to both situations.

    I do see the subtle differences...but they are indeed subtle when it comes to the "morality" of dancing.

    Oh...and before Bridgette jumps on this one - what if giving the extras was actually legal? Make that assumption. This is not a question of legality. We already know the answer to that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MojoJojo
    Why isn't this a little hypocricital? I keep seeing that there is a "slight" difference. Mind you, I did not say "customers EXPECTING extras"....I said "customers WANTING extras"
    i think it's a given that many customers will always WANT extras regardless of whether or not they are offered. if a guy sees a hot woman almost/completely naked and she is dancing suggestively in front of him, of course he will get excited and more often that not want to sleep with her, that's the fantasy isn't it? see hot girl, hot girl turns you on, want to sleep with hot girl...the difference is in the customers...there are the ones who know this won't happen so they are happy to pay for what they are expected to(LD and company) and leave it at that. but then there are the others who think that because they want it, they should be able to get it, those are the ones who constantly ask for the extras. for the girls: think about how many times a night guys ask how much it will take to get u to leave w/ them, etc. i think that no matter what the club, guys will always want extras, but if they are not offered then it stays as just that, WANT, not EXPECT. as for clubs that are known to offer extras, can you not say that many guys go into them EXPECTING to get extras...look at all the posts on aspd. some clubs have become so notorious for extras that they're no longer SCs, but simply brothels with girls who dance. if the girls didn't offer extras, then someone getting an extra would be something out of the ordinary, not just "business as usual." in turn, if they weren't the norm then they wouldn't be expected.

    sorry if that was kinda long

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    At first I WAS CONFUSED...but let me see if I get it -

    Sugar daddies= regulars, in club, no sex and extras are in-club sex...right?

    what about customers that become OUT OF CLUB sex partners with "perks" - does that fit in anywhere? My ex gf had a couple like that (before me, so she said) that hired her for videos, and then "forgot the camera" but rememberd the cash. After that, I always wore a raincoat when we made weather!

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    Quote Originally Posted by BrunetteBombshell
    i voted ok for sugar daddies but no for extras. i think that by offering extras inside the club, you are ultimately bringing it down for yourself as well as the other girls because guys will start associating the club with extras and begin to expect them. this leads to the girls being forced to either up mileage, find another club, or get used to lower income. as for a sugar daddie, it's just like all other relationships in that there is a give and take factor, it's just that it is a little different with this. however, a sugar daddie, IMHO, is someone who is willing to spend large sums of money on you on things outside the club in exchange for a "girlfriend" type relationship. because it is an actual relationship as opposed to a series of brief exchanges with multiple customers in the back of a darkened corner, it keeps mileage expectations of patron's low, and keeps girls from having to adjust to higher demands.

    then again...what do i know...i haven't even started dancing yet...
    BBS, I have to agree with you. Back in the day when I was a newbie, I, admitedly, was a mileage hound. But over time, Ive learned to just enjoy hanging out with the dancers at the club with minimal interaction other than just conversation. To me, the "extras" as mentioned are most enjoyable outside the club. Keeping those activities OTC (outside the club) establishes a definite line and doesnt create any issues between my gal and the other dancers.

    I only consider myself a "semi" sugardaddy. To fully support her would require about a third of my income. Im not prepared to do that but if I can slip in at 10% of my income life is good

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    Quote Originally Posted by discretedancer
    At first I WAS CONFUSED...but let me see if I get it -

    Sugar daddies= regulars, in club, no sex and extras are in-club sex...right?

    what about customers that become OUT OF CLUB sex partners with "perks" - does that fit in anywhere? My ex gf had a couple like that (before me, so she said) that hired her for videos, and then "forgot the camera" but rememberd the cash. After that, I always wore a raincoat when we made weather!
    DD, to me a sugar daddy is OTC, usually with sex as part of the deal. If inside the club, hes just a big spending regular. Just my 2 cents...maybe Im wrong.

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy vs Extras

    I also voted yes to sugar daddies but no to extras... but maybe we're talking about two different things....

    If you want to have an affair with an older rich guy who gives you presents and stuff, then go for it.... some girls think of it as borderline prostitution, but I dont' have a prob with it. Admittedly, I DO have a prob with married men, but that's just me.

    As for extras at the club OR dating guys from a club, then no... you run into all sorts of legal hassles, PLUS it makes the rest of us look like hookers, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by susan
    I also voted yes to sugar daddies but no to extras... but maybe we're talking about two different things....

    If you want to have an affair with an older rich guy who gives you presents and stuff, then go for it.... some girls think of it as borderline prostitution, but I dont' have a prob with it. Admittedly, I DO have a prob with married men, but that's just me.

    As for extras at the club OR dating guys from a club, then no... you run into all sorts of legal hassles, PLUS it makes the rest of us look like hookers, too.
    I was about to somethine similiar as I too voted Sugar Daddies OK and extras within a club no for very similiar reasons. Therefore, I might as well quote you since you said exactly what I was going to say (or thereabouts).

    I don't have a problem with the married men scenario tho' if it is already okay with the wife and the "girlfriend" knows the boundaries and limitations of the relationship (same with the husband). No secrets from any of the parties involved as the wife is involved even if she isn't directly.

    I do have a problem with the married men scenario if the wife isn't okay with it (or most likely doesn't know about it).

    It's isn't so much the legal issues... it is just the drama/crap that comes along with having extras in the club and dating customers (read: customers not patrons) for yourself..... as well as making it harder for other dancers since it will become known that it is possible to date the dancers at a particular club (or find more than just a dance at that club).


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