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    "We now have now 19 governors who have established faith-based offices right there in their own governor's offices. That wasn't true five or six or seven years ago. One hundred-eighty mayors have done the same thing," said Joseph Loconte, an expert in faith-based and church-state issues at the Heritage Foundation

    One Florida prison fellowship gained accesss to federal funds two years ago when the president side-stepped Congress with executive orders freeing up federal funds and giving groups the right to discriminate in hiring based on religious faith. Other groups have also benefitted from the order.

    According to John Samples, director of the Cato Institute's Center for Representative Government : Republicans complained bitterly when President Clinton used executive orders to circumvent Congress. They've said nothing about Bush's faith-based executive orders,which is a real contradiction.

    "If you want limited government, if you want responsible government, the president running around making all kinds of policies on his own account is not really consistent with that idea."


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    OMG! I can't believe that we are going backwards on civil rights in such a dramatic way. My dad told me that in the early 1960's (and anytime before that) people had to put their race and religion on their resumes.
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    Great, I just look forward to placing my religious affilliation, on my resume and then signing a loyalty oath along with it......

    Next they'll ressurect the House Comittee on Un American Activities along with a new Hollywood Blacklist.

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    I've had to put my race and ethniticity on certain applications in the 1990s and 2000s. Affirmative action.

    Federal funds - HUD, as an example - have been funneled to such things as Lutheran Family Services, Catholic Charities, and faith-based shelters for the last couple decades, through the Bush and Clinton years.

    Of course it's hypocritical for those who protested Clinton circumventing Congress to remain silent about it with Bush. It's also hypocritical for those who remained silent when Clinton did it to now protest when Bush does it.

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    In my opinion, it is stupid for any faith-based organization to accept government money. No matter what the good intentions of the government are today, eventually the government will attempt to dictate what they can and can't do. Anyone who doubts this needs to look at the way the government has taken over the universities in this country through the student loan program. Remember, he who has the gold makes the rules. If you don't want to be subject to the governments ever-changing rules, then don't take their gold.
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