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    Chris Rock ("no sex in champagne") has also defined and mined "the friend zone" for laughs. Ever been there with a dancer? Any interesting twists?

    The following summary was lifted from some other guy's website:

    There are guys out there that don't even know they're in the Friend Zone with a girl. Here are some examples that should help clue you in. What's funny is that the majority of you out there should be able to identify with some examples.
    The girl says: "You're so nice", "It's so easy to talk to you", "Can you help me with my homework?", "I feel like we can talk about anything", "It's so fun being with you". Those are some of the lines many of us guys have heard.

    There are other things that should clue you in. You've spent quite a bit of money on her and never had any sexual contact with her. No, cuddling and cuddling don't count. You've probably had prolonged phone/email/IM conversations with her. She's undressed in front of you and thought nothing of it. She had put on make-up on IN FRONT of you instead of putting on make-up FOR you. Those are some of the signs that you guys are in the dreaded Friend Zone.


    Guys, do you ever wonder why girls seem to sleep with assholes but not with you, a nice guy? It's pretty easy if you think about it. First off, a real man is a bit of an asshole. Since the asshole basically acts like a real man, girls are attracted to him and he gets the ass.

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    Not all real men are assholes, but all friend zone guys sure are incredible pussies.

    For the last time, Kat's advice to friend zone dudes:

    JUST FUCKING STICK IT IN AND SEAL THE DEAL!!!!

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    Thankfully I can say today that I have never been in any lady's friend zone. Yet still, I have always been somwhat of a nice guy on the outside with a fucking marathon runner inside that only manifests itself when appropriate.

    I guess I lie somewhere between nice guy and ahole. If you were to ask Ms. L she would quickly tell you there used to be a nice guy under my skin but that person is long gone. She has it all wrong. He's there. He's just much smarter than the average joe nowadays.

    Ms. J and I are teetering on the friend zone but there's just waay too much sexual energy going on for that to happen. Not to mention the fact that friends don't let friends .

    JUST FUCKING STICK IT IN AND SEAL THE DEAL!!!!
    You won't have to ask twice.

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    I'm in a number of ladies' friend zones. At various gatherings, I'm viewed as "safe."

    Perhaps the "safe" behavior rubs off. Current fave says many of the things Sporty alludes to, and I've been an emotional support for her, but she's also sexually affectionate in her attentions, both paid and gratuitous. Perhaps if the zone is constant over human behavior (unlikely), I have one foot in, one foot out, of the zone.

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    Gentlemen - that whole "nice guys finish last thing" or "women aren't interested in nice guys" is completely untrue. It's just an excuse for losers. Go ahead and be nice without fear of reprisal.
    I have taught that the sky in all its zones is mortal and its substance was formed by a process of birth

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    Pivot baby! Pivot!

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    But something tells me I'll never take the shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    JUST FUCKING STICK IT IN AND SEAL THE DEAL!!!!
    LOL Kat...you can only do that if she not only mouths the words "Yes" but also signs a legal permission slip. Ive been hovering over Miss D's junk in the trunk for months but as long as "no" is the word of the day Im pretty much toast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR
    Ive been hovering over Miss D's junk in the trunk for months but as long as "no" is the word of the day Im pretty much toast.
    FBR, you're in what I call the Type O Friend Zone, and I think it's a great place to be.

    Example: The dancer has a BF, but he doesn't always get her wet. She's a submissive freak, but he won't even pull her hair cuz he doesn't want to hurt her. She thinks he'd break up with her if he knew what she really liked.

    She doesn't want to have sex with anyone else, but she's thought about getting freaky with a fun regular who seems to care about her. She's confided to him about what she really likes, and he's cool with it. So one day they agree that "we'd just do oral and play with toys."

    The TOFZ works because "we never had sex" and she still has all the friendship advantages.
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    Not all real men are assholes, but all friend zone guys sure are incredible pussies.
    This is as true as the Laws of Thermodynamics.

    Gentlemen - that whole "nice guys finish last thing" or "women aren't interested in nice guys" is completely untrue. It's just an excuse for losers. Go ahead and be nice without fear of reprisal.
    And this is as demonstrably fallacious as cold fusion in a beaker.
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    Pardon? I know plenty of people who are very nice who have done quite well. I know very desirable ladies who have latched on to very nice guys. I know very marketable guys who have settled down with very nice ladies.

    While I may have one foot in the Friend Zone in clubs (and I don't care whether anybody considers me a pussy there or not), I am solidly in the Friend Zone in other arenas. People in those arenas don't consider me a pussy.

    Localized experience does not make for universal constant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    Not all real men are assholes, but all friend zone guys sure are incredible pussies.
    This is true...I am an incredible pussy

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2
    She's undressed in front of you and thought nothing of it.
    i can't even relate. although, i wonder how she would react. if the guy freed willy and thought nothing of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2
    You've spent quite a bit of money on her and never had any sexual contact with her.
    i can't relate here, either. you know, that sort of reminds me of an old classic richard pryor bit. where this guy becomes pretty angry with his date due to the fact that he just spent $200 (1975 dollars) on their date and she just gives him a goodnight kiss.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    Not all real men are assholes, but all friend zone guys sure are incredible pussies.
    it probably seems that way because friend zone guys spend way too much time trying to be a sensitive "nice guy" and not enough time making it clear that he has a penis or that he isn't one of her girlfriends painting her fingernails at a slumber party. if he allows that to happen........ AUTOMATIC FRIEND ZONE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    For the last time, Kat's advice to friend zone dudes:

    JUST FUCKING STICK IT IN AND SEAL THE DEAL!!!!
    exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2

    The TOFZ works because "we never had sex" and she still has all the friendship advantages.
    Sporty, thats exactly where Miss D's head is at. I tend to take the narrower view that if we're exposing our genitalia and engaging in mutual fondling and oral stimulation, its sex But thats just me...Im old fashioned.

    I do admire Miss D's ability to rationalize though. Heres an example. I can tell by the way she talks she is very close to her parents. Miss D was quite the problem child during her teen years and I suppose the fact that she is doing something with her life now (shes about a year away from her doctorate...for real), her parents are thrilled and not a little relieved that their daughter is not some strung out junkie hooker. Miss D is especially close to her mom and they do all sorts of girl stuff together. Anyway, they were shopping the other day and the mom needed to use Miss D's cell phone. Mom was fumbling around with it and saw my name on the caller ID a bunch of times. "Who is *insert FBR's name*?" the mom asked. "Isn't he that nice man who bought you the laptop for Christmas?". "Oh Mom" she replied in her most innocent daughter voice "He's just a friend. We're not doing anything".

    Indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR
    Miss D is especially close to her mom and they do all sorts of girl stuff together. Anyway, they were shopping the other day and the mom needed to use Miss D's cell phone. Mom was fumbling around with it and saw my name on the caller ID a bunch of times. "Who is *insert FBR's name*?" the mom asked. "Isn't he that nice man who bought you the laptop for Christmas?". "Oh Mom" she replied in her most innocent daughter voice "He's just a friend. We're not doing anything".

    Indeed

    FBR
    That is the quintessential Type O Friend Zone story.

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    Hey, I'm a nice guy. I'm actually an asshole in training. I've actually had people come up to me and say that I'm too nice and need to be an asshole sometimes.

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    Its important to make sure she knows where you stand from the very beginning. Be nice, be a gentleman, but treat her like she's a woman. If you treat a woman like a woman, she'll feel like one....if you treat her in a platonic manner, then you'll fall into that zone. Show your interest in subtle ways at first, and look for her reaction. A woman will let you know how far she wants to go, pick up on her cues...

    When you are in the friend zone, its possible to get out. You have to start very subtly, the way you look at her.....when you hug her hold her a little longer, when you touch her be a little more gentle. Make her see you as a man....Feelings eventually develop between friends, the problem is simply the timing of those feelings and their intensity, synchronizing them is the key......its pretty difficult but possible.

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    Ljbf!!!!
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    Too much effort for me doc. I am not going to "try" to treat them like anything I don't feel like; too much effort to manipulate and fake and go through a lot of BS.

    Does that make me an asshole? Maybe. Or maybe not. Honestly, most women I meet bore the hell out of me. Oh I might think she is hot and definitely fuckable, but why lie to myself? If I am bored I am bored. I am not going to bother with trying to pretend to be interested in her if I am not (though I might, given enough drinks, show my interest in her bod).

    Occassionally I meet women that I genuinely like and click with. There is no reason to try to be anything then. But just be honest with yourself when you meet a woman. Do you click with her, or is she just a hot piece of ass. There is nothing wrong with knowing you don't click, she is just a hot piece of ass.

    Somewhere along the way we got told we are suppose to like everyone, we are suppose to suck up to women, blah blah. Fuck that. The whole trying to be a nice guy thing, mostly a bunch of BS mommies teach their little boys. But once you leave the nest you find that's only what women want for their little boys, not from the men in their life. I don't think you should go out of your way to be an asshole, but don't go out of your way to be a nice guy either, or treat her like a woman or anything that is basically faking just cause you want to score some.

    Now if you click with her, lucky you! Then definitely, let her know you click. If she clicks too it will just work. If she doesn't, then accept it and move on.

    Most nice guys are really just pricks like the rest of us, but they use being nice to try and manipulate women into liking them. It's weak and lame.

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    You shouldn't go out of your way to be nice....fakeness, kissing ass, patronizing, are turn offs and make a man appear weak to wome.... But just having manners, common courtesy, a bit of chivalry....treating her like she's a woman, works....

    Women like men who are nice, but the problem with what is known as the "nice guy" is that they tend to be rather one dimensional and boring. A woman wants a man who is interesting, who she can learn from, grow with. When someone puts everything on the table right away, and caters to her every whim, whats left for the future?

    Plus, whether we want to accept it or not, traditional gender roles are not out of style, a woman looks for a man who can make her feel like a woman, who shows strength, the ability to succeed, be a caretaker.....many "nice guys" will act asexual, and this is their biggest mistake.....

    I guess the difference is between being a nice person, and trying to fit the category of "nice guy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2
    She had put on make-up on IN FRONT of you instead of putting on make-up FOR you. Those are some of the signs that you guys are in the dreaded Friend Zone.
    Unless, of course, you're leaving your five-star hotel room for the first time in three days and you've already gotten her off in ways she's never experienced before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolina
    Unless, of course, you're leaving your five-star hotel room for the first time in three days and you've already gotten her off in ways she's never experienced before.
    Yeah, well, lucky you. It's more like two stars and three hours for me.

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